[Air-L] Second Life- second thoughts

Scott MacLeod helianth at gmail.com
Wed Aug 29 10:05:37 PDT 2007 

Good questions. MIT Professor Michael Fischer's "Emergent Forms of
Life and the Anthropological Voice" is future oriented, and very
germane to your interests.

Scott




On 8/28/07, tom abeles <tabeles at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Scott
>
> Thanks- I will look at it
>
> My interest is from a present/future perspective. In the MMORPG's, there are
> bots with which the players can interact- simple but bots, never-the-less.
> The military now has over 4000 bots in the field and some of these have the
> ability to make their own decisions. Virtual Humans (as discussed in Peter
> Plantec's eponymous volume) point out that it might not be long before the
> MUVE's have their own-not approaching the intelligence of a Kurzweil
> Singularity ideal, but on their way.
>
> Thus, few if any who play in SL and the emerging MUVE will have encountered
> the "natives"
>
> Also, these embodied selves are changing, especially since many of the
> opportunities for interactions cross borders as with the PDA driven
> educational programs.
>
> Yet few who participate in these worlds, your course seemingly included, act
> as if these are culturally defined environments as opposed to just "meet-up"
> spaces which change the nature of the meet-up just by virtue of being in a
> different laboratory or discussion space. The social ecology seems  almost
> transparent or even absent.
>
> thoughts?
>
> tom
>
> tom abeles
>
>
> >From: "Scott MacLeod" <helianth at gmail.com>
> >Reply-To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> >To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> >Subject: Re: [Air-L] Second Life- second thoughts
> >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 13:52:04 -0400
> >
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >MIT's Michael Fischer's book "Emergent Forms of Life and The
> >Anthropological Voice" offers the most interesting and edifying way
> >I've seen for conceiving of how to look at the effects of new
> >information technologies.
> >
> >Scott
> >
> >
> >Fischer, Michael M. J. 2004. Emergent Forms of Life and The
> >Anthropological Voice. Durham, NC: Duke University Press.
> >http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0822332388/sr=8-1/qid=1142266707/ref=pd_bbs_1/102-2945504-9813730?%5Fencoding=UTF8
> >
> >On 8/28/07, tom abeles <tabeles at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Scott
> > >
> > > How do you think about this arena sociologically when the half life for
> > > change is so short across this area and SL is the first to emerge of a
> >type
> > > of environment that is expected to be doubling in numbers yearly?
> > >
> > > Right now, environments like SL are seen much like the New World was
> >seen by
> > > the first explorers who mapped their reality onto the new lands. Thus,
> >it
> > > might seem more interesting to look at the immigrants and explorers.
> > >
> > > The rise of interactivity via the emerging technologies of PDA's and
> >dual
> > > band cell phones which add dimensions to cross border knowledge
> >transitions
> > > seems to point to much of the problems we are now seeing in the physical
> > > universe and would seem to suggest that close study would be
> >instantaneously
> > > historical in nature, past rather than present/future oriented
> > >
> > > thoughts?
> > >
> > > tom
> > >
> > > tom abeles
> > >
> > >
> > > >From: "Scott MacLeod" <helianth at gmail.com>
> > > >Reply-To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> > > >To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
> > > >Subject: Re: [Air-L] Second Life
> > > >Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:18:38 -0400
> > > >
> > > >I'm posting below two courses in Second Life on Berkman Island
> >(Harvard).
> > > >
> > > >The first starts on September 18. The second, which I'm teaching,
> > > >begins tomorrow, August 29.
> > > >
> > > >Both offer ways to begin to think about SL sociologically.
> > > >
> > > >Scott
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Virtual Reality
> > > >Becca Nesson
> > > >Berkman Island, Fall 2007
> > > >Tuesdays 8-10 ET, 5-7 SLT
> > > >http://www.eecs.harvard.edu/~nesson/e3/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Society and Information Technology in SL (vis-à-vis Manuel Castells'
> > > >research on the Network Society)
> > > >Scott MacLeod - scott at scottmacleod.com
> > > >Berkman Island, Fall 2007
> > > >Wed – 7-9 ET, 4-6 SLT
> > > >http://socinfotech.pbwiki.com
> > > >http://scottmacleod.com/papers.htm
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >On 8/28/07, Alex -Vipowernet <alex at islands.vi> wrote:
> > > > > Me too!
> > > > >
> > > > > Dr. Alex Randall
> > > > > Prof Communications
> > > > > Univ of the Virgin Islands.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >   Second Life Education Workshop 2007,
> > > > >   http://www.simteach.com/slccedu07proceedings.pdf
> > > > >
> > > > >   On 8/28/07, CHUNG Wai Keung <wkchung at smu.edu.sg> wrote:
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   >
> > > > >   > Wonder if anyone has come across any theoretical/sociological
> >study
> > > >on
> > > > >   > Second Life?  I would very much appreciate if someone can point
> >to
> > > >me
> > > > >   > the relevant literature.  Many thanks!
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