[Air-L] Details on data retention in Turkey?

Ogan, Christine L. ogan at indiana.edu
Wed Sep 10 07:49:59 PDT 2014


Dear Oliver:  Those are all excellent questions and I hope someone on the list can answer those definitively.  I do not have access to that information and could only provide my opinion.  
Chris
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From: Oliver Leistert [leistert at mail.uni-paderborn.de]
Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2014 10:42 AM
To: Ogan, Christine L.; air-l at listserv.aoir.org
Subject: Re: [Air-L] Details on data retention in Turkey?

Thank you, Ogan. But still: for a proper data retention scheme, like the
one the EU was after with its Directive 2006/24/EC, a lot of changes
would have to be done on the hardwareside, too. The European Internet
Provder's protested against the Directive amongst other things because
of rising costs for them to provide such storage capacities. Can we
expect this from Turkish providers now, too?

Or will all the data be stored at some state organisation?

And then: what are the storage durations? You can just not store
everything without limit in duration.

And finally: what is it precisely that is being stored? Mobile phone
meta-data, classic internet traffic, etc.? A law itself does not
implement these capacities.

Finally, who has access to this data under which conditions? Although
the answer to this question by studying the bill and its implementation
documents does not tell much about the practice to expect.

-Oliver



On 09/10/2014 04:07 PM, Ogan, Christine L. wrote:
> I think you could safely say that everyone is watched for any reason on all their devices regardless of the reasonable decision to obtain court orders for shutting down web sites.
>
> See this website for a list of the documented 50,918 sites that have been shut already (but by the time you check it out, that number may have increased). http://engelliweb.com
> I hope that helps,
>
> But don't take my word.  Here is a quote from Turkish Internet Rights activists Yaman Akdeniz and Kerem Altiparmak. "“Between May 2007 and July 2014 Turkey blocked access to approximately 48,000 websites,” based on a recently updated law. Akdeniz and Altiparmak added that “Although the law is ostensibly aimed to protect children from harmful content, from the very beginning it has been used to prevent adults’ access to information.” It came from a Forbes web site.  And here is a website they manage:  http://privacy.cyber-rights.org.tr   Also a link to more information by someone who was covering the Internet Governance Forum in Istanbul that was held this month:  http://www.dw.de/turkey-faces-criticism-as-host-of-the-internet-governance-forum/a-17899512
>
> Best regards,
>
> Christine Ogan
> Prof. Emerita
> School of Informatics and Computing
> School of Journalism
> Indiana University
>
>
>
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>
> Hi,
>
> so Turkey passed a bill to shut down websites without court orders. This
> is what makes the headlines:
>
> http://online.wsj.com/articles/turkey-tightens-grip-over-the-internet-1410279325
>
> But the news also state that data of users will be retained. Has anyone
> on this list futher details about this Turkish data retention scheme?
>
> Thank you,
> Oliver
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