[Air-l] Technology Transforming Education--EE-Learning

Tue May 22 21:09:58 PDT 2007

Are you open to discussing and negotiating trade-offs, Marj?

I'd ike to study with you. Coming to Australia at this time in my life is,
however, quite out of the question. I have an infant son I must care for,
and a job that I need to keep for a number of reasons, some obvious.

And: if I can study with you and remain in California there may be some
advantages for you and for your college and for your students in Australia.
For one, I can act as a placement officer for Australian students who might
want to come to the States for a period of study.

In any event, what I'm wondering is whether you're open to trading off the
advantage that you see in the face-to-face setting to allow all of us who
can't get to Australia to learn--or if your unalterable commitment, the
beginning and end of the innovation, is the face-to-face classroom. In
Australia.

Cheers, Marj.

Steve Eskow

(I don't really have an infant son. I do have an infant grandson.) 

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[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Marj Kibby
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:51 PM
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Subject: Re: [Air-l] Technology Transforming Education--EE-Learning

Online learning does have the power to dissolve barriers of time and place -
but it is not without it's limitations ... some of which have been mentioned
in previous posts on this subject.

If you were to come to Australia, I believe there are skills that I could
teach you more effectively in a f2f situation. Koala arm-wrestling for
example - where not all students will have access to their own Koala, some
may have insufficient motivation to expend the time and effort without
direct supervision, some will lack confidence in undertaking the task
without personal guidance, some will not have the technical skill/ necessary
equipment to abstract the required information from video, audio etc, and
some of the finer points of Koala arm-wrestling may be better
demonstrated/practiced/refined in a hands-on situation.

Cheers,
Marj

Dr Marjorie Kibby,
Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and Arts The
University of Newcastle,  Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia
Marj.Kibby at newcastle.edu.au
+61 2 49216604

>>> "Dr. Steve Eskow" <drseskow at cox.net> 23/05/2007 12:12 pm >>>
I'm asking that you consider that the "hybrid" of classroom and online
negates the power of the Internet and the Web to do away with the
spatial
and temporal limitations of traditional learning.

If I were the student the standard version of "hybrid" requires that I
be
able to relocate to wherever your college is located in order to have
you be
my teacher.

The "hybrid" of ee-learning allows me or any student to work or serve
anywhere in the world and use the Internet and the World Wide Web to
create
a learning community and to engae with other students and with you and
other
faculty who never need to come together physically.

I am not physically co-located with Marj Kibby, but this medium allows
me to
learn from her without relocating. I am arguing that the extra measure
of
learning I would get from her if I were face-to-face with her in a
classroom
is doubtful, and perhaps not worth what I would have to give up in
order to
get to wherever she is.

Steve Eskow 

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Marj Kibby
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 6:03 PM
To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org 
Subject: Re: [Air-l] Technology Transforming Education--EE-Learning

This is not what I think 'hybrid' learning is. I'd describe this as
'web-supported learning'. 

In hybrid learning the online and f2f components are equal in value,
both
are essential components of the learning experience. An example would
be
where students have f2f instruction for two weeks, then undertake
group
projects or problem solving, using online communication, reference
sharing,
file sharing ... Engaging in learning experiences that are difficult
or
inconvenient in the classroom, or more effective online.

Marj

Dr Marjorie Kibby,
Senior Lecturer in Communication & Culture Faculty of Education and
Arts The
University of Newcastle,  Callaghan NSW 2308 Australia
Marj.Kibby at newcastle.edu.au 
+61 2 49216604
>>> "Dr. Steve Eskow" <drseskow at cox.net> 05/23/07 10:30 AM >>>

"Blended" or "hybrid" learning continues to be shaped by the classroom,
and
uses ICT to enrich classroom-dominated ways of learning.

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