[Air-l] Doctorow on Dealing With Trolls

Barry Saunders b.saunders at qut.edu.au
Thu May 17 01:53:41 PDT 2007


i believe Charles is referring to this:

http://alex.halavais.net/dr-w-reid-cornwell/



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On 5/17/07, James Whyte <whyte.james at yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Charles,
>
>   IMHO, this hypothetical person can no longer be considered a troll since
> a troll by definition operates outside the norms of the group. By your own
> statement, "he largely remains within the boundaries of proscribed
> behavior." Unless you mean, "once a troll always a troll", without the
> possibility of redemption. You weren't suggesting that were you?
>
>   Secondly, spam has a legal definition and if the conference is a
> non-profit activity it is considered a "public service announcement", not
> advertising, and it is excepted from the law. This exposes a possible
> imprecision in the application of another web jargonistic term. Since spam
> is legally defined, a responsible person would report this person to
> authorities.
>   Also if a mechanism for a person to unsubscribe is part of the mailing
> and he has complied to the requests then again, no foul.
>
>   Assuming he is using an pseudonym, the  use of a pseudonym is not
> unusual even in AIR-L. where many people are known only by their email
> address or alias. Most listservs do not require a real name for
> registration. I think I remember it to be true of AIR-L as well. ICBW
>
>   So in answer to your question, the only name you can reasonably apply is
> "participant." in good standing. One could assume that he has learned to be
> a good nettizen.
>
>   There remains the possibility that a few members of the list could flame
> him so as to provoke a defense that will then be considered poor netiquette
> and evidence of "Trolling." But of course if he is smart he will not be
> provoked. Wouldn't the flaming be a violation of group norms?
>
>   Your question actually exposes the subjective nature of such labeling.
> Good job and cleverly framed.
>
>   James
>
>
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