[Air-l] A reminder

[Charlie Balch]

Like the majority of the list, I've been lurking on this thread. I feel the
need to make a few comments:

1) Trolls are a legitimate topic for AOIR discussion.
2) My understanding of a Troll posting is that it originates from a (usually
irregular) poster that is off-topic and distracting to the list. I don't
think that has been occurring.
3) I hope that any IRB or peer reviewed journal would not allow the use of
results from unannounced trolling by a researcher in any published paper.
4) I very much agree that there are many topics of more interest to members
of this list than some of the recent discussions.


Charlie Balch
Professor of CIS Arizona Western College
http://charlie.balch.ong


-----Original Message-----
From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Sam Tilden
Sent: Thursday, October 12, 2006 11:01 PM
To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
Subject: Re: [Air-l] A reminder

Matthew and others,
   
  Dr. Cornwell cannot defend himself he was removed from the list by you. I
have researched the list and have interviewd him and while his comments may
be controversial he is certainly not what an who he has been reduced him to.
   
  Everyone is all too willing to villify him and to what end.
   
  He and I disagree on several things but the facts speak of a problem
within the list and particularly several members.
   
  The question I asked is valid. Do the rules only apply to people you like
and with whom you agree.
   
  Rehak's comments are as provocative as Elijah's. Neither one have been
held accountable for their actions.
   
  One of the things I found in the literature is that Trools often call
other people trolls to start the fight.
   
  On another note the front door to the archives is wide open for the world
to see. While participation in the discussion is closed the results are
clearly public and subject to a fair use policy.
   
  I started this project to chat with and understand why people become
trolls. I have come to understand they are manufactured in most cases by the
wolf pack rejecting them. This is certainly true of Dr. Cornwell and Lachlan
Brown.
   
  Were this the only two people Elijah has accused you could almost dismiss
it. But ask Dr. Koenig how he feels being accused.
   
  This is supposed to be a scholarly organization not a gang.
   
  I suppose you will remove me now.
   
  I don't know if I even like Dr. Cornwell but, I dislike playground bullies
even more.
   
  Sam

Matthew Allen <M.Allen at exchange.curtin.edu.au> wrote:
  Dear all

As was previously noted, this list is not the place to exchange ideas and
suggestions that might be better conducted in one-to-one correspondence; nor
is it the place to fwd emails sent privately. Most of all, while research
INTO trolling is legitimate internet research, and can be discussed here
(while noting that we don't want to become fixed on only one thing), we
should not use the list for:

a) too much reflection on what is happening on the list (especially
criticisms of others' posts to the list)

b) creating a research 'object' that is then being studied.

I will reiterate that the list is a service provided by the Association on
behalf of members and others. This service is not 'public'. It is private
and based on subscription to the list permitted by AoIR. AoIR at all times
reserves the right to refuse subscription to this service and the decision
of the Association in this respect is final. We very very much do not wish
to use this right.

Matt


Dr Matthew Allen
Associate Professor Internet Studies
Curtin University of Technology, CRICOS 00301J Australia
m.allen at curtin.edu.au http://smi.curtin.edu.au/netstudies/allen.htm 
+61 8 92663511 (v) +61 8 9266 3166 (f)
President, Association of Internet Researchers http://www.aoir.org 

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