[Air-l] Trolling

jespert jespert at itu.dk
Sun May 23 07:38:23 PDT 2004

Dear All,

I have made a little article (2 pages) about the trolling of the mailing 
list 'sociocybernetics' in our online newsletter (Luhmann On-Line The 
Official Newsletter for Jottings on Luhmann Discussion Group Vol. 2, No. 
1, Spring 2004 Published by Michael G. Terpstra, Ph.D., Sociocyberforum 
Associates) please look at: 
It is called: ‘Reflections on the mailing list sociocybernetics – Mail 
nr. 871: Luh-mann, Luh-mann, Ueb-er-al-al-le in-der-So-zi-ol-o-gie’ and 
describes what happened to that mailing list when it was trolled, it is 
a community much like this list – hope you will enjoy it.

Best Regards
Jesper Tække

Lois Ann Scheidt wrote:

>I have been thinking, of late, that it is interesting that this list has
>some of its most detailed and insightful discussions on subjects prompted
>by trolling or via discussions that appear to degenerate to trolling over
>time.  (See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll and
>http://www.altairiv.demon.co.uk/afaq/posts/trollfaq.html for discussion of
>the behavior.)  As such I have been thinking about the following
>*  Do such posts benefit an academic forum, particularly in the early
>stages of the discussion?  
>*  What are the lines, fuzzy though they may be, between differing
>opinions and trolling?  Are we as educators more tolerant of trolling
>behaviors, be they initially overt or arrived at late in the conversation,
>because of our teaching mindset?
>*  At what point does a well-meaning discussion degenerate into the overt
>baiting common in trolling exchanges?  Is there a clear catalyst to this
>de-evolution?  How does "time," "space," and "culture" impact on this
>* Is a trolling post always posted by a troller, or are the phenomena
>innately separate entities?
>*  Can the distinctions, broached in the thought questions above, be
>viewed or is the motivation, for such exchanges, so individual that
>text-only discussion loses the nuanced differences?  Of course there are
>articles that broach this subject.  For a general discussion of cues and
>CMC see Walther & Parks (2002).   And of course Donath (1999) discusses
>identity and deception in online forums.  Articles related to trolling
>include:  Herring, Job-Sluder, Scheckler, & Barab (2002) discuss overt
>trolling in a feminist forum.
>Some of these and other related questions have been posed on the list
>during previous trolling interactions and have bubbled to the surface
>during the last couple of weeks.
>Interesting webpages that discuss the phenomena:  
>http://www.urban75.com/Mag/troll.html  The Subtle Art of Trolling
>Reference List
>Donath, J. (1999). Identity and deception in the virtual community. In
>M.A.Smith & P. Kollock (Eds.), Communities in Cyberspace (pp. 29-59).
>London: Routledge.
>Herring, S. C., Job-Sluder, K., Scheckler, R., & Barab, S. (2002).
>Searching for safety online:  Managing "Trolling" in a feminist forum. The
>Information Society, 18, 371-383.  Available:
>Walther, J. B. & Parks, M. R. (2002). Cues filtered out, cues filtered in:
>Computer-mediated communication and relationships. In M. L. Knapp & J. A.
>Daly (Eds.), Handbook of Interpersonal Communication (3rd ed., pp.
>529-563). Thousand Oaks CA: Sage Publications.
>Lois Ann Scheidt MPA MIS SPHR CCP
>Doctoral Student
>School of Library and Information Science
>Indiana University
>Bloomington IN USA
>Webpage:  http://www.loisscheidt.com
>Blog:  http://www.professional-lurker.com
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