[Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu

[Deborah Lupton]

Yes, Sonia, and this is definitely a problem. It is particular to the UK
context because of the way the Finch report decreed how OA should proceed
by making the distinction between green and gold and promoting the latter
over the former. This is not the case in Australia at present.

Deborah


On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:29 AM, <S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk> wrote:

> Forgive me if this point was already made, but in the UK the main concerns
> are about differences (inequalities) in access to funding (by career stage,
> gender, discipline, etc) now extending inequalities in the realm of
> publication.
>
> Sonia Livingstone
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org [mailto:
> air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Deborah Lupton
> Sent: 12 December 2013 19:26
> To: Mathieu ONeil
> Cc: <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu
>
> Hi Mathieu
>
> The ARC at least (not sure about the NHMRC) now has a budget item where
> you can ask for funds to publish in open access journals (gold OA). But
> they also support green (free) OA initiatives (such as publishing
> postprints on university e-repositories) and this is seen as meeting their
> requirements for OA publication. The ARC website has details on their
> policy on this.
>
> I do think that the ARC hasn't fully thought through all the implications
> of mandating OA, however (what about books written from ARC funding, for
> example?), and agree that it should be looking into supporting green OA
> initiatives more proactively.
>
> Cheers
>
> Deborah
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 13, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Mathieu ONeil <mathieu.oneil at anu.edu.au
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi Deborah, all
> >
> > That's a really good point but it begs the question: how exactly do
> > these funding bodies define "[providing] funds for the open access
> > publishing of materials produced from research they fund"? Does this
> > mean setting aside extra money to pay for so-called "open access" from
> > the likes of Elsevier (at the tune of $2-3,000 per article...). Or
> > does this mean supporting the open sourcing of research by new means?
> > If the former (which is much
> > easier: just set aside this amount) then it is not really addressing
> > the exploitative nature of the research community / commercial
> > publisher relationship.
> >
> > cheers,
> > Mathieu
> > ________________________________________
> > From: air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
> > [air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] on behalf of Deborah Lupton
> > [deborah.lupton at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, December 13, 2013 7:18
> > To: nickjan
> > Cc: <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elsevier and academia.edu
> >
> > As I'm sure discussants in Australia know, research funding bodies in
> > Australia have also begun to mandate and provide funds for the open
> > access publishing of materials produced from research they fund,
> > including the two major funding bodies. This has begun to change the
> > culture in universities here concerning open access. My university
> > held at least two forums on open access publishing this year in the
> > attempt to inform academics about the ins-and-outs of OA.
> >
> > Deborah
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 12, 2013 at 9:20 PM, nickjan <nickjan at xs4all.nl> wrote:
> >
> > > All:
> > >
> > > The Scholarly Kitchen (collective blog for the Society for Scholarly
> > > Publishing) has just posted an insightful analysis of the Elsevier -
> > > Academia.edu saga, entitled "The End of an Era for Academia.edu and
> > > Other Academic Networks?" Available at:
> > >
> > > http://scholarlykitchen.sspnet.org/2013/12/11/has-
> > > elsevier-signaled-a-new-era-for-academia-edu-and-other-
> > > professional-networks/
> > >
> > > As pointed out in the post, many of the comments to a recent article
> > > in The Chronicle of Higher Education (http://chronicle.com/blogs/
> > > wiredcampus/posting-your-latest-article-you-might-have-
> > > to-take-it-down/48865) are particularly astute....
> > >
> > > Nick Jankowski
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> Deborah Lupton
> Currently Senior Principal Research Fellow (Professor) Department of
> Sociology and Social Policy University of Sydney
>
> *From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor* *Faculty of Arts and
> Design, University of Canberra*
>
> *New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012);
> *Fat*(Routledge, 2012);
> *Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the
> Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013,
> Open Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology*
> (forthcoming, Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological Life'<
> http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and Tweet @DALupton.
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Deborah Lupton
Currently Senior Principal Research Fellow (Professor)
Department of Sociology and Social Policy
University of Sydney

*From 10 February 2014: Centenary Research Professor*
*Faculty of Arts and Design, University of Canberra*

*New books*: *Medicine as Culture* (3rd revised edition, Sage, 2012);
*Fat*(Routledge, 2012);
*Risk* (2nd revised edition, Routledge, 2013); *The Social Worlds of the
Unborn* (2013, Palgrave Macmillan); *The Unborn Human* (edited) (2013, Open
Humanities Press). Currently working on *Digital Sociology* (forthcoming,
Routledge). I blog at 'This Sociological
Life'<http://simplysociology.wordpress.com> and
Tweet @DALupton.