[Air-l] AoIR conference venues

[Dan L Burk]

Sorry.  My colleague Orin Gross tells me that DHS has invoked a national
security exception to fingerprint Canadian and Mexican visitors as well. 
DLB

On 5 Oct 2004, Shoshana Magnet wrote:
>  Maybe Canadian and Mexican travellers are not fingerprinted due to the 
> provisions of NAFTA, but I can assure you this process does occur.
> 
> I was recently travelling to the US with two Canadians, both of whom had
to 
> be fingerprinted, while I (on my US passport) did not.  This seems to me
to 
> be a cause for concern when choosing an AOIR conference venue.
> 
> Shoshana Magnet
> PhD Candidate, Institute of Communication Research
> University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Dan L Burk" <burkx006 at umn.edu>
> To: <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>; <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Air-l] AoIR conference venues
> 
> 
> > While I am certainly not a fan of the current U.S. alien identification
> > procedures, some of this discussion is becoming a bit hysterical.
> >
> > Mexican and Canadian travellers are not fingerprinted due to provisions
of
> > NAFTA.  I assure you that if the Department of Homeland Security could
> > fingerprint Mexican and Canadian travellers without re-negotiating the
> > treaty, it would.
> >
> > (For that matter, if DHS could fingerprint domestic travellers without
a
> > popular uprising, it undoubtedly would.  It is quietly working toward
that
> > end, beginning with a "trusted traveller" program to induce "voluntary"
> > biometric recordation.)
> >
> > I would also be perfectly happy to see the conference held outside the 
> > U.S.
> > again.  Montreal and Vancouver come to mind.  Budapest is nice, too.
> >
> > Dan L. Burk
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> > On 5 Oct 2004, peter jakubowicz wrote:
> >> I fully concur with Dr. Wu. Why is it that every
> >> person on the planet (except Canadians and Mexicans
> >> who are not crooks) has to be fingerprinted by the
> >> FBI? Is it because Canadians and Mexicans are more
> >> honest? Or, is it because these two countries border
> >> the U.S. of A. and are no threat whatsoever? In light
> >> of this, I think the AoIR conference should be held
> >> anywhere but the US.
> >>
> >> Peter Jakubowicz
> >> The Chinese University of Hong Kong
> >>
> >> --- meiwu at umac.mo wrote:
> >>
> >> > The newest policy I've heard of is that except for
> >> > Canadian
> >> > and Mexican passport holders, any foreigner with a
> >> > visiting visa
> >> > has to be taken finger prints at the US border. I
> >> > don't know
> >> > when exactly this policy will be implemented, but
> >> > I've learned
> >> > that the Japanese government is complaining.
> >> > WM
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > jeremy hunsinger <jhuns at vt.edu>
> >> > Sent by: air-l-aoir.org-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
> >> > 05/10/2004 11:34 AM
> >> > Please respond to
> >> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > To
> >> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> >> > cc
> >> >
> >> > Subject
> >> > Re: [Air-l] AoIR conference venues
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > which visa policy is this?
> >> > On Oct 4, 2004, at 9:31 PM, meiwu at umac.mo wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > I've sided with Philipp. I'd also like to bring to
> >> > your attention
> >> > > the new visa entry policy of the US government.
> >> > It'll make
> >> > > any conferences held in the US unattractive to
> >> > international
> >> > > participants.
> >> > >
> >> > > Wu Mei
> >> > > University of Macau
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> >> > >
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Dan L. Burk
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University of Minnesota Law School
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