[Air-L] blog photo copyrights

Sun Nov 6 10:45:45 PST 2011

Thank you so much for your helpful responses!

I work with Military Blogs, which act in a sort of gray zone between
journalism and interpersonal communication (like many digital media
types..). Because many Milbloggers considered their roles to be those of
active contributors to the public discourses about the iraq war, I do not
think that I have to restrict myself when publishing i.e. quotes from their
blogs or screen shots.

As for the pictures, I have asked the bloggers for permission now and feel
that I do need their permission, because of copyright issues.

My publisher makes the argument that it is mainly about the size of
pictures/text and how they are integrated into the text. That would make it
okay then to publish parts of pictures without permission, but not the
entire thing.

On Sat, Nov 5, 2011 at 9:36 PM, Peter Timusk <ptimusk at sympatico.ca> wrote:

> The copyright laws in Canada are such that as soon as you publish something
> you own the copyright. Not even publish simply write down. As such the
> photo's on my blog are copyright. I would need to give you permission to
> use
> them especially if in another published work rather than just linking to
> them. Just because you *can* download a photo or link to it does not mean
> you *should* do this.
>
>
> Peter Timusk
> at571 at ncf.ca
> ptimusk at sympatico.ca
> web: www.crystalcomputing.net
> blogs www.cyborgcitizen.org
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
> [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Annette Markham
> Sent: November-05-11 3:40 PM
> To: joana ro
> Cc: AOIR
> Subject: Re: [Air-L] blog photo copyrights
>
> Hi Johanna,
>
> Your question actually raises some other issues about ownership of content.
> Aside from intellectual property,  there's the consideration of whether or
> not the bloggers consider their blog to be private or public space.  While
> some authors of public blogs consider these to be freely available for
> reproduction and analysis by researchers, other authors consider their
> blogs
> to be private spaces.  Even when users  acknowledge their information as
> public, they might have concerns about how their information is used (see
> boyd and Marwick's recent discussion of this in a study of youth facebook
> users ("social privacy in networked
> publics<
> http://www.zephoria.org/thoughts/archives/2011/05/09/how-teens-under
> stand-privacy.html>,"
> --a working paper on danah boyd's website), or from a more conceptual
> perspective, Nissenbaum's 2010 book on Privacy and Contextual Integrity.)
>
> You may have already gone through this stage, but one ethical consideration
> would be to ask yourself if there's a chance the content or photos would be
> considered 'sensitive' materials.  What potential harm might occur if
> personally identifiable information is disclosed in your book?  Is any
> possible harm (present or future) balanced in some way by the social and
> scholarly benefits of your reproducing and publishing the content of these
> blogs?
>
> Taking a conservative stance and assuming that at some point, the bloggers
> might feel compromised or harmed, one might ask: is there a way to make the
> point without using personal (copyrighted, protected, private) pictures?
> Could other images (your own or stock) be used instead, as a representative
> sample of what is actually out there?  This avenue might also help solve
> some logistic issues of getting permission if the bloggers don't respond to
> your requests.
>
> As far as getting permissions, I'd add that it's always a good idea to keep
> a careful record of the permission process (for any future reference and
> potential problems that might arise). I don't know about German laws, but
> if
> there are no formal procedures, you might have a look at some of the
> excellent models and recommendations from various universities. I tend to
> use Columbia University's copyright advisory office when I need advice on
> developing systematic procedures for seeking permissions:
> http://copyright.columbia.edu/copyright/permissions/requesting-permission/
>
>
> Good luck,
>
> annette
> *****************************************************
> Annette N. Markham, Ph.D.
> Visiting Scholar, Department of Communication University of Arizona, Tucson
>
> amarkham at gmail.com
> http://markham.internetinquiry.org/
>
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>
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 3:26 AM, joana ro <joanaro at googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > Dear Anders, dear Heather,
> >
> > thanks for the advice! Yes, the book is being published in Germany.
> > The publisher doesn't seem to be very internet-savy unfortunately.
> >
> > Did you guys simply ask for permission or ask, whether they wanted
> > money right from the start?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Johanna
> >
> > On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Anders Fagerjord <
> > anders.fagerjord at media.uio.no> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Den 3. nov.. 2011 kl. 10.07 skrev joana ro:
> > >
> > >
> > >  I am in the process of publishing a book about blogs and would like
> > > to
> > use
> > >> not just screenshots, but also individual photos taken from the blog.
> > >> These
> > >> photos were more often than not, taken by the bloggers themselves
> > >> and might be considered theirs in copyright terms (although there
> > >> is nothing to indicate this in the text itself).
> > >>
> > >> What are your experiences with publishing this sort of material?
> > >> How did you proceed? Did you ask the bloggers for permission? Any
> tipps?
> > >>
> > >
> > > The need for permission will depend on intellectual property law and
> > > photography law in the country you publish. Is this a German
> publication?
> > >
> > > Under Norwegian law, you would in most cases need to ask the
> > > photographer and any identifiable persons in each image for their
> > > permission, although there are exceptions.
> > >
> > > I have contacted a few Web site owners earlier, and both response
> > > times and whether they want (large) pay varies a lot.
> > >
> > > good luck!
> > >
> > > --anders
> > >
> > > --
> > > Anders Fagerjord, dr.art.
> > > Associate professor, Head of Studies
> > >
> > > Department of Media and Communication, University of Oslo P.O. Box
> > > 1093 Blindern
> > > N-0317 OSLO
> > > Norway
> > >
> > > http://www.media.uio.no   http://fagerjord.no
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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