[Air-l] british boycott over/no politics?

Ann De Vaney adevaney at uci.edu
Thu May 26 16:42:32 PDT 2005


There is no space outside of politics.



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On 5/26/05 2:22 PM, "Sarah Stein" <sstein at unity.ncsu.edu> wrote:

> Thanks Greg Elmer for your cogent response to this issue. The last I
> looked the people who regularly get silenced when a "no politics"
> discussion rule is floated are those with little power in the first
> place. All of AoIR activities are political.
> Sarah Stein
> 
>> Barry (et als),
>> 
>> I took Jeremy's note to mean that it is not the role of the
>> association to take political stands. And while I find such blanket
>> policies (along with assumptions about what constitutes the
>> "political) troublesome, you've now seemingly extended this logic to
>> the AOiR listserv. What's more since you don't seem to want to take
>> your own advice why should the rest of us avoid 'politics' on the
>> list serv?
>> 
>> I for one would like to see a broad discussion about the social
>> implications of new media, the Internet, scholarship, and the
>> acadmemy (which as some of you know can get messy and political). If
>> you're not interested in posts about political issues that impact
>> upon academic life and society in general then I'd encourage you to
>> actively 'delete'.
>> 
>> 
>> Greg Elmer
>> 
>> 
>>>  Although there are counter-arguments to the anti-Israeli posting
>>>  yesterday, I agree with Jeremy Hunsinger that they are out of place on
>>>  this list.
>>> 
>>>  But since the issue has been brought up, my position is that
>>>  professionalsocieties should be extraordinarily cautious about
>>>  encouraging boycotts of
>>>  universities. I don't believe in collective punishment, even if
>>>  there was
>>>  a crime -- and there are different sets of "facts"  floating around on
>>>  this matter. Hence, I have worked a bit to encourage the ending of the
>>>  boycott. And am glad that it happened.
>>> 
>>>  For reasons of the first para, I won't respond to any postings
>>>  about the
>>>  boycott -- or Israel -- on this list and urge us all to refocus on
>>>  AOIRstuff.
>>> 
>>>  Barry
>>>  _____________________________________________________________________
>>> 
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>>> 
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>>> 
>> 
>> Greg Elmer, PhD
>> Bell Globemedia Research Chair
>> Rogers Communications Centre/School of Radio-TV Arts
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