[Air-L] Air-L Digest, Vol 66, Issue 17

Mridula mridula at gmail.com
Sun Jan 17 05:01:10 PST 2010

I post my pictures on Flickr and if my images would be pulled (which would
not be the case given your research topic) I would like that permission was
asked beforehand. Otherwise to me it is like opening a Pandora's box.

To give you a simple case many of us post under all rights reserved and only
today I saw this


Looks like the Independent pulled some images and some people of course did
not like it. In your case at least there is no commercial use but still
there is no harm in asking beforehand if that is feasible for you.

I don't think photographic quoting makes sense because you would probably
not quote a small part of the picture as under fair use. But then this is
just my opinion.


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> From: paul caplan <praxis at theinternationale.com>
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> Subject: [Air-L] A question of Open Source ethics
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> Hi. I'm after a bit of advice from wiser souls!
> I am developing an AHRC-funded, practice-based PhD
> (http://olympicarcades.theinternationale.com) at Birkbeck, University of
> London.
> In short I am exploring Flickr as a space for imag(in)ing the London
> 2012 Olympics through the development of a mobile phone App(aratus)
> using a model based on Benjamin's Arcades Project.
> The question I have is about collecting the Flickr rags 'n refuse.
> I will be pulling images from Flickr into the App allowing users to see
> the distributed imagery. So far so simple, no real issue over browsing
> Flickr.
> However I also want to use the App(aratus) to screengrab those images
> and add them back onto Flickr where they will become part of the
> distributed imag(in)ings. Furthermore, following Benjamin, I want to
> screengrab/'quote' and annotate those images with textual commentary.
> Both of these sets of images would be on my Flickr page.
> The App(aratus) would also allow the user to screengrab the flow of
> images and upload to their Flickr pages (which would then be pulled back
> into the flow).
> All these quoted and annotated images would include links back to the
> 'originals'.
> In short, what are the ethical issues here about 'photographic quoting'.
> I know there is a long tradition of postmodern imagers like Levine
> rephotographing and then displaying images but this is slightly
> different. Obviously if I was only 'using' Creative Commons images,
> there would be no problem, but part of the issue I am looking at is the
> broader issue of network imag(in)ing and ideally I don't want to rule
> out any distributed 2012 images.
> Do people think there are any research ethics issues here?
> Any thoughts welcome.
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> paul caplan
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