[Air-l] we need a new word? (Intern)
jeremy hunsinger
jhuns at vt.edu
Sun Mar 20 05:07:57 PST 2005
many of the descriptions so far take 'communication' as a the noun, and
while this is fine for some descriptions of some events, it tends to
leave out much of the rest of the ecological systems that these in
which these technics are enmeshed. the objects that barry brought up,
were systems and technologies, onto which communication can be mapped,
onto which media can be mapped, but I think it should be very obvious
that when we are talking about their whole existence, from their
origination to their use, that not every part of that will be mapped by
communication and/or media. most, but perhaps not all of their human
use could be said to be communication, but... what about installation,
and interface, they seem to be mediated experiences that don't always
pertain directly to communication, and while they might be mediated by
speaker or screen, that mediation might not encapsulate the whole
social imaginary that affects the world in which they are used.
the internet is the general network we study, which is a network of
networks, built on the principle that information can be encapsulated
in packets, and routed by defining the endpoint, thus allowing the
computers or relevant technologies to communicate. computers and
technologies have devices that mediate the information that they
receive into user accessible experiences. this is true insofaras I can
determine, so internet technologies will always be information
technologies, mediated technologies, and communication technologies in
some respect. however, the technologies exist through society, and
individuals, both simplisticly as objects, but also in much more
complicated ways, that affect our lives, cultures, etc. -- our mental
ecology, our social ecology, and our environmental ecology.
so, that's why I use "ICT" and then describe what I'm talking about
further should the need arise.
On Mar 20, 2005, at 4:05 AM, richard-seyler.ling at telenor.com wrote:
> Wouldn't a type of overly technical description be IP mediated
> communication? All the things you describe are IP based and go via
> the Internet. Yet they are communication (in the social sense of the
> word).
>
> Using IP mediated communication would allow us the fun of coining a
> new acronym like IPMC or IPMECOM or IPCOM that only the cognicenti
> understand for awhile.
>
> I note, however, that your discussion does not necessarily include
> mobile communication. For that we would need another acronym like
> MOMECOM for mobile mediated communication.
>
> Rich L.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:air-l-aoir.org-bounces at listserv.aoir.org]On Behalf Of Barry
> Wellman
> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2005 16:45 PM
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> Subject: [Air-l] we need a new word?
>
>
> I was speaking at a seminar for non-techies at MIT yesterday (not a
> contradiction, as these were community development folks from across
> the
> USofA).
>
> And I found myself saying -- and my PPTs reading -- "Internet" -- but
> then
> verbally qualifying by saying, "well I really don't mean the
> traditional
> email Internet, but also IM, chat, lists, video, etc." (add your
> favorite
> including Usenet and BBS).
>
> What to call it? "Computer mediated communication" is a mouthful,
> jargony
> and chews up PPT space. "New media" is too indistinct and PoMo:
> moreover,
> is email "new media" any more? We should focus on the affordances of
> the media and not on the newness.
>
> So what to call it. My first thought at the breakfast table was
> "e-media",
> but I am open to other suggestions. I also am putting it on the list,
> because I am confident that others have had similar dilemmas, and that
> it
> would be best if we had a standard word.
>
> Barry
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Jeremy Hunsinger
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