[Air-L] For everyone and their grad students: Fake, pay-to-publish journals & conferences

[Brian Butler]

mmm…  It is worthwhile to distinguish "publishing" from "distribution".  

Distribution has gotten much cheaper.  
Publishing remains a highly labor intensive activity that requires significant expertise and organization to do well.  

….



On Apr 8, 2013, at 1:42 PM, michael gurstein wrote:

> Publishing may be dirt cheap but any systematic/formal e.g. academic
> publishing isn't free... So the problem is that while there is a necessary
> and valuable shift from commercial publishing (and outrageous profiteering)
> to open access online publishing there really aren't any good business
> models yet to cover the (much less but not totally trivial) costs of the new
> forms of academic publishing.  
> 
> If for whatever reason (and there are lots including the issues pointed to
> here) one doesn't want to go to a pay for play model that leaves
> advertising(???) or donations (???) or...
> 
> M
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Elijah Wright
> Sent: Monday, April 08, 2013 8:38 AM
> To: Nathaniel Poor
> Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org list
> Subject: Re: [Air-L] For everyone and their grad students: Fake,
> pay-to-publish journals & conferences
> 
> How long till someone marries up the PGP Web-of-Trust and LinkedIn and ISI
> impact factors / JCR and some other social media data to vet conferences as
> reputable or not?
> 
> Imagine cryptographically signing that you were at a conference and found it
> viable as a real academic interaction - or not.  And being able to mark as
> trusted/invalidating other people's evaluations of events.
> 
> And imagine how little time it would take for people to start trying to game
> such a system.  ;-)
> 
> best,
> 
> --e
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Apr 8, 2013 at 9:51 AM, Nathaniel Poor <natpoor at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/08/health/for-scientists-an-exploding-w
>> orld-of-pseudo-academia.html
>> 
>> "The scientists who were recruited to appear at a conference called
>> Entomology-2013 thought they had been selected to make a presentation 
>> to the leading professional association of scientists who study 
>> insects. But they found out the hard way that they were wrong...."
>> 
>> This has been a problem for a while, but now it's big enough to be a 
>> newspaper story.
>> 
>> -------------------------------
>> Nathaniel Poor, Ph.D.
>> http://natpoor.blogspot.com/
>> https://sites.google.com/site/natpoor/
>> 
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