[Air-l] AoIR conference venues

[Shoshana Magnet]

 Maybe Canadian and Mexican travellers are not fingerprinted due to the 
provisions of NAFTA, but I can assure you this process does occur.

I was recently travelling to the US with two Canadians, both of whom had to 
be fingerprinted, while I (on my US passport) did not.  This seems to me to 
be a cause for concern when choosing an AOIR conference venue.

Shoshana Magnet
PhD Candidate, Institute of Communication Research
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Dan L Burk" <burkx006 at umn.edu>
To: <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>; <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2004 9:04 AM
Subject: Re: [Air-l] AoIR conference venues


> While I am certainly not a fan of the current U.S. alien identification
> procedures, some of this discussion is becoming a bit hysterical.
>
> Mexican and Canadian travellers are not fingerprinted due to provisions of
> NAFTA.  I assure you that if the Department of Homeland Security could
> fingerprint Mexican and Canadian travellers without re-negotiating the
> treaty, it would.
>
> (For that matter, if DHS could fingerprint domestic travellers without a
> popular uprising, it undoubtedly would.  It is quietly working toward that
> end, beginning with a "trusted traveller" program to induce "voluntary"
> biometric recordation.)
>
> I would also be perfectly happy to see the conference held outside the 
> U.S.
> again.  Montreal and Vancouver come to mind.  Budapest is nice, too.
>
> Dan L. Burk
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> On 5 Oct 2004, peter jakubowicz wrote:
>> I fully concur with Dr. Wu. Why is it that every
>> person on the planet (except Canadians and Mexicans
>> who are not crooks) has to be fingerprinted by the
>> FBI? Is it because Canadians and Mexicans are more
>> honest? Or, is it because these two countries border
>> the U.S. of A. and are no threat whatsoever? In light
>> of this, I think the AoIR conference should be held
>> anywhere but the US.
>>
>> Peter Jakubowicz
>> The Chinese University of Hong Kong
>>
>> --- meiwu at umac.mo wrote:
>>
>> > The newest policy I've heard of is that except for
>> > Canadian
>> > and Mexican passport holders, any foreigner with a
>> > visiting visa
>> > has to be taken finger prints at the US border. I
>> > don't know
>> > when exactly this policy will be implemented, but
>> > I've learned
>> > that the Japanese government is complaining.
>> > WM
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > jeremy hunsinger <jhuns at vt.edu>
>> > Sent by: air-l-aoir.org-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
>> > 05/10/2004 11:34 AM
>> > Please respond to
>> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>> >
>> >
>> > To
>> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>> > cc
>> >
>> > Subject
>> > Re: [Air-l] AoIR conference venues
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > which visa policy is this?
>> > On Oct 4, 2004, at 9:31 PM, meiwu at umac.mo wrote:
>> >
>> > > I've sided with Philipp. I'd also like to bring to
>> > your attention
>> > > the new visa entry policy of the US government.
>> > It'll make
>> > > any conferences held in the US unattractive to
>> > international
>> > > participants.
>> > >
>> > > Wu Mei
>> > > University of Macau
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