[Air-L] SPIR and IR and internet research and submission policies (was Re: AoIR 14 Announcement. Extended Deadline and More)

[Gordon Carlson]

Hi All,

Unless I am missing something the template is just a matter of the document
format, not an entire submission system, correct?  Along with what Steve
notes, could it be as simple as "only those submissions using the template
will be considered for SPIR but all (traditional and rational) formats will
accepted for the conference at large?  Does a separate system/set of
formats need to be in place?

Thanks,
Gordon Carlson


On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 5:02 PM, Steve Jones <sjones at uic.edu> wrote:

> Is there an option to provide options? That is, those who wish to submit
> their work in a particular format under particular circumstances such as
> SPIR could do so, and another option could be available akin to previous
> conferences?
>
> I realize this probably won't be possible for this year's conference, and
> that it's more work to have more options. I understand the reasoning for
> the guidelines this year, and would like to point out that part of the
> spirit of AoIR is to try new things, and, presumably, keep doing things
> that work well, and in time perhaps there will be a hybrid. I'd also like
> to point out that another part of the spirit of AoIR is to contribute to
> the effort. Perhaps we can brainstorm options to make the conference
> submission and review process work better still, and then, most
> importantly, turn our ideas into actions.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Steve
>
> On Feb 25, 2013, at 1:39 PM, Burcu Bakioglu <bbakiogl at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If I may interject on this graduate submission issue for a second here,
> > because it is a valid concern:
> >
> > I've seen this at IAMCR and am involved in it in a minor capacity in
> terms
> > of reviewing abstracts... As a part of this organization, seasoned
> students
> > have created Emerging Scholars Network. This group has their own separate
> > track. Graduate students could send their submissions in to this track
> and,
> > from what I have seen, the submissions here have a slightly more flexible
> > acceptance standards. That way, they learn the ropes, get to present
> their
> > research if it is any good, and meet people when they come in. The
> > organization also provides mentorship, matches profs with grad students
> > etc...
> >
> > So, I hear Jeremy's concern and the need to maintain some kind of a
> quality
> > in submissions, but we could consider building something like this within
> > the AoIR organization. And by "we," I mean encouraging senior grad
> students
> > to take the initiative to do so. It is for their best interest anyway,
> the
> > organizers can put this in their CV under service. Students who
> participate
> > in it would meet like minded people build their networks, get the support
> > they need, train on how to write their abstracts and present them in
> > conferences etc...
> >
> > My very long-winded two cents :)
> >
> > BsB
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 25, 2013 at 12:45 PM, Jeremy hunsinger <jhunsinger at wlu.ca
> >wrote:
> >
> >>> So, with some of the context set, I'll try to address the concerns:
> >>>
> >>> 1. The length of submission is too long.
> >>>
> >>> I suppose one way we could address this is to remove the lower bound
> >>> on the word count. It seems in some sense notional but it seems
> >>> strange to change things right ahead of the deadline. Would this put
> >>> one's 600 word abstract at a disadvantage to someone who has submitted
> >>> 1,100 words. I suspect it would.
> >>>
> >>> If I am reading correctly, I think that Jeremy is suggesting that the
> >>> increase in the number of words will systematically exclude graduate
> >>> students. I can't imagine that graduate students are any less capable
> >>> of producing 400 more words. I personally am probably less capable of
> >>> that now than when I was a grad student. We could, I suppose, ask
> >>> Sheizaf Rafaeli whether the 1,000 word cap for IR5.0 resulted in a
> >>> reduced number of graduate submissions. If it did, I don't think I
> >>> noticed it.
> >>
> >> I did not mean imply that, but what I did imply is that the number of
> >> student acceptances has seemed to diminish over the year.  However,
> >> here i return to the professionalization question.  People who are
> >> more competent at producing abstracts for conferences tend to get into
> >> more conferences.  That is a skill set that is learned, so newer
> >> people to the profession tend to have less access than older people.
> >> The more words that we require them to write opens up more
> >> possibilities for someone to write something that will get them
> >> rejected.  Are we accepting or rejecting more of any one category of
> >> people, surely those statistics exist and are things that are
> >> discussed by the executive.
> >>
> >> The question in the end is what are we, organizationally, supporting
> >> by requiring more and more, combined with stricter modes of
> >> production?  I understand the arguments you put forth, but I want to
> >> suggest that there are other implications to the system being put
> >> forth than you suggest too.  I argue that the new system ads
> >> additional disciplinarity and requires additional professionalization.
> >> Those things are, i think going to be antagonistic to
> >> interdisciplinarity, grad student participation, and international
> >> participation in the short and long run.  But i could be wrong, but I
> >> would be remiss to not point out that possibility and warn against it.
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> >
> >
> > --
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Burcu S. Bakioglu, Ph.D.
> > Postdoctoral Fellow in New Media
> > Lawrence University
> >
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Gordon Carlson
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