[Air-l] ableist language (was facebook)

Ellis Godard egodard at csun.edu
Fri Sep 8 10:48:51 PDT 2006


Behavioral proscriptions and insults, are neither less junky nor better
evidence of life, than discussions about verbiage to describe online
behavior. 

Your priveleging of normative discussion versus discussion of Internet
Research is interesting. A successful theory of online behavior would
explain why that's common on this list.

-eg

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> [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of KQ-AMAZON
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> Subject: Re: [Air-l] ableist language (was facebook)
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> 
> again,
> i want everyone to use the list cautiously and with some 
> taste. do not junk mail other people's email box with 
> personal correspondences.
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> kmancuso at gmail.com), consider sending the email to that person.
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> only email the list with information that everyone will care to know.
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> we all have a life and do not want to spend time screening 
> through many junk 
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> for those who do not have a life, GET ONE!!
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> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ellis Godard" <egodard at csun.edu>
> To: <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> Cc: <kmancuso at gmail.com>
> Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 12:34 AM
> Subject: Re: [Air-l] ableist language (was facebook)
> 
> 
> > I'm all for respecting differences, and choosing words 
> carefully. And 
> > I of course mean no offense in saying that I can't see your hair 
> > color, hair length, height, facial expressions, etcetera - 
> nor that I 
> > am blinded to innumerable aspects of your appearance and behavior.
> >
> > As with optical blindness, I have a significant lack of (visual) 
> > awareness of many typically (and visually) observable matters. To 
> > infer from that I'm casting aspersions upon the visually 
> impaired, is 
> > somewhere between insulting and inane. But I nonetheless appreciate 
> > your sparking a frustrated
> > chuckle. ;)
> >
> > -eg
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org 
> >> [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Mancuso
> >> Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2006 1:21 PM
> >> To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> >> Subject: [Air-l] ableist language (was facebook)
> >>
> >>
> >> In answer to Mr Cornwell's commment (and possibly Dr 
> Goddard's--since 
> >> he said it was paraphrased I don't know what wording Dr 
> Goddard used) 
> >> that we are all half-blind on the internet, it is 
> inappropriate and 
> >> ableist to use the word blind to denote what appears from 
> this post 
> >> to mean wilful ignorance.  By using that term in that way, you are 
> >> arguing that just because blind people cannot see they are somehow
> >> less aware of the world around them than sighted people, 
> which isn't
> >> true: just differently aware.  The sort of wilful spin on it
> >> here just makes the ableism even worse.
> >>
> >> Perhaps we could use a term like oblivious or unaware instead.  A 
> >> thesaurus will provide you with many excellent options that do not 
> >> cast aspersions on a particular group. Thank you in 
> advance for your 
> >> consideration in keeping AIR-L a friendly and non-discriminatory 
> >> space for everyone.
> >>
> >> Kathy
> >>
> >> --
> >> . . . connection in an isolating age . . .
> >> Katherine Mancuso, graduate student, Emory University
> >>
> >> Web 2.0 research, life, and meta: 
> http://museumfreak.livejournal.com
> >> http://del.icio.us/museumfreak
> >>
> >> "Whenever anyone says 'You are,' they mean 'I want you to be.'" 
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