[Air-l] interesting article about net censorship in china

[jeremy hunsinger]

but... this has been covered in the news too...  at least the wgig for 
wsis has been covered.  it is interesting.  but it is unclear what you 
mean by 'running the internet'.  if you mean icann, which is the only 
bit that really is tied to the u.s. government, though tenuously... I 
hardly think that human readable domain names, which is pretty much all 
they do, is 'running the internet'....  even if, for instance one 
claims that icann is running the internet, under the ausipices of the 
u.s. commerce, you would still be hard pressed to say it is a u.s. 
organization, or non-representative of international interests(granted 
though, only certain types of interests are represented well)  if you 
mean ietf, iab, irtf, isoc, w3c... well those are all open 
organizations with solid international credentials.

now do any of those organizations really run the internet?  or govern 
it?  each does in some way, to some extent, but none does it entirely, 
nor do the whole of them govern it entirely.  most of the internet is 
governed by the endpoints, and those that profit from them,  which is 
why censorship is important, because it shows precisely that fact,  
that countries can govern the internet as well.



On Apr 20, 2005, at 5:18 AM, Danny Butt wrote:

> I think the main thing is that it's a much more "interesting" Internet
> geopolitics story for a U.S. business magazine (and research mailing 
> list ;)
> than e.g. the discussions in Geneva right now on how the rest of the 
> world
> might get some decent representation in running the Internet.
>
> http://www.internetgovernance.org/
> http://www.wgig.org/
>
> Cheers,
>
> Danny
>
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> On 4/20/05 10:19 AM, "jeremy hunsinger" <jhuns at vt.edu> wrote:
>
>> umm, if you really want to know.  that study entailed last week
>> congressional testimony, which was probably the origin of the article.
>> it also had a press release or two.  opennet is utoronto, harvard, and
>> cambridge more or less.  if you want specific info, I can provide
>> contacts as appropriate.
>> On Apr 19, 2005, at 7:10 PM, Ellis Godard wrote:
>>
>>> Since that conclusion should surprise no one, what else did the study
>>> find? Surely it involved more than observing and stating the obvious.
>>>
>>> -eg
>>>
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>>> <http://www.redherring.com/Article.aspx?
>>> a=11815&hed=Net%20Censors%20Active%20in%20China>
>>> "Internet Filtering in China in 2004-2005: A Country Study" is a 
>>> result
>>>
>>> of the OpenNet Initiative (ONI). Funded by George Soros' Open Society
>>> Institute, ONI is a collaboration of researchers at Harvard 
>>> University,
>>>
>>> the University of Cambridge, and the University of Toronto working on
>>> issues of Internet censorship and surveillance. The organization's
>>> conclusion: in China, web users are both closely watched and often
>>> prevented from seeing content of a political, religious, or sexual
>>> nature.
>>>
>>> Edward Lee Lamoureux, Ph. D.
>>> Director, Multimedia Program and New Media Center
>>> Associate Professor, Speech Communication
>>> 1501 W. Bradley
>>> Bradley University
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