[Air-l] AoIR conference venues

[Maria Bakardjieva]

I am surprised to see Jeremy putting Sao Paolo and Budapest in the same
segment of the same timeline. I am not sure what exactly he has in mind, but
as far as cost of access is concerned, Budapest may be more accessible than
Brighton for many Europeans (incl. East, Central, South) and people form the
Middle East and Israel). As for the NAmericans - take the most affordable
flight to a major European airport and then hop on the train. Malev, the
Hungarian airline is also reputable and affordable.

I would imagine also that meals and lodging may be more reasonably priced in
Budapest than elsewhere. The potential for finding new sponsors should not
be underestimated.

Anybody there NOT attracted to Budapest?
Certainly, adopting Hungarian as the working language is out of the
question.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jeremy hunsinger" <jhuns at vt.edu>
To: <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 6:07 AM
Subject: Re: [Air-l] AoIR conference venues


> actually, this is one of the executives most talked about issue of
> late:)  It is my understanding that everyone really wants to have more
> international conferences.  it is actually very hard to ensure one
> thing, that the conference will not lose money. The conferences are
> self-funded, and one major loss could ruin us, so that means that in my
> opinion we have to have high attendance, somewhat high fees, and have
> to be very real about money(exchange rates affect percentage profit or
> loss).
>
> also, in my opinion, have a responsibility to our paid members, which
> sustain the organization, and the majority of those are in North
> America and Europe.  To me, this means that we have to have the
> majority of our conferences where they have easy access.  as global
> membership rises, this changes.
>
> as for language, I believe we voted on this two years ago.  the
> conference will be in English, primarily because we don't have
> translation capability because it costs too much, and secondarily
> because when we did try to do it, it did not work well at all.
>
> I'm sure that once aoir is on firm financial footing, locations such as
> Cairo, Budapest, or Sao Paolo, will be attempted, our theoretical
> timeline for this is about 5 years out,
>
> remember of course that aoir is still a smallish organization, with
> about 400-500 members, so it takes time for the organization to build
> and grow, especially in terms of fiscal capacity.
>
>
> On Oct 4, 2004, at 5:33 AM, Philipp Budka wrote:
>
> > Dear AoIR list members,
> >
> > I am participating on the list for about three years. In this period
> > the
> > AoIR conference took place in the Netherlands (2002), in Canada
> > (2003), in
> > England (2004) and will take place in the US (2005). These venues have
> > at
> > least two things in common: they are all countries of the north, and,
> > apart
> > from Holland, they are all English speaking countries.
> > I can imagine that it is very hard to find a conference venue with the
> > proper infrastructure, academic and financial background, etc. But
> > wouldn't
> > it be real international to look at Asia, Southeast Europe or Latin
> > America
> > for conference venues. I would love to attend an AoIR conference in Sao
> > Paulo, Cairo or Budapest. I am sure this would send real international
> > signals to the global internet interested community.
> > Greetings from Vienna,
> >
> > Philipp
> >
> > -- 
> > Philipp Budka
> > philbu at gmx.net
> > Rustengasse 5/10
> > A-1150 Wien, Austria
> > http://www.philbu.net
> > http://www.lateinamerika-studien.at
> > --
> >
> > GMX ProMail mit bestem Virenschutz http://www.gmx.net/de/go/mail
> > +++ Empfehlung der Redaktion +++ Internet Professionell 10/04 +++
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Air-l-aoir.org mailing list
> > Air-l-aoir.org at listserv.aoir.org
> > http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
> >
> >
> Jeremy Hunsinger
> Center for Digital Discourse and Culture
> () ascii ribbon campaign - against html mail
> /\ - against microsoft attachments
>
> _______________________________________________
> Air-l-aoir.org mailing list
> Air-l-aoir.org at listserv.aoir.org
> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>