[Air-L] physical/digital worlds
Tacli Yazicioglu
tacli at superonline.com
Mon Feb 11 04:14:26 PST 2013
For online data collection Robert V. Kozinet's Netnography (2010) must be
the source as he is both the founder of the method and the first academic
who published in online ethnography in 1996.
On 2/11/13 1:00 AM, "air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org"
<air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>Send Air-L mailing list submissions to
> air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>
>To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org
>
>You can reach the person managing the list at
> air-l-owner at listserv.aoir.org
>
>When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>than "Re: Contents of Air-L digest..."
>
>
>Today's Topics:
>
> 1. physical/digital worlds (Baker, Andrea)
> 2. Re: physical/digital worlds (Natalya Godbold)
> 3. Re: internet/flesh "realms" (Tom Boellstorff)
> 4. Re: physical/digital worlds (Charles Ess)
> 5. Re: physical/digital worlds (Mark C. Lashley)
> 6. Re: physical/digital worlds (Peter Gloviczki)
>
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Message: 1
>Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 18:54:27 -0500
>From: "Baker, Andrea" <bakera at ohio.edu>
>To: "air-l at listserv.aoir.org" <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>Subject: [Air-L] physical/digital worlds
>Message-ID: <C9C537E8-1ED3-4524-899C-CB4BB2C4A9D9 at ohio.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
>Hi, everyone,
>
>Thanks so much for all your help, from those of you commenting both here
>in the list and off of it.
>
>Yes, Barry, it was Nathan Jurgenson's work that first inspired me to
>carry on with my current project, sorry I didn't mention knowing about
>it. I also consulted with him initially, well before posting my inquiry.
> Nathan and PJ Rey are running their third Theorizing the Web
>conference, this year in NYC.
>
>Of course, much work has dealt with the issue some, including mine on
>relationships, identities and communities, and thanks for your own
>important list of contributions, your references. Thankfully there is
>now such a wealth of writing and research available. However, some of us
>think we still have a way to go in, to use your words, "flesh"-ing out
>dimensions of the processes. There's really still much more to say about
>it at this time, imo. Most these days seem to not only accept that
>online/mobile/cmc interaction is real but that it is less discrete from
>other activities than many of us early internet researchers and private
>citizens had originally conceived, and experienced back then.
>
>Anyone else who has specific references, please feel free to continue
>sending them to me and/or posting them.
>
>Here are my original questions previously posted to the aoirlist. I'm
>hoping the formatting is better this time:
>"For a piece I'm preparing on interaction back and forth between online
>and offline or from digital to physical worlds and back, I'm looking for
>references about how that works for people, especially those who are
>members of online communities.
>
>More than particular data to show this communication in process, although
>that is good too, I want to conceptualize themovement, the "flow" from
>one realm to another, to describe what is happening. Also, how does the
>online communication, including that through mobile phones, affect the
>offline interaction, and how do the offline encounters affect what goes
>on inside the online communities and in other social media containing
>some of the same people interacting offline. This project is part of my
>music fan research on fan communities, identities, and relationships.
>I'm already aware of the articles in the first issue of Mobile Media and
>Communication (January, 2013), and of Lauren Sessions-Goulet's excellent
>paper of a few years back on offline meetings and online communities, and
>have a few other helpful sources. I've done a body of work on romantic
>online relationships so I understand many of the dynamics there.
>
>Please feel free to write off list or on. Thanks so much in advance!
>cheers,
>andee (andrea baker)"
>
>thanks! --a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 2
>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 11:33:02 +1100
>From: Natalya Godbold <ngodbold at gmail.com>
>To: "Baker, Andrea" <bakera at ohio.edu>, air-l at aoir.org
>Subject: Re: [Air-L] physical/digital worlds
>Message-ID:
> <CALu7UUaKP5M0gHs3VVCWVVuLvnCcXtb5F3o2TPtS85tsHwNdvw at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>You might find this useful?
>Orgad, S. (2009). Question Two: How can researchers make sense of the
>issues involved in collecting and interpreting online and offline data?
>Internet inquiry : conversations about method. A. N. Markham and N. K.
>Baym. Los Angeles, Sage Publications: 33-53.
>
>
>On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 10:54 AM, Baker, Andrea <bakera at ohio.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi, everyone,
>>
>> Thanks so much for all your help, from those of you commenting both here
>> in the list and off of it.
>>
>> Yes, Barry, it was Nathan Jurgenson's work that first inspired me to
>>carry
>> on with my current project, sorry I didn't mention knowing about it. I
>> also consulted with him initially, well before posting my inquiry.
>>Nathan
>> and PJ Rey are running their third Theorizing the Web conference, this
>>year
>> in NYC.
>>
>> Of course, much work has dealt with the issue some, including mine on
>> relationships, identities and communities, and thanks for your own
>> important list of contributions, your references. Thankfully there is
>>now
>> such a wealth of writing and research available. However, some of us
>>think
>> we still have a way to go in, to use your words, "flesh"-ing out
>>dimensions
>> of the processes. There's really still much more to say about it at
>>this
>> time, imo. Most these days seem to not only accept that
>>online/mobile/cmc
>> interaction is real but that it is less discrete from other activities
>>than
>> many of us early internet researchers and private citizens had
>>originally
>> conceived, and experienced back then.
>>
>> Anyone else who has specific references, please feel free to continue
>> sending them to me and/or posting them.
>>
>> Here are my original questions previously posted to the aoirlist. I'm
>> hoping the formatting is better this time:
>> "For a piece I'm preparing on interaction back and forth between online
>> and offline or from digital to physical worlds and back, I'm looking for
>> references about how that works for people, especially those who are
>> members of online communities.
>>
>> More than particular data to show this communication in process,
>>although
>> that is good too, I want to conceptualize themovement, the "flow" from
>>one
>> realm to another, to describe what is happening. Also, how does the
>>online
>> communication, including that through mobile phones, affect the offline
>> interaction, and how do the offline encounters affect what goes on
>>inside
>> the online communities and in other social media containing some of the
>> same people interacting offline. This project is part of my music fan
>> research on fan communities, identities, and relationships.
>> I'm already aware of the articles in the first issue of Mobile Media and
>> Communication (January, 2013), and of Lauren Sessions-Goulet's excellent
>> paper of a few years back on offline meetings and online communities,
>>and
>> have a few other helpful sources. I've done a body of work on romantic
>> online relationships so I understand many of the dynamics there.
>>
>> Please feel free to write off list or on. Thanks so much in advance!
>> cheers,
>> andee (andrea baker)"
>>
>> thanks! --a
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>
>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>> http://www.aoir.org/
>>
>
>
>
>--
>Natalya Godbold
>PhD Candidate (Human Information Behaviour / Health Communication)
>Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences
>University of Technology, Sydney
>
>Autonomous, Responsible, Alone (Interdisciplinary Press):
>https://www.interdisciplinarypress.net/online-store/medical-humanities/aut
>onomous-alone-responsible
>Social Information Research (Emerald)
>http://www.emeraldinsight.com/books.htm?issn=1876-0562&volume=5
>
>
>
>
>?`~.. ?><((((?>?. .~??`~.. ?><((((?>?. .~??`~.. ?><((((?>?.
>.><((((?>`~.??.~??`~.?.~??`~...?><((((?> .,,.~??`~.. ?><((((?>?.
>.....,,.><((((?>`~.??.~??`~.?.~??`~...?><((((?> .~??`~.. ?><((((?>?.
>.,,.~??`~.. ?><((((?>?. .~??`~..
>
>
>
>
>
>UTS CRICOS Provider Code: 00099F
>DISCLAIMER: This email message and any accompanying attachments may
>contain
>confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, do not
>read, use, disseminate, distribute or copy this message or attachments.
>If
>you have received this message in error, please notify the sender
>immediately and delete this message. Any views expressed in this message
>are those of the individual sender, except where the sender expressly, and
>with authority, states them to be the views of the University of
>Technology
>Sydney. Before opening any attachments, please check them for viruses and
>defects.
>
>Think. Green. Do.
>
>Please consider the environment before printing this email.
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 3
>Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 17:06:20 -0800
>From: Tom Boellstorff <tboellst at uci.edu>
>To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>Subject: Re: [Air-L] internet/flesh "realms"
>Message-ID: <070E9757-2E54-493B-92AC-662549A84576 at uci.edu>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
>In terms of the internet/flesh "realms" issue - this is something I'm
>going to working on quite a bit I hope, and I discuss it in some detail
>in "Rethinking Digital Anthropology" (In Digital Anthropology. Heather A.
>Horst and Daniel Miller, editors. Pp. 39?60. London: Berg, 2012.)
>
>For details, goto http://faculty.sites.uci.edu/boellstorff/publications/
>
>
>On Feb 9, 2013, at 3:01 PM, air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org wrote:
>
>> Send Air-L mailing list submissions to
>> air-l at listserv.aoir.org
>>
>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
>> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>> air-l-request at listserv.aoir.org
>>
>> You can reach the person managing the list at
>> air-l-owner at listserv.aoir.org
>>
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
>> than "Re: Contents of Air-L digest..."
>>
>>
>> Today's Topics:
>>
>> 1. internet/flesh "realms" (Barry Wellman)
>>
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Sat, 9 Feb 2013 14:34:58 -0500
>> From: Barry Wellman <wellman at chass.utoronto.ca>
>> To: aoir list <air-l at aoir.org>
>> Subject: [Air-L] internet/flesh "realms"
>> Message-ID:
>> <Pine.SGI.4.64.1302091427571.28287808 at origin.chass.utoronto.ca>
>> Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>>
>> There's been a lot written and researched on this already.
>> But the issue keeps coming on. (I really wish scholarship were more
>> cumulative.)
>>
>> In addition to the items posted in the previous AoIR list, may I suggest
>>
>> Nathan Jurgenson's theoretical essays on "digital dualism", such as
>>
>>http://thesocietypages.org/cyborgology/2011/09/13/digital-dualism-and-the
>>-fallacy-of-web-objectivity/
>>
>> The Rainie-Wellman _Networked_ book, especially Part II
>>
>>http://www.amazon.com/Networked-New-Social-Operating-System/dp/0262017199
>>/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1325258020&sr=1-1
>>
>> which itself picks up on writing I've done for 15 years, such as
>>
>> "An Electronic Group is Virtually a Social Network"
>> "Physical Place and Cyber Place: The Rise of Personalized Networking"
>> ""Personal Relationships: On and Off the Internet" (with Jeff Boase)
>> "Social Connectivity in America" with Hua (Helen) Wang
>>
>> all get-able on my website
>> http://homes.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman/publications/index.html
>>
>> Enjoy,
>> Barry Wellman
>> _______________________________________________________________________
>>
>> S.D. Clark Professor of Sociology, FRSC NetLab Director
>> Department of Sociology 725 Spadina Avenue, Room 388
>> University of Toronto Toronto Canada M5S 2J4 twitter:@barrywellman
>> http://www.chass.utoronto.ca/~wellman fax:+1-416-978-3963
>> NETWORKED:The New Social Operating System. Lee Rainie & Barry Wellman
>> MIT Press http://amzn.to/zXZg39 Print $19; Kindle $16
>> Old/newCybertimes http://bit.ly/c8N9V8 It's still rock & roll to me
>>
>>
>>________________________________________________________________________
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>>http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>
>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>> http://www.aoir.org/
>>
>> End of Air-L Digest, Vol 103, Issue 10
>> **************************************
>>
>
>
>
>
>tom boellstorff/professor/department of anthropology/university of
>california/irvine/website
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 4
>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 05:32:31 +0100
>From: Charles Ess <charles.ess at gmail.com>
>To: "Baker, Andrea" <bakera at ohio.edu>, Air list
> <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>Subject: Re: [Air-L] physical/digital worlds
>Message-ID: <CD3CE16F.56F4E%charles.ess at gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
>Hi Andrea and colleagues,
>Two sorts of quick suggestions -
>
>1. In the direction of the history of the broader conceptualizations of
>the
>relationships/interactions you describe:
>A) partly by way of invoking both Barry Wellman's taxonomy of "the three
>ages of Internet Studies" and Heidi Campbell's similar taxonomy of three
>waves of research on religion online (both in Consalvo and Ess, The
>Handbook
>of Internet Studies, Blackwell, 2011), I developed an overview chapter on
>the history of the virtual/online //
>actual-real-material-"meatspace"/offline distinctions-relationships for
>our
>2011 anthology:
>Self, Community, and Ethics in Digital Mediatized Worlds.? In C. Ess and
>M.
>Thorseth, eds., Trust and Virtual Worlds: Contemporary Perspectives,
>3-30.?
>Oxford: Peter Lang, 2011.
>B) For a variety of reasons, AoIRists will likely want to also be aware
>generally of the now publicized results of the Onlife Initiative, a
>European
>Commission "Digital Futures" project -
><https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/onlife-initiative>.
>Broadly, the project sought to move us conceptually further down the road
>regarding the basic assumptions that have undergirded most of our
>thinking,
>research, and policy-making in conjunction with, e.g., "the information
>society" over past several decades. As the phrase "onlife" is meant to
>suggest, the once hard (with the usual caveats) distinctions asserted
>between "the online" and "offline life" have been (largely) shifted
>towards
>strong interrelationality (a point that is now made in many, many ways, of
>course, but is also one of the characterizations of the third Age / Wave
>in
>Campbell and Wellman's taxonomies).
>In addition to what the Onlife Manifesto articulates in terms of
>developing
>new conceptual approaches towards what is characterized as a
>hyperconnected
>era, AoIRists may find some of the background papers that contributed to
>the
>development of the manifesto helpful as well:
><https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/onlife-web-output>
>
>2. In terms of more specific analyses, I find especially helpful
>A) Lomborg, Stine. Negotiating Privacy Through Phatic Communication: A
>Case
>Study of the Blogging Self. Philosophy and Technology 25 (2012):415?434.
>DOI
>10.1007/s13347-011-0018-7.
>Stine draws on Simmel's understanding of the sociable self - i.e., as
>first
>used to theorize and describe "offline" sociabilities - to analyze
>interactions and negotiations online between a prominent blogger and her
>readers/respondents. This analysis I found to be particularly useful in a
>number of ways, beginning with the details Stine careful documents of the
>negotiations between those engaged with the blog, as these negotiations
>involve perspective-taking and phatic communication that work to both
>preserve individual privacy while simultaneously constructing and
>maintaining the shared personal space (in Danish and other Germanic
>language, the _intimsf?re_ - the "intimate sphere" of close(r/est)
>relationships) online. These details, among other things, show how such
>online processes are extremely similar to their offline counterparts -
>again, challenging especially 1990s' tendencies towards hard dualisms
>between the online and the offline.
>More broadly - though this may take you beyond your primary focus -
>Stine's
>work thereby provides an empirically-grounded analysis that fits with both
>other similar work in Internet Studies as well as in contemporary
>philosophy
>on identity and, most basically, conceptions/assumptions regarding
>selfhood
>- hence the article's inclusion in this special issue of the journal
>Philosophy and Technology, as dedicated to these matters.
>For the introduction:
>?At the Intersections Between Internet Studies and Philosophy: ?Who Am I
>Online?? (Introduction to special issue), Philosophy & Technology: Volume
>25, Issue 3: (September, 2012): 275-284. DOI 10.1007/s13347-012-0085-4.
>
>(In these directions - of course, "the networked self" from Wellman and
>Haythornthwaite has worked prominently over the past decade, e.g., most
>recently in Julie Cohen's 2012 _Configuring the Networked Self: Law, Code,
>and the Play of Everyday Practice_. New Haven: Yale University Press.
><http://www.juliecohen.com/page5.php>. At the same time, however, still
>more strongly relational notions of selfhood have been emerging in
>neurobiology (e.g., enactivism, the embodied mind, and other umbrella
>terms)
>and ethics (beginning with ecological ethics and feminist ethics / ethics
>of
>care - now with feminist concepts of "relational autonomy" and parallel
>notions of distributed epistemic and ethical responsibility). Such
>strongly
>relational emphases, most broadly, appear to have been characteristic of
>notions of selfhood in the pre-modern "West" and still typically function
>strongly in societies shaped by Confucian and Buddhist traditions, for
>example.
>What's of interest here regarding ethics is how such relational selves
>draw
>on virtue ethics: hence the importance of Shannon Vallor's work on virtue
>ethics vis-a-vis social networking - most recently, Social Networking and
>Ethics. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2012 Edition),
>Edward N. Zalta (ed.), forthcoming URL =
><http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2012/entries/ethics-social-networki
>ng
>/>.
>As well, the relational emphases in several Confucian and Buddhist
>societies
>appear to be shift towards more individual emphases, e.g.,
>Hansen, Mette Halskov and Rune Svarverud (eds.). 2010. The Rise of the
>Individual in Modern Chinese Society, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of
>Asian
>Studies.)
>
>For my part, I find the "flow" you refer to helpfully analyzed especially
>from phenomenologically-informed frameworks (where such flow experiences
>are
>initially described in offline contexts) as well as, classically, in
>Cs?kszentmih?lyi et al. I know there's some work along these lines in
>Game
>Studies, for example, and, when I get a few more minutes, can cobble
>together a list of those references. In the meantime, someone(s) else on
>this list may have such a bibliography ready to hand?
>
>In any event, hope some of this is of some use - and hope to hear more
>about
>your work at AoIR in Denver!
>
>Best,
>- charles
>Associate Professor in Media Studies
>Department of Media and Communication
>
>Director, Centre for Research on Media Innovations
><http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/research/center/media-innovations/>
>
>University of Oslo
>P.O. Box 1093 Blindern
>NO-0317
>Oslo Norway
>email: charles.ess at media.uio.no
>
>
>
>
>On 10.02.13 00:54, "Baker, Andrea" <bakera at ohio.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hi, everyone,
>>
>> Thanks so much for all your help, from those of you commenting both
>>here in
>> the list and off of it.
>>
>> Yes, Barry, it was Nathan Jurgenson's work that first inspired me to
>>carry on
>> with my current project, sorry I didn't mention knowing about it. I
>>also
>> consulted with him initially, well before posting my inquiry. Nathan
>>and PJ
>> Rey are running their third Theorizing the Web conference, this year in
>>NYC.
>>
>> Of course, much work has dealt with the issue some, including mine on
>> relationships, identities and communities, and thanks for your own
>>important
>> list of contributions, your references. Thankfully there is now such a
>>wealth
>> of writing and research available. However, some of us think we still
>>have a
>> way to go in, to use your words, "flesh"-ing out dimensions of the
>>processes.
>> There's really still much more to say about it at this time, imo. Most
>>these
>> days seem to not only accept that online/mobile/cmc interaction is real
>>but
>> that it is less discrete from other activities than many of us early
>>internet
>> researchers and private citizens had originally conceived, and
>>experienced
>> back then.
>>
>> Anyone else who has specific references, please feel free to continue
>>sending
>> them to me and/or posting them.
>>
>> Here are my original questions previously posted to the aoirlist. I'm
>>hoping
>> the formatting is better this time:
>> "For a piece I'm preparing on interaction back and forth between online
>>and
>> offline or from digital to physical worlds and back, I'm looking for
>> references about how that works for people, especially those who are
>>members
>> of online communities.
>>
>> More than particular data to show this communication in process,
>>although that
>> is good too, I want to conceptualize themovement, the "flow" from one
>>realm to
>> another, to describe what is happening. Also, how does the online
>> communication, including that through mobile phones, affect the offline
>> interaction, and how do the offline encounters affect what goes on
>>inside the
>> online communities and in other social media containing some of the same
>> people interacting offline. This project is part of my music fan
>>research on
>> fan communities, identities, and relationships.
>> I'm already aware of the articles in the first issue of Mobile Media and
>> Communication (January, 2013), and of Lauren Sessions-Goulet's
>>excellent paper
>> of a few years back on offline meetings and online communities, and
>>have a few
>> other helpful sources. I've done a body of work on romantic online
>> relationships so I understand many of the dynamics there.
>>
>> Please feel free to write off list or on. Thanks so much in advance!
>> cheers,
>> andee (andrea baker)"
>>
>> thanks! --a
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>
>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>> http://www.aoir.org/
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 5
>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 03:16:09 -0500
>From: "Mark C. Lashley" <lashley.mark at gmail.com>
>To: Charles Ess <charles.ess at gmail.com>
>Cc: Air list <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>, "Baker, Andrea"
> <bakera at ohio.edu>
>Subject: Re: [Air-L] physical/digital worlds
>Message-ID: <DDD2503F-70B6-489A-9ED2-2CE9AECC9643 at gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
>
>
>Mark C. Lashley
>Doctoral Candidate,
>Grady College of Journalism and Mass Communication
>Graduate Assistant,
>George Foster Peabody Awards
>The University of Georgia
>Room 320, Journalism Building
>
>Email | Twitter | Academia.edu | HuffPostTV
>
>On Feb 9, 2013, at 11:32 PM, Charles Ess <charles.ess at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Andrea and colleagues,
>> Two sorts of quick suggestions -
>>
>> 1. In the direction of the history of the broader conceptualizations of
>>the
>> relationships/interactions you describe:
>> A) partly by way of invoking both Barry Wellman's taxonomy of "the three
>> ages of Internet Studies" and Heidi Campbell's similar taxonomy of three
>> waves of research on religion online (both in Consalvo and Ess, The
>>Handbook
>> of Internet Studies, Blackwell, 2011), I developed an overview chapter
>>on
>> the history of the virtual/online //
>> actual-real-material-"meatspace"/offline distinctions-relationships for
>>our
>> 2011 anthology:
>> Self, Community, and Ethics in Digital Mediatized Worlds. In C. Ess
>>and M.
>> Thorseth, eds., Trust and Virtual Worlds: Contemporary Perspectives,
>>3-30.
>> Oxford: Peter Lang, 2011.
>> B) For a variety of reasons, AoIRists will likely want to also be aware
>> generally of the now publicized results of the Onlife Initiative, a
>>European
>> Commission "Digital Futures" project -
>> <https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/onlife-initiative>.
>> Broadly, the project sought to move us conceptually further down the
>>road
>> regarding the basic assumptions that have undergirded most of our
>>thinking,
>> research, and policy-making in conjunction with, e.g., "the information
>> society" over past several decades. As the phrase "onlife" is meant to
>> suggest, the once hard (with the usual caveats) distinctions asserted
>> between "the online" and "offline life" have been (largely) shifted
>>towards
>> strong interrelationality (a point that is now made in many, many ways,
>>of
>> course, but is also one of the characterizations of the third Age /
>>Wave in
>> Campbell and Wellman's taxonomies).
>> In addition to what the Onlife Manifesto articulates in terms of
>>developing
>> new conceptual approaches towards what is characterized as a
>>hyperconnected
>> era, AoIRists may find some of the background papers that contributed
>>to the
>> development of the manifesto helpful as well:
>> <https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/onlife-web-output>
>>
>> 2. In terms of more specific analyses, I find especially helpful
>> A) Lomborg, Stine. Negotiating Privacy Through Phatic Communication: A
>>Case
>> Study of the Blogging Self. Philosophy and Technology 25
>>(2012):415?434. DOI
>> 10.1007/s13347-011-0018-7.
>> Stine draws on Simmel's understanding of the sociable self - i.e., as
>>first
>> used to theorize and describe "offline" sociabilities - to analyze
>> interactions and negotiations online between a prominent blogger and her
>> readers/respondents. This analysis I found to be particularly useful
>>in a
>> number of ways, beginning with the details Stine careful documents of
>>the
>> negotiations between those engaged with the blog, as these negotiations
>> involve perspective-taking and phatic communication that work to both
>> preserve individual privacy while simultaneously constructing and
>> maintaining the shared personal space (in Danish and other Germanic
>> language, the _intimsf?re_ - the "intimate sphere" of close(r/est)
>> relationships) online. These details, among other things, show how such
>> online processes are extremely similar to their offline counterparts -
>> again, challenging especially 1990s' tendencies towards hard dualisms
>> between the online and the offline.
>> More broadly - though this may take you beyond your primary focus -
>>Stine's
>> work thereby provides an empirically-grounded analysis that fits with
>>both
>> other similar work in Internet Studies as well as in contemporary
>>philosophy
>> on identity and, most basically, conceptions/assumptions regarding
>>selfhood
>> - hence the article's inclusion in this special issue of the journal
>> Philosophy and Technology, as dedicated to these matters.
>> For the introduction:
>> ?At the Intersections Between Internet Studies and Philosophy: ?Who Am I
>> Online?? (Introduction to special issue), Philosophy & Technology:
>>Volume
>> 25, Issue 3: (September, 2012): 275-284. DOI 10.1007/s13347-012-0085-4.
>>
>> (In these directions - of course, "the networked self" from Wellman and
>> Haythornthwaite has worked prominently over the past decade, e.g., most
>> recently in Julie Cohen's 2012 _Configuring the Networked Self: Law,
>>Code,
>> and the Play of Everyday Practice_. New Haven: Yale University Press.
>> <http://www.juliecohen.com/page5.php>. At the same time, however, still
>> more strongly relational notions of selfhood have been emerging in
>> neurobiology (e.g., enactivism, the embodied mind, and other umbrella
>>terms)
>> and ethics (beginning with ecological ethics and feminist ethics /
>>ethics of
>> care - now with feminist concepts of "relational autonomy" and parallel
>> notions of distributed epistemic and ethical responsibility). Such
>>strongly
>> relational emphases, most broadly, appear to have been characteristic of
>> notions of selfhood in the pre-modern "West" and still typically
>>function
>> strongly in societies shaped by Confucian and Buddhist traditions, for
>> example.
>> What's of interest here regarding ethics is how such relational selves
>>draw
>> on virtue ethics: hence the importance of Shannon Vallor's work on
>>virtue
>> ethics vis-a-vis social networking - most recently, Social Networking
>>and
>> Ethics. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2012 Edition),
>> Edward N. Zalta (ed.), forthcoming URL =
>>
>><http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2012/entries/ethics-social-network
>>ing
>> />.
>> As well, the relational emphases in several Confucian and Buddhist
>>societies
>> appear to be shift towards more individual emphases, e.g.,
>> Hansen, Mette Halskov and Rune Svarverud (eds.). 2010. The Rise of the
>> Individual in Modern Chinese Society, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of
>>Asian
>> Studies.)
>>
>> For my part, I find the "flow" you refer to helpfully analyzed
>>especially
>> from phenomenologically-informed frameworks (where such flow
>>experiences are
>> initially described in offline contexts) as well as, classically, in
>> Cs?kszentmih?lyi et al. I know there's some work along these lines in
>>Game
>> Studies, for example, and, when I get a few more minutes, can cobble
>> together a list of those references. In the meantime, someone(s) else on
>> this list may have such a bibliography ready to hand?
>>
>> In any event, hope some of this is of some use - and hope to hear more
>>about
>> your work at AoIR in Denver!
>>
>> Best,
>> - charles
>> Associate Professor in Media Studies
>> Department of Media and Communication
>>
>> Director, Centre for Research on Media Innovations
>> <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/research/center/media-innovations/>
>>
>> University of Oslo
>> P.O. Box 1093 Blindern
>> NO-0317
>> Oslo Norway
>> email: charles.ess at media.uio.no
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 10.02.13 00:54, "Baker, Andrea" <bakera at ohio.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>
>>> Thanks so much for all your help, from those of you commenting both
>>>here in
>>> the list and off of it.
>>>
>>> Yes, Barry, it was Nathan Jurgenson's work that first inspired me to
>>>carry on
>>> with my current project, sorry I didn't mention knowing about it. I
>>>also
>>> consulted with him initially, well before posting my inquiry. Nathan
>>>and PJ
>>> Rey are running their third Theorizing the Web conference, this year
>>>in NYC.
>>>
>>> Of course, much work has dealt with the issue some, including mine on
>>> relationships, identities and communities, and thanks for your own
>>>important
>>> list of contributions, your references. Thankfully there is now such
>>>a wealth
>>> of writing and research available. However, some of us think we still
>>>have a
>>> way to go in, to use your words, "flesh"-ing out dimensions of the
>>>processes.
>>> There's really still much more to say about it at this time, imo.
>>>Most these
>>> days seem to not only accept that online/mobile/cmc interaction is
>>>real but
>>> that it is less discrete from other activities than many of us early
>>>internet
>>> researchers and private citizens had originally conceived, and
>>>experienced
>>> back then.
>>>
>>> Anyone else who has specific references, please feel free to continue
>>>sending
>>> them to me and/or posting them.
>>>
>>> Here are my original questions previously posted to the aoirlist. I'm
>>>hoping
>>> the formatting is better this time:
>>> "For a piece I'm preparing on interaction back and forth between
>>>online and
>>> offline or from digital to physical worlds and back, I'm looking for
>>> references about how that works for people, especially those who are
>>>members
>>> of online communities.
>>>
>>> More than particular data to show this communication in process,
>>>although that
>>> is good too, I want to conceptualize themovement, the "flow" from one
>>>realm to
>>> another, to describe what is happening. Also, how does the online
>>> communication, including that through mobile phones, affect the offline
>>> interaction, and how do the offline encounters affect what goes on
>>>inside the
>>> online communities and in other social media containing some of the
>>>same
>>> people interacting offline. This project is part of my music fan
>>>research on
>>> fan communities, identities, and relationships.
>>> I'm already aware of the articles in the first issue of Mobile Media
>>>and
>>> Communication (January, 2013), and of Lauren Sessions-Goulet's
>>>excellent paper
>>> of a few years back on offline meetings and online communities, and
>>>have a few
>>> other helpful sources. I've done a body of work on romantic online
>>> relationships so I understand many of the dynamics there.
>>>
>>> Please feel free to write off list or on. Thanks so much in advance!
>>> cheers,
>>> andee (andrea baker)"
>>>
>>> thanks! --a
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>>> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>>
>>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>>> http://www.aoir.org/
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>>http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>
>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>> http://www.aoir.org/
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>Message: 6
>Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 10:29:31 -0600
>From: Peter Gloviczki <glovi002 at umn.edu>
>To: "Baker, Andrea" <bakera at ohio.edu>
>Cc: Air list <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
>Subject: Re: [Air-L] physical/digital worlds
>Message-ID:
> <CAHhM1_ZP_smznfeY5qELQPk9aSHwGJoCrz-sr35i4dmzmUKN5Q at mail.gmail.com>
>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
>Good morning, Andrea,
>
>This is a great question. I like Turkle's book Life on the Screen and
>I think it might be of some use for you in regards to this issue. I
>also wanted to mention Licklider & Taylor's essay, The Computer as a
>Communication Device (1968), because I think it might be helpful in
>terms of the conceptualization questions that you raise in your note.
>It is linked here: <http://memex.org/licklider.pdf>.
>
>Sincerely, Peter
>
>>> Hi Andrea and colleagues,
>>> Two sorts of quick suggestions -
>>>
>>> 1. In the direction of the history of the broader conceptualizations
>>>of the
>>> relationships/interactions you describe:
>>> A) partly by way of invoking both Barry Wellman's taxonomy of "the
>>>three
>>> ages of Internet Studies" and Heidi Campbell's similar taxonomy of
>>>three
>>> waves of research on religion online (both in Consalvo and Ess, The
>>>Handbook
>>> of Internet Studies, Blackwell, 2011), I developed an overview chapter
>>>on
>>> the history of the virtual/online //
>>> actual-real-material-"meatspace"/offline distinctions-relationships
>>>for our
>>> 2011 anthology:
>>> Self, Community, and Ethics in Digital Mediatized Worlds. In C. Ess
>>>and M.
>>> Thorseth, eds., Trust and Virtual Worlds: Contemporary Perspectives,
>>>3-30.
>>> Oxford: Peter Lang, 2011.
>>> B) For a variety of reasons, AoIRists will likely want to also be aware
>>> generally of the now publicized results of the Onlife Initiative, a
>>>European
>>> Commission "Digital Futures" project -
>>> <https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/onlife-initiative>.
>>> Broadly, the project sought to move us conceptually further down the
>>>road
>>> regarding the basic assumptions that have undergirded most of our
>>>thinking,
>>> research, and policy-making in conjunction with, e.g., "the information
>>> society" over past several decades. As the phrase "onlife" is meant to
>>> suggest, the once hard (with the usual caveats) distinctions asserted
>>> between "the online" and "offline life" have been (largely) shifted
>>>towards
>>> strong interrelationality (a point that is now made in many, many
>>>ways, of
>>> course, but is also one of the characterizations of the third Age /
>>>Wave in
>>> Campbell and Wellman's taxonomies).
>>> In addition to what the Onlife Manifesto articulates in terms of
>>>developing
>>> new conceptual approaches towards what is characterized as a
>>>hyperconnected
>>> era, AoIRists may find some of the background papers that contributed
>>>to the
>>> development of the manifesto helpful as well:
>>> <https://ec.europa.eu/digital-agenda/en/onlife-web-output>
>>>
>>> 2. In terms of more specific analyses, I find especially helpful
>>> A) Lomborg, Stine. Negotiating Privacy Through Phatic Communication: A
>>>Case
>>> Study of the Blogging Self. Philosophy and Technology 25
>>>(2012):415?434. DOI
>>> 10.1007/s13347-011-0018-7.
>>> Stine draws on Simmel's understanding of the sociable self - i.e., as
>>>first
>>> used to theorize and describe "offline" sociabilities - to analyze
>>> interactions and negotiations online between a prominent blogger and
>>>her
>>> readers/respondents. This analysis I found to be particularly useful
>>>in a
>>> number of ways, beginning with the details Stine careful documents of
>>>the
>>> negotiations between those engaged with the blog, as these negotiations
>>> involve perspective-taking and phatic communication that work to both
>>> preserve individual privacy while simultaneously constructing and
>>> maintaining the shared personal space (in Danish and other Germanic
>>> language, the _intimsf?re_ - the "intimate sphere" of close(r/est)
>>> relationships) online. These details, among other things, show how
>>>such
>>> online processes are extremely similar to their offline counterparts -
>>> again, challenging especially 1990s' tendencies towards hard dualisms
>>> between the online and the offline.
>>> More broadly - though this may take you beyond your primary focus -
>>>Stine's
>>> work thereby provides an empirically-grounded analysis that fits with
>>>both
>>> other similar work in Internet Studies as well as in contemporary
>>>philosophy
>>> on identity and, most basically, conceptions/assumptions regarding
>>>selfhood
>>> - hence the article's inclusion in this special issue of the journal
>>> Philosophy and Technology, as dedicated to these matters.
>>> For the introduction:
>>> ?At the Intersections Between Internet Studies and Philosophy: ?Who Am
>>>I
>>> Online?? (Introduction to special issue), Philosophy & Technology:
>>>Volume
>>> 25, Issue 3: (September, 2012): 275-284. DOI 10.1007/s13347-012-0085-4.
>>>
>>> (In these directions - of course, "the networked self" from Wellman and
>>> Haythornthwaite has worked prominently over the past decade, e.g., most
>>> recently in Julie Cohen's 2012 _Configuring the Networked Self: Law,
>>>Code,
>>> and the Play of Everyday Practice_. New Haven: Yale University Press.
>>> <http://www.juliecohen.com/page5.php>. At the same time, however,
>>>still
>>> more strongly relational notions of selfhood have been emerging in
>>> neurobiology (e.g., enactivism, the embodied mind, and other umbrella
>>>terms)
>>> and ethics (beginning with ecological ethics and feminist ethics /
>>>ethics of
>>> care - now with feminist concepts of "relational autonomy" and parallel
>>> notions of distributed epistemic and ethical responsibility). Such
>>>strongly
>>> relational emphases, most broadly, appear to have been characteristic
>>>of
>>> notions of selfhood in the pre-modern "West" and still typically
>>>function
>>> strongly in societies shaped by Confucian and Buddhist traditions, for
>>> example.
>>> What's of interest here regarding ethics is how such relational selves
>>>draw
>>> on virtue ethics: hence the importance of Shannon Vallor's work on
>>>virtue
>>> ethics vis-a-vis social networking - most recently, Social Networking
>>>and
>>> Ethics. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy (Winter 2012 Edition),
>>> Edward N. Zalta (ed.), forthcoming URL =
>>>
>>><http://plato.stanford.edu/archives/win2012/entries/ethics-social-networ
>>>king
>>> />.
>>> As well, the relational emphases in several Confucian and Buddhist
>>>societies
>>> appear to be shift towards more individual emphases, e.g.,
>>> Hansen, Mette Halskov and Rune Svarverud (eds.). 2010. The Rise of the
>>> Individual in Modern Chinese Society, Copenhagen: Nordic Institute of
>>>Asian
>>> Studies.)
>>>
>>> For my part, I find the "flow" you refer to helpfully analyzed
>>>especially
>>> from phenomenologically-informed frameworks (where such flow
>>>experiences are
>>> initially described in offline contexts) as well as, classically, in
>>> Cs?kszentmih?lyi et al. I know there's some work along these lines in
>>>Game
>>> Studies, for example, and, when I get a few more minutes, can cobble
>>> together a list of those references. In the meantime, someone(s) else
>>>on
>>> this list may have such a bibliography ready to hand?
>>>
>>> In any event, hope some of this is of some use - and hope to hear more
>>>about
>>> your work at AoIR in Denver!
>>>
>>> Best,
>>> - charles
>>> Associate Professor in Media Studies
>>> Department of Media and Communication
>>>
>>> Director, Centre for Research on Media Innovations
>>> <http://www.hf.uio.no/imk/english/research/center/media-innovations/>
>>>
>>> University of Oslo
>>> P.O. Box 1093 Blindern
>>> NO-0317
>>> Oslo Norway
>>> email: charles.ess at media.uio.no
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10.02.13 00:54, "Baker, Andrea" <bakera at ohio.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi, everyone,
>>>>
>>>> Thanks so much for all your help, from those of you commenting both
>>>>here in
>>>> the list and off of it.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, Barry, it was Nathan Jurgenson's work that first inspired me to
>>>>carry on
>>>> with my current project, sorry I didn't mention knowing about it. I
>>>>also
>>>> consulted with him initially, well before posting my inquiry.
>>>>Nathan and PJ
>>>> Rey are running their third Theorizing the Web conference, this year
>>>>in NYC.
>>>>
>>>> Of course, much work has dealt with the issue some, including mine on
>>>> relationships, identities and communities, and thanks for your own
>>>>important
>>>> list of contributions, your references. Thankfully there is now such
>>>>a wealth
>>>> of writing and research available. However, some of us think we
>>>>still have a
>>>> way to go in, to use your words, "flesh"-ing out dimensions of the
>>>>processes.
>>>> There's really still much more to say about it at this time, imo.
>>>>Most these
>>>> days seem to not only accept that online/mobile/cmc interaction is
>>>>real but
>>>> that it is less discrete from other activities than many of us early
>>>>internet
>>>> researchers and private citizens had originally conceived, and
>>>>experienced
>>>> back then.
>>>>
>>>> Anyone else who has specific references, please feel free to continue
>>>>sending
>>>> them to me and/or posting them.
>>>>
>>>> Here are my original questions previously posted to the aoirlist.
>>>>I'm hoping
>>>> the formatting is better this time:
>>>> "For a piece I'm preparing on interaction back and forth between
>>>>online and
>>>> offline or from digital to physical worlds and back, I'm looking for
>>>> references about how that works for people, especially those who are
>>>>members
>>>> of online communities.
>>>>
>>>> More than particular data to show this communication in process,
>>>>although that
>>>> is good too, I want to conceptualize themovement, the "flow" from one
>>>>realm to
>>>> another, to describe what is happening. Also, how does the online
>>>> communication, including that through mobile phones, affect the
>>>>offline
>>>> interaction, and how do the offline encounters affect what goes on
>>>>inside the
>>>> online communities and in other social media containing some of the
>>>>same
>>>> people interacting offline. This project is part of my music fan
>>>>research on
>>>> fan communities, identities, and relationships.
>>>> I'm already aware of the articles in the first issue of Mobile Media
>>>>and
>>>> Communication (January, 2013), and of Lauren Sessions-Goulet's
>>>>excellent paper
>>>> of a few years back on offline meetings and online communities, and
>>>>have a few
>>>> other helpful sources. I've done a body of work on romantic online
>>>> relationships so I understand many of the dynamics there.
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to write off list or on. Thanks so much in advance!
>>>> cheers,
>>>> andee (andrea baker)"
>>>>
>>>> thanks! --a
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>>>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>>>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>>>> http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>>>
>>>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>>>> http://www.aoir.org/
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>>>http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>>
>>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>>> http://www.aoir.org/
>> _______________________________________________
>> The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>> is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>> Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>>http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>>
>> Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>> http://www.aoir.org/
>
>
>
>--
>Peter Joseph Gloviczki, Ph.D.
>http://petergloviczki.com
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>The Air-L at listserv.aoir.org mailing list
>is provided by the Association of Internet Researchers http://aoir.org
>Subscribe, change options or unsubscribe at:
>http://listserv.aoir.org/listinfo.cgi/air-l-aoir.org
>
>Join the Association of Internet Researchers:
>http://www.aoir.org/
>
>End of Air-L Digest, Vol 103, Issue 11
>**************************************
>
More information about the Air-L
mailing list