[Air-l] Downloading music

Mon Feb 27 14:56:32 PST 2006

Jeremy:

Can you provide a url link to John Logie's paper? I am conducting
research on edutainment and convergence and this issue is becoming a
propaganda battle between the companies who can lobby and persuade
lawmakers and the consumers who value fair use. This is beginning to
look like total capitalism which is different from the old style of
capitalism. Globalism has seemed to bring out the worst in too many
businesses. Here is a revolutionary idea. Provide a good product
inexpensively and you will not have to worry about illegal activity.
Hence, the reason iTunes has over a billion downloads in just a few
years and WalMart is the king of the retailing world. I am not saying
that these institutions are perfect but they seem to get it when it
comes to their customers more often than not. Suing your customers is
simply mistreating your customers and if the music industry is not
careful they may create competitors on the web who outsell them in ten
years and who refuse to sell their businesses. Remember the old days
when Erols led the world in video rentals until Blockbuster annihilated
them, and now NetFlix and others are killing hurting Blockbuster because
of convergence.

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[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Sue Cranmer
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:24 AM
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Subject: Re: [Air-l] Downloading music

Thanks for the info. This is useful. I will check out John Logie's paper
too and retune my 'intuition'.
BW

Sue

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[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hunsinger
Sent: 25 February 2006 14:13
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Subject: Re: [Air-l] Downloading music

it depends on the individual track as to whether it is illegal or not.
there is quite a bit of perfectly legal downloadable music on  
archive.org, http://www.archive.org/details/audio   and record  
companies and artists do release individual tracks off albums for free
and some people, like Loca http://www.locarecords.com/ index2.html ,
release whole albums freely l, or under special  
license like creative commons, or open content.   however, you have  
to be aware of whether those are licensed or just copyrighted and
whether there are modifications to the terms, etc. etc.

however, i do find the intuition that 'if you didn't pay, it is illegal'
to be very interesting, because that is the intuition that  
record companies try to promote in the u.s.   John Logie gave an  
interesting paper about that in Chicago .
On Feb 25, 2006, at 8:56 AM, Sue Cranmer wrote:

> Hi
>
> Can anyone clarify for me when it's legal/illegal to download music 
> from the internet. I've just checked out sites like 
> http://www.mp3musichq.com/me/index.asp?source=guks-03&kw=limewire
> which say
> that it's legal as long as you follow the copyright rules.
>
> I have also read articles saying that some companies are releasing 
> stuff by up and coming bands for promotional reasons, that is free to 
> download online. But, the stuff on sites like limewire is more far 
> reaching than just new/promotional.
>
> I had assumed that if you didn't pay for it it was illegal. But having

> interviewed many 14 year olds about it this week, this is clearly not 
> their understanding.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Sue
>
>
>
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