[Air-l] <Introduce interesting News about Wibro>

Ellis Godard egodard at csun.edu
Mon Jun 12 12:31:42 PDT 2006


I didn't berate the list. I cautioned, in an international context of
studying online interactions, that concerns about "incorrect English" might
be suspect if not hypocritical. ;)

-eg

> -----Original Message-----
> From: joshua raclaw [mailto:Joshua.Raclaw at colorado.edu] 
> Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 10:17 AM
> To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org; ellis.godard at csun.edu
> Subject: Re: [Air-l] <Introduce interesting News about Wibro>
> 
> 
> Since when are typos and punctuation errors 'incorrect English'?
> 
> I don't think anything's been stigmatized.  Anyone with an 
> email account knows that the non-standard syntax, the varying 
> sentence length and structure, and some of the other features 
> of the South Korean emails already mentioned are just as 
> common to spam emails as they are legit emails from 
> non-fluent speakers of English.  The fact that these emails 
> came in a rush at around the same time period and had similar 
> FROM headers from different addresses certainly adds to the 
> idea that these emails were spam, but the 'Engrish' used 
> therein had just as much to do with that idea.  There's no 
> point in berating the list for not being above simple 
> linguistic prejudices.
> 
> 
> 
> Joshua Raclaw - PhD student
> Department of Linguistics
> Culture, Language & Social Practice
> University of Colorado at Boulder http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~raclaw/
> 
> 
> Quoting Ellis Godard <ellis.godard at csun.edu>:
> 
> * Nilz mentioned:
> * > or whatnot... in what seems to me not alwayss
> * > correct English... maybe it is content and we did
> * > not catch the latest posting fashion in the far
> * > east or it is plain spam...
> *
> * I'm surprised that anyone on this list, particularly a 
> German whose messages
> * (even here) include typos and punctuation errors, would 
> risk stigmatizing
> * incorrect English by identifying it as an indicator of spam.
> *
> * I, too, offer humble apologies if the poster(s?) is/are legitimate
> * inquirers. But what concerned me wasn't the citation of 
> commercial services
> * (which happens here frequently), or the incorrect Engrish 
> (isn't AOiR trying
> * to be more international?) but (a) use of the same 
> sentences with varying
> * FROM headers, and (b) the haphazard mix of perfect 
> sentences ("people even
> * in remote villages of the world can use telephone and 
> high-speed internet
> * connections at the same time") with those not quite that 
> ("It can make some
> * change a paradigm related with phone").
> *
> * -eg
> *
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