[Air-l] Students or spammers -- the background

Deanya Lattimore mdlattim at syr.edu
Mon Jun 12 11:45:57 PDT 2006

Thanks, Holly, for all your work!

I wonder if it was an assignment to post to a listserv in some class.  
Back in the late 90s, I used to require my students to join a listserv 
(I teach internet writing), but I knew better even then than to ask 
them to post to it.  Many did anyway, barely ever even understanding 
that the idea was to *learn* about language used in communities rather 
than *spout* language that they thought would enlighten the list.

If the students are reading our discussions about them, they should 
understand that the first requirement of being on a listserv is to read 
through archives if you don't have enough time to wait and lurk.  
You're not *contributing* to a conversation if you are just dropping 
information with no context.

In the meantime, I had started putting their email addresses on my 
delete filter, but I don't want to automatically delete every email 
that comes in from Korea!!


On Monday, June 12, 2006, at 01:47 PM, Holly Kruse wrote:

> I have been dealing with this group of students in Korea -- as they 
> identify
> themselves when sent the form email message asking them to explain who 
> they
> are and why they want to join air-l -- on the subscription approval 
> front
> for months.  My sense with many of them a few months ago was that they 
> were
> in a class (one that met on Tuesday, because that's when the requests 
> for
> approval would show up in my mailbox) for which they are supposed to
> subscribe to the list, and then post to the list.  My impression may, 
> of
> course, have been quite wrong.
> As a reminder, let me just add that anyone who wants to subscribe to 
> air-l
> is sent a message to which they must respond before they are added.  
> The
> idea is mainly to establish that these are real people who want to
> subscribe, not the results of mass-subscribing bots.  The individuals 
> in
> question all responded, and said variously that they were students in 
> Korea,
> in many cases identifying the university, some saying that they were 
> Chinese
> students studying in Korea, and that they wanted to join the list to 
> learn
> more about the internet, or that they were in a class about the 
> internet and
> wanted to join the list.
> There are a few different ways in which this recent problem can be 
> handled,
> and we on the exec should be able to come up with a fairly satisfactory
> solution very soon.
> Holly
> -- 
> Holly Kruse
> Faculty of Communication
> The University of Tulsa
> 600 S. College Ave.
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