[Air-l] vampirefreaks and moral panics

Thu Sep 14 12:11:17 PDT 2006

There was another goth-related murder, that of Pamela Vitale in 
Calfornia. Her murderer was recently convicted. As Josh said it will be 
interesting to see how online communities respond.

Bonnie

Bonnie A. Nardi
School of Information and Computer Sciences
University of California, Irvine
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On Sep 14, 2006, at 11:37 AM, joshua raclaw wrote:

> Columbine also had the connection between goth music and culture, 
> which is
> where I'd think a lot of the blame will end up for the Dawson's 
> shooting as
> well - if anything, I would think something might be mentioned between 
> the use
> of social software as a vehicle for planning the killings, rather than 
> an
> explicit link being made between the two.
>
> I'm interested in what the reactions from other online goth 
> communities will
> be like, both members and site admin, who I can only assume will be 
> under fire
> in the near future.
>
>
> Joshua Raclaw - PhD student
> Department of Linguistics
> Culture, Language & Social Practice
> University of Colorado at Boulder
> http://ucsu.colorado.edu/~raclaw/
>
>
> Quoting Bernie Hogan <bernie.hogan at utoronto.ca>:
>
> * Just a note - The Patriot act is US legislation and this is a 
> Canadian
> * investigation.
> *
> * Is anyone else waiting to hear how the moral panic might shape up?
> * We've already had heavy metal music (Late 80s / Early 90s shooters - 
> see
> * Tipper Gore) and violent video games (Columbine), surely someone is 
> going to
> * editorialize some link between social software and this terrible 
> event.
> *
> * Take care,
> * BERNiE
> *
> * Bernie Hogan
> * PhD Candidate
> * Department of Sociology
> * University of Toronto
> *
> * I received a message from Sara M. Grimes at approximately 9/14/06 
> 1:49 PM.
> * Above is my reply.
> *
> * > Thank you to those who have suggested I look in Google cache and 
> similar
> * web
> * > archives.
> * >
> * > Just to clarify on my last post and question, however, I'm trying 
> to find
> * > information about how and why and by whom the journal was deleted. 
> It seems
> * > that this is standard practice in these cases, but who makes the 
> actual
> * > decision to remove it - is it the sites themselves, or is it a 
> standard
> * part
> * > of the police investigation (or is there even some law within the 
> patriot
> * > act that dictates that they have to)?
> * >
> * > On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:42:33 -0400 gelmer at ryerson.ca wrote:
> * >> Is it not cached by Google?
> * >>
> * >> /Greg
> * >>
> * >> ----- Original Message -----
> * >> From: "Sara M. Grimes" <smgrimes at sfu.ca>
> * >> Date: Thursday, September 14, 2006 1:22 pm
> * >> Subject: [Air-l] vampirefreaks and yesterday's massacre
> * >>
> * >>> Hi All -
> * >>> The shootings at Dawson's College in Montreal, QC, Canada 
> yesterday
> * >>> remainbig and deeply disturbing news in Canada, as the Quebec and
> * >>> Montreal police
> * >>> begin to piece together a profile of the killer. Today's CBC 
> online
> * >>> newssite mentions a goth/vampire themed web community that the
> * >>> killer belonged
> * >>> to (vampirefreaks.com), where he apparently kept an online diary
> * >>> and gave
> * >>> hints about what he was planning
> * >>> (http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/09/14/gunman-
> * >>> shooting.html).In trying to access his blog today, I discovered
> * >>> that it has unsurprisingly
> * >>> been removed. I'm assuming that police officials are responsible
> * >>> for this,
> * >>> to allow the investigation to proceed without interference, but
> * >>> could also
> * >>> see the site operators taking it down for other reasons. I was
> * >>> wondering if
> * >>> anyone has heard anything to confirm when/why/by whom the diary 
> was
> * >>> removed?Is it standard practice during this type of 
> investigation?
> * >>> I seem to
> * >>> remember hearing about similar blog deletions after past 
> shootings
> * >>> of this
> * >>> kind, but I can't find anything written on this.
> * >>>
> * >>> Sara M. Grimes
> * >>> PhD Candidate/School of Communication
> * >>> Research Assistant/Applied Communication + Technology (ACT) Lab
> * >>> Simon Fraser University
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