[Air-L] in dis-praise of the Chronicle

[Dana Rotman]

This is especially true now that IM services, among others, tend to
consolidate texting, IM-ing, tweeting and other forms of status updates into
one spot (theirs, naturally), and provide both web based and mobile apps.

~ Dana



Dana Rotman
PhD Candidate
University of Maryland's iSchool

On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Robert Mason <rmmason at u.washington.edu>wrote:

> Mmm...interesting; possible exception?
>
> However, I'd guess that IM is mostly from the computer (web-based) and
> texting (telco based) is mostly from mobile phones.  As netbooks get smaller
> and mobiles become better with the web services, the lines may become
> blurred.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Barry Wellman [mailto:wellman at chass.utoronto.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 6:11 PM
> To: Robert Mason
> Cc: aoir list
> Subject: RE: [Air-L] in dis-praise of the Chronicle
>
> Altho I wonder if IM has mostly given way to texting. Haven't checked the
> data, though.
>
>  Barry Wellman
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>
> On Tue, 30 Jun 2009, Robert Mason wrote:
>
> > Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 18:08:36 -0700
> > From: Robert Mason <rmmason at u.washington.edu>
> > To: Barry Wellman <wellman at chass.utoronto.ca>, aoir list <air-l at aoir.org
> >
> > Subject: RE: [Air-L] in dis-praise of the Chronicle
> >
> > Barry, your next-to-last paragraph is on target, IMO:  think of all the
> predictions of "death of...because of the introduction of..." [AM radio...FM
> radio; radio...TV; movies...TV;...the list goes on]
> >
> > It's not true of all technologies, of course, but it's true for
> communications technologies/media.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org [mailto:
> air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Barry Wellman
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 4:08 PM
> > To: aoir list; Denise N. Rall; Catherine Middleton; Peter Timusk
> > Subject: [Air-L] in dis-praise of the Chronicle
> >
> > I was appalled by the Chronicle's article -- especially the headline --
> on
> > the putative death of e-lists such as this one.
> >
> > First, they gave no systematic evidence, just some anecdotes. Although
> the
> > article was more nuanced than the headline: "on the one hand, on the
> other
> > hand." Yet, still anecdotes.
> >
> > Second, they ignored the organizational ecology research that has shown
> > that some organizations die and some get born all the time.
> >
> > Third, the posts by my fellow Canucks Catherine Middleton and Peter
> Timusk
> > clearly showed the difference between 140 character Tweets (which I do a
> > fair amount) and posts to this list (ibid). Both of their posts were too
> > nuanced to be short tweets.
> >
> > Fourth, as Marc Smith can show you, even the older Bulletin Boards are
> > still thriving.
> >
> > Indeed, my hunch is that each communication form adds on to the other,
> > rather than displacing it, which is why I never get much writing done
> > (today's excusive, anyway).
> >
> > Happy Canada Day to All (except Janet Napolitano),
> >
> >  Barry Wellman
> >  _______________________________________________________________________
> >
> >   S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC               NetLab Director
> >   Department of Sociology                  725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388
> >   University of Toronto   Toronto Canada M5S 2J4   twitter:barrywellman
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