[Air-l] Re: Air-l digest, Vol 1 #537 - 1 msg

Barry Wellman wellman at chass.utoronto.ca
Sun Nov 3 09:37:47 PST 2002


Bram,
Interesting idea, but how do we solve the free rider problem?

Despite some assertions on this list to the contrary, it takes Work to put
papers online or on a CD. And in a dozen ways, it is a PITA: different
formats, authors want to do edits, etc. Even if everyone is well-behaved,
it is still Work, and even if it is done by volunteers, it still costs
money to do.

Someone has to do it, and someone has to pay for it.

I have been astonished at the contentions of some list posters that they
have a Right to these papers even though they haven't paid their club
membership -- joining AoIR.

AoIR's dues are now extremely low compared to other professional
societies, and even lower for students and those in non-OECD countries. As
Steve Jones noted at the recent Maastricht general meeting, just to keep
the existing level of activity going, they may have to be raised. To add
on to the Work and the expense without contributing dues to the clube --
$25 for students -- seems to be unwarrented, and indeed a bit like asking
to get something for nothing.

That's my .02,  Barry
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> Date: Sat, 2 Nov 2002 13:34:39 -0500
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> From: Bram Dov Abramson <bda at bazu.org>
> Subject: [Air-l] Re: Conference papers online
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> zaphiri at soi.city.ac.uk:
> >I understand that it might not be possible to put this years'
> >proceedings online for free (for whatever copyright etc complications)..
> >but i think it is an issue to consider and make mandotary in the future ?
>
> jhuns at vt.edu:
> >but free and open
> >distribution must be the decision of the individual not an obligation
> >put on them because they participate in an  organization or attend a
> >conference.
>
> I don't think this is an overly difficult problem to solve.  For the
> AoIR Toronto conference, could the registration form include a
> checkbox?  It could look something like this:
>
> Following the conference, please make my paper available to:
>
> _ any visitor to the conference Web site
>
> _ any registered AoIR member visiting the conference Web site
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> _ noone
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> cheers
> Bram
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