[Air-L] Permission to reproduce webpages?

Heidelberg, Chris Chris.Heidelberg at ssa.gov
Thu Sep 2 04:35:50 PDT 2010


Andre:

Those publications will probably welcome what you are trying to do because it will it is aiding in the serious academic persona that all publications like to have. I have already told Brian that I think academia needs to literally tactically sue publishers like the AP and force the AP and organizations like AP to sign agreements when needing academic IP, interviews and more. Academia needs its own pit-bull group to go after these ravenous publishers. Is it any wonder that print is mortally wounded in too many places?

Good luck! 

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From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Brian Holland
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Subject: Re: [Air-L] Permission to reproduce webpages?


The AP is particularly litigious in this regard.  They have an extensive licensing program and they expect folks to use it.  In fact, the existence of such a program is a major factor against fair use -- i.e., it makes your claim of fair use less likely to succeed.

- Brian

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From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of André Brock
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2010 5:08 PM
To: Philippa Smith; air-l at listserv.aoir.org
Subject: Re: [Air-L] Permission to reproduce webpages?

Thanks, Philippa!  I appreciate the heads up.  Fortunately, the sites we
examined (Racialicious, Jezebel, and Essence.com for those keeping score at
home) aren't pulling from AP (thank god!).

I'll keep y'all posted on my progress and outcome.

André

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 4:51 PM, Philippa Smith <philippa.smith at aut.ac.nz>wrote:

> Just as an aside and to throw a spanner in the works -  I've had a
> situation where we wanted to use a screenshot from an online newspaper
> but because the source of the article was  Associated Press we had to
> get their permission as well to reproduce the text.  This came at a
> financial cost.  It's worth noting whether websites contain material
> from other sources that might also need permission.  Unfortunately this
> is a can of worms scenario.
>
> Kind regards
>
> Philippa
>
> Philippa Smith
> PhD Candidate
> Institute of Culture, Discourse & Communication
> AUT University
> Auckland
> NEW ZEALAND
>
> >>> André Brock<andre.brock at gmail.com> 09/02/10 9:41 AM >>>
> Thanks to everyone who's answered me so far (Hi, Annette!).  The legal
> advice was particularly helpful, and i'm going to follow Ulf-Dietrich's
> advice and contact the websites - i have contacts at a couple of them.
>
> Does AoIR have a specific statement on fair use of Internet/ICT
> materials
> for research in the field?  I know we have an extensive set of materials
> on
> Ethics... (and no, i'm not volunteering to write it.  i'm just asking)
>
> André
>
> On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Andre Brock <andre.brock at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > For the first time in, well, ever I've been asked by a journal to
> obtain
> > permission from a website to reproduce a screenshot of a webpage.
> Not, to
> > be clear, of an image on the page - but of the page itself.   I've
> been
> > offered the option of removing the image and replacing it with a URL,
> but
> > from an archival standpoint that's problematic.  Webpages with dynamic
> > content change all the time, not to mention that authors sometimes
> change
> > formats/platforms, modify pages, or remove content that was included
> in the
> > original analysis.
> >
> > I don't want to miss the publishing deadline, but I need to know:
> "where
> > dey do dat at?!?" (translation: since when did fair use guidelines get
> bent
> > so badly in academic publishing?)
> >
> > André Brock
> > Assistant Professor, SLIS/POROI
> > University of Iowa
> >
> >
>
>
> --
> Andre Brock
> Assistant Professor - Library and Information Science/POROI
> University of Iowa
> Iowa City, IA 52242
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Andre Brock
Assistant Professor - Library and Information Science/POROI
University of Iowa
Iowa City, IA 52242
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