[Air-L] Open access and academia.edu

Scott MacLeod scott at scottmacleod.com
Tue Dec 10 11:07:56 PST 2013 

Hi Natalie and All, 

Thanks for this article ... 

Sample, Ian. 2013. [ http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/09/nobel-winner-boycott-science-journals Nobel winner declares boycott of top science journals: Randy Schekman says his lab will no longer send 
papers to Nature, Cell and Science as they distort scientific process]. Monday 9. Manchester, England: The Guardian. ...  

which I added to the following wiki subjects at World University and School, as an example of open access and academia.edu (also added you in academia.edu with my academia.edu URL below) ... 

Academic Journals at WUaS - 
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Academic_Journals_at_WUaS#World_University_and_School_Links ...

Intellectual Property - IP Law - 
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Intellectual_Property_-_IP_Law#World_University_and_School_Links - 


Open Access Resources -  
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Open_Access_Resources#World_University_and_School_Links - 

Science - 
http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Science#World_University_and_School_Links - 


I just enjoyed revisiting another article from Ian Sample in a similar vein from last year in the Academic Journals at WUaS ... 

Sample, Ian. 2012. [ http://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/apr/24/harvard-university-journal-publishers-prices Harvard University says it can't afford journal publishers' prices: University wants scientists to make 
their research open access and resign from publications that keep articles behind paywalls]. April 24. Manchester, UK: The Guardian.

Thanks again. 

Cheers, 
Scott

http://scottmacleod.com/
https://worlduniversityandschool.academia.edu/ScottMacLeod





On Tue 10/12/13  1:29 AM , Natalie Sappleton N.Sappleton at mmu.ac.uk sent:
> Dear all
> 
> A timely contribution in todays Guardian:
> 
> Randy Schekman, who receives the Nobel prize on Tuesday, explains why he's
> eschewing the 'luxury' journals in favour of Open Access.
> http://www.theguardian.com/science/2013/dec/09/nobel-winner-boy
> cott-science-journals
> Natalie
> 
> On 9 Dec 2013, at 22:59, "Scott MacLeod"
> <scott at scottmacleod.com<scott@
> scottmacleod.com>> wrote:
> Hi Mathieu and AoIR,
> 
> As part of the free, open, Academic Journals' 'ecosystem,' here's startup,
> C.C. World University and School's Academic Journal's wiki, Subject page
> -http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Academic_Journals_at_WUaS
> #World_University_and_School_Links . World University and School
> (which is like Wikipedia with MIT OCW and planning online, C.C.
> MIT-centric, universitydegrees in many languages) is also planning to develop academic journals in
> large languages to begin. For example, at present anyone can go to any
> subject on the main, WUAS, wiki, Subjects page -http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Subjects - in
> English only (at this time), and find
> Academia.edu<http://Academia.edu> near the top, and potentially add
> the article they've written to that subject.
> Here's an example of a Subject page ... 'Open_Access_Resources' at WUaS -
> http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Open_Access_Resources - and as a C.C. wiki, anyone can start a Subject page in an area
> they're interestedin, using this SUBJECT TEMPLATE - http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/SUBJECT_TEMPLATE - or similar, which currently includes
> Academia.edu<http://Academia.edu>, since it's free and open, and
> makes it possible for academics to self-publish.
> 
> Have AoIR-ers seen Harvard computer science Professor Stuart Shieber's
> recent blog entry " Thoughts on founding open-access journals,"
> which I've added to this WUaS Open Access Resources' subject using a
> version ofthe AAA citation approach:
> 
> Shieber, Stuart. 2013. [http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2013/11/21/thoughts-on-fo
> unding-open-access-journals/ Thoughts on founding open-access
> journals<http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2013/11/21/thoughts-on-fo
> unding-open-access-journals/%20Thoughts%20on%20founding%20open-a
> ccess%20journals>]. November 21. Brookline, MA:blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2013/11/21/thoughts-on-founding-open-access-
> journals/<http://blogs.law.harvard.edu/pamphlet/2013/11/21/thoughts-on-fo
> unding-open-access-journals/>.
> Stuart Shieber is one of the leading, tenured academic voices for open
> access journals, and writing very sensibly.
> As startup World University and School develops and begins to accredit for
> university degrees, WUaS's approaches to online journals will move beyond
> Academia.edu<http://Academia.edu>'s approach, particularly
> with respect to the editorialBoard per Stuart Shieber's article.
> 
> (A huge project, wiki WUaS seeks to begin the MIT / Harvard of the internet
> and in all 7,105 languages and 242 countries, and Wikipedia, by way of
> comparison, is in 287 languages and just developed and deployed a CCdatabase, Wikidata. And WUaS plans to become a significant employer
> eventually, first hiring graduate students from greatest universities, if
> possible, as journal editors, and instructors in G+ Hangouts for example,
> to MITfaculty in MIT OCW in video).
> 
> I think Elsevier and Academia.edu<http://Academia.edu> will continue to pursue
> their publishing strategies, but make questions of Copyright and Creative
> Commons' licensing (http://worlduniversity.wikia.com/wiki/Creative_Commons_Law#Worl
> d_University_and_School_Links ) more significant.
> 
> Best,
> Scott
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> - Scott MacLeod - Founder & President
> - http://scottmacleod.com/worlduniversityandschool.html- World University and School - like Wikipedia with MIT OpenCourseWare (not
> endorsed by MIT OCW) - incorporated as a nonprofit effective April
> 2010.
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon 09/12/13  1:49 PM , Mathieu ONeil mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au<math
> ieu.oneil at anu.edu.au> sent:Hi Ivan
> 
> Thanks for explaining! ;-) Well yes, pretty much everything you do
> onlinecan be tracked, measured and sold (if that's what you mean by
> "control"). Nothing mysterious about that. Facebook and
> academia.edu<http://academia.edu> have the same model (they
> even look the same): you providecontent, we network it. It's a trade-off. If anyone can set up a
> non-commercial alternative that offers the same functionalities, I'll
> jumpin right away (@Rob: I'm looking at you!).
> Re. open-access, at the risk of repetition: if you just have volunteers
> (asmost open access journals do) then you will have inconsistent
> proof-readingand hence mistakes and errors (not all researchers can copy-edit or
> proofread well, particularly when English is not their first language).
> Maybe a slip in text quality is the price to pay? So yes, pools of
> university-run journals could pay proofreaders... in the current
> climatenot sure many will go down that path.
> cheers
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> ________________________________________
> From: Iván [ivan.cha
> ar at gmail.com<ar at gmail.com
> >]Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 8:26To: Mathieu ONeil
> Cc: Jonathan Sterne, Dr.; <air-l
> @listserv.aoir.org<http://listserv.aoir.org>>Subject: Re: [Air-L]
> Open access and academia.edu<http://academia.edu>
> Dear colleagues,
> 
> I have been following this thread with interest and I would like to
> thankyou all for the discussion.
> Mathieu, I think the walled garden Jonathan is suggeting goes beyond
> notions of ease of access. After all, new media devices and social
> mediaare usually designed for easy use. However, this ease is tied to
> obfuscatory operations whereby control, data collection and other
> procedures are 'hidden' from 'plainview.' I think it is our task to
> interrogate these obfuscations.
> Though I use academia.edu<http://academia.edu>, this conversation has
> pushed me to reconsiderhow I present my research while contributing to free and open access.
> Also, thank you for posting the titles of good open access journals.
> 
> Best,
> Iván Chaar-López
> PhD Student
> Department of American Culture
> University of Michigan
> @multitudenred
> 
> On Dec 9, 2013, at 3:46 PM, Mathieu ONeil <math
> ieu.oneil at anu.edu.au<ieu.onei
> l at anu.edu.au>> wrote:>Hi Jonathan
> 
> You probably should stop changing the title of
> the messages: breaks the thread :-)> The garden wall does not seem
> unscaleable,anyone can create an account on academia...>
> cheers
> Mathieu
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________________> From:
> air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org<air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org>
> [air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org<air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org>] on behalf of Jonathan Sterne,
> Dr.[jon
> athan.sterne at mcgill.ca<athan.
> sterne at mcgill.ca>]> Sent: Tuesday, December 10, 2013 7:07To: <air-l
> @listserv.aoir.org<http://listserv.aoir.org>>>
> Subject: [Air-L] Open access andacademia.edu<http://academia.edu>>Just to be clear for Matthieu, my point wasn't
> about services  and whether people like academia.edu<http://academia.edu> or not.  Many of mycolleagues love it.  My concern is profit models and ethical and social
> obligations, especially differences between theirs and mine.  The
> walledgarden is reason enough for me not to opt in.  I have managed to
> continuediscovering good new work without it.>
> On the services front, just a big +1 to the
> points from Daren and Rex.>
> Also: if you want open access journals to have
> higher impact factors, don't just submit to them, read the and cite
> them.>
> And one more thing: those of us who write tenure
> reviews also need to take time in our letters to argue for the
> significanceof new publishing models when junior scholars take advantage of
> them.>
> Jonathan
> 
> PS -- Still, I also believe there is a place for
> university and independent presses: they do a lot of useful work for
> authors and for readers.  Even the most committed digital humanists are
> still writing books, as are many social scientists who want to reach
> wideraudiences.  And funding for good open access journals remains an
> issue.> --
> http://sterneworks.org> (apologies for iPad
> typos.)
> On Dec 9, 2013, at 9:38, Matthieu
> "air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org<air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org>"
> <air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org<air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org>> wrote:>>iefly: not sure about comparing the enormous
> fees charged by Elsevier etc to a free service like Academia. Now,
> grantedthat Academia.edu<http://Academia.edu> may be profiting off users,
> but - apart from its socialnetworking functions - it does provide services since it tells you
> (amongstother things) (1) when people search for your work, what search terms
> theyuse, where they come from; (2) how many times subscribers have
> downloadedspecific items; (3) when people upload content that you are interested
> in.If it did not do those things people would not use it>
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