[Air-L] Meme Tracking

Alexander Halavais alex at halavais.net
Mon Jun 12 00:12:49 PDT 2017


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// Alexander Halavais, Sociologist, Semiologist, and Saboteur Extraordinaire
// Director of the MA in Social Technologies, Arizona State University
// http://alex.halavais.net/bio     @halavais

On Sun, Jun 11, 2017 at 8:11 PM, Jean Burgess <je.burgess at qut.edu.au> wrote:

> https://c1.staticflickr.com/4/3572/3685762238_8843196b53.jpg
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>
> On 11/6/17, 5:21 am, "Air-L on behalf of Robert W Gehl" <
> air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org on behalf of lists at robertwgehl.org> wrote:
>
>     I am not a meme scholar, but I think there is quite a bit of validity
> in
>     taking seriously what people do on the Internet, as well as how they
>     describe their own activities. One of those things they do is traffic
> in
>     something they refer to as "memes." Perhaps all of those people who
>     refer to those objects as "memes" are out of their depths in their
>     understanding of social science, and yet they continue to make, share,
>     and take meaning from these things called "memes." I have no advice for
>     meme tracking, but I do have advice for studying them: do so, because
>     they are part of human activity that matters, whether the word is right
>     or wrong.
>
>     See:
>     https://ixquick-proxy.com/do/spg/show_picture.pl?l=english&
> rais=1&oiu=http%3A%2F%2F68.media.tumblr.com%2F654ddf051c94d4c099a3a9664100
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> 7268cc951930ae53482a81dbdbbd07f1
>
>     - Rob Gehl
>
>     On 06/10/2017 01:06 PM, David Stodolsky wrote:
>     > Once you fall into Newspeak, like “meme,” you have already
> sacrificed your rationality on the altar of market fundamentalism:
>     >
>     > http://cosmism.blogspot.dk/2011/07/artificial-ape.html
>     >
>     > http://cosmism.blogspot.dk/2010/12/memes-selfish-genes-
> and-darwinian.html
>     >
>     > http://cosmism.blogspot.dk/2010/02/what-darwin-got-wrong.html
>     >
>     > http://cosmism.blogspot.dk/2016/02/richard-selfish-gene-
> dawkins-has.html
>     >
>     >
>     > Margaret-thatcher: "And, you know, there's no such thing as society.
> There are individual men and women and there are families" in an interview
> in Women's Own in 1987
>     > https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2013/apr/08/margaret-
> thatcher-quotes
>     >
>     > “Meme” is the same idea expressed by a zoologist, who is out of his
> depth in social science.
>     > He continues to be a fanatical opponent of group selection, when it
> comes to genes.
>     >
>     >
>     > As the refs below show, the term meme has no validity.
>     > Rumor propagation and the spread of innovative ideas has a long
> history of study in social science.
>     >
>     >
>     > dss
>     >
>     >> On 8 Jun 2017, at 15:05, Thomas Ball <xtc283 at gmail.com> wrote:
>     >>
>     >> A couple of years ago IARPA (https://www.iarpa.gov/) opened up a
> thread
>     >> exploring the use of open source indicators (OSIs) for prediction
> and
>     >> forecasting of unknown potential future events and threats. OSIs are
>     >> basically text and keywords. In reaching out to the IARPA organizer
> of the
>     >> discussion, links were requested to papers on the topic. The link
> below was
>     >> his response. Note that this IARPA thread came shortly after the
> so-called
>     >> 'Arab Spring.' Thus, the papers reflect thinking of that vintage.
>     >>
>     >> D12PC00337 OR D12PC00285 OR D12PC00347 - Google Scholar
>     >> <https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=D12PC00337+OR+
> D12PC00285+OR+D12PC00347>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> D12PC00337 OR D12PC00285 OR D12PC00347 - Google Scholar
>     >>
>     >>
>     >>
>     >> <https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=D12PC00337+OR+
> D12PC00285+OR+D12PC00347>
>     >>
>     >> On Thu, Jun 8, 2017 at 4:33 AM, Tanis Grandison <
> tanis.grandison at me.com>
>     >> wrote:
>     >>
>     >>> Hi All,
>     >>>
>     >>> I was wondering if anyone could offer any advice (and useful
> reading ) on
>     >>> tracking Memes.
>     >>> Specifically, I am wondering if there is a way I can take a meme
> and look
>     >>> at how it has spread and been shared on different social media?
>     >>>
>     >>> I wouldn’t be doing it in real time, more looking back at
> significant
>     >>> events and how political memes transcended networks and flowed
> through
>     >>> social media.
>     >>>
>     >>> Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
>     >>>
>     >>>
>     >>> Thanks
>     >>> Tanis Grandison
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>     > David Stodolsky, PhD                   Institute for Social
> Informatics
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