[Air-L] Data privacy via the WTO?

Mon Aug 27 08:52:53 PDT 2018

Thanks for this interesting points. This is a thought provoking thread.
 I'm interested in the role of the WTO regarding data administration and
e-commerce (I started doing my thesis on this subject).
Anyone knows more about it that can point me to relevant research?

El lun., 27 ago. 2018 7:51, Deborah Lupton <deborah.lupton at gmail.com>
escribió:

> Interesting to see what you are doing, Jennifer. I have two current
> projects on people's understandings and responses to personal data on the
> go at the moment, both of which will contribute to my book-in-progress,
> provisionally titled 'Data Selves' (to be published by Polity), which will
> also involve quite a lot of social theory, building on my recent article in
> Big Data & Society.
>
> The first project, 'Data Personas', asks people to respond to the concept
> of 'data persona', including imagining how much this persona is similar to
> or different from them, and how it will change in the future. The second
> project, "Personal Data Feelings', involves the story completion method,
> using four different story 'stubs' involving personal data privacy issues.
> There's some really interesting insights coming out of both ...
>
> On Mon, Aug 27, 2018 at 8:12 PM, Pybus, Jennifer via Air-L <
> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > This is a really important thread. We have been researching public
> > awareness of mobile data generation since 2013 and have found a range of
> > awareness levels. But to generalise, people still seem to favour
> > convenience, despite the spike in awareness from FB, Cambridge Analytics,
> > etc. We developed tools like the Mobile Miner app, for ethically
> harvesting
> > mobile data for research and collective use. I am leading a new AHRC
> > project that will further develop those tools for greater public impact
> and
> > access. We will be working with the Tactical Tech Collective on our
> > ‘Hacking the Mobile Ecosystem’ tools/workshop suite. This allows people
> to
> > drag mobile applications onto their laptops for closer examination,
> > allowing them to decompile or break open apps and to inspect their
> > technical elements. Relevant to this thread, we’ve used this to examine
> > personal data flows, for example regarding what kind of data the app is
> > accessing, how often, and with whom it is shared. We will be launching a
> > website soon and tools will be available for all interesting in
> cultivating
> > creative and critical understanding of the personal data economy. Watch
> > this space.
> >
> > Best,
> >
> > Dr. Jennifer Pybus
> > Programme Convenor, BA Digital Culture
> > Lecturer in Digital Culture and Society
> > King’s College London
> > Department of Digital Humanities
> > Strand, Room 3.22
> > London, WC2R 2LS
> >
> >
> > On 26 Aug 2018, at 6:39 pm, Amanda M L Taylor <AMLTaylor at uclan.ac.uk
> > <mailto:AMLTaylor at uclan.ac.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > Can I just add... does anyone think people in general have moved past the
> > convenience over conscious phase of new technological change? My
> experience
> > tells me on the whole that most people haven’t really thought about any
> of
> > this - hence why data trading has made the oil type status in terms of
> > value.
> >
> > Amanda
> >
> > On 26 Aug 2018, at 18:28, Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk<mailto:
> > S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk>> wrote:
> >
> > Hi and yes, I realise that. If I know who has my data I now have the
> right
> > to ask them about it.  My query was more how a user is to know which
> > service provider to ask? Who, in short, will help me establish the
> > existence of files in the first place? Given the global trade in data
> and a
> > host of intermediaries, data brokers, etc.
> >
> > It seems to me that the user now needs to understand not just the apps on
> > their phone but the entire data economy, if they are to exercise their
> > rights....
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Ansgar Koene [mailto:Ansgar.Koene at nottingham.ac.uk]
> > Sent: 26 August 2018 16:31
> > To: Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk<mailto:
> S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk>>;
> > Aram Sinnreich <aram at american.edu<mailto:aram at american.edu>>;
> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l at listserv.aoir.org> <
> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l at listserv.aoir.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Data privacy via the WTO?
> >
> >
> > Hi Sonia,
> >
> >  in order for a country to be compliant with Convention 108 it must pass
> > national laws that, as a minimum, enact the rights and obligations stated
> > in the convention. In the case of the EU, Article 8 of Convention 108 is
> > included in GDPR via the right to ask service providers what data they
> hold
> > about you.
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Ansgar
> >
> >
> > Dr. Ansgar Koene
> > Senior Research Fellow: UnBias, CaSMa & Horizon Policy Impact
> > Horizon Digital Economy Research Institute
> > University of Nottingham
> > Working group chair for IEEE Standard on Algorithm Bias Considerations
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> > From: Livingstone,S <S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk<mailto:
> > S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk><mailto:S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk>>
> > Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2018 8:02:07 PM
> > To: Ansgar Koene; Aram Sinnreich; air-l at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:
> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org><mailto:air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Data privacy via the WTO?
> >
> > Thanks for this discussion
> >
> > This is interesting:
> >
> >
> > Article 8 - Additional safeguards for the data subject
> >
> > Any person shall be enabled:
> >
> > ato establish the existence of an automated personal data file, its main
> > purposes, as well as the identity and habitual residence or principal
> place
> > of business of the controller of the file;
> >
> > How do we imagine users can figure out which data brokers and harvesters
> > have their personal data and will the data protection authority really
> help
> > them if they don't know where to start looking?
> >
> > Best, Sonia
> >
> >
> > From: "air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l-bounces@
> > listserv.aoir.org><mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org>" <
> > air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org
> > ><mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org>> on behalf of Ansgar Koene <
> > Ansgar.Koene at nottingham.ac.uk<mailto:Ansgar.Koene at nottingham.ac.uk
> > ><mailto:Ansgar.Koene at nottingham.ac.uk>>
> > Date: Saturday, 25 August 2018 at 13:43
> > To: Aram Sinnreich <aram at american.edu<mailto:aram at american.edu><mailto:
> > aram at american.edu>>, "air-l at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:
> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org><mailto:air-l at listserv.aoir.org>" <
> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l at listserv.aoir.org><mailto:
> > air-l at listserv.aoir.org>>
> > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Data privacy via the WTO?
> >
> > Dear Aram,
> >
> > I read your policy brief with interest and I think most people will be
> > able to agree with your analysis that an international approach to data
> > privacy is necessary. I do however have my concerns regarding the WTO as
> > appropriate body for administering this.
> >
> > As its name suggests, the WTO is tasked with dealing with questions
> > regarding trade. Assigning data privacy as being mandated by WTO
> > pre-supposes a trade based interpretation of data privacy akin to
> > discussions around ownership of personal data or "data as the new oil"
> etc.
> > When contrasting the US and EU approaches to data privacy, personal data
> as
> > a trade good is considered as a US perspective. The EU approach at the
> > basis of the GDPR is to consider data privacy from a human rights
> > perspective. This distinction has a lot of consequences, one of which
> would
> > be a discomfort with having the WTO as administrating organization for
> > international privacy regulation.
> >
> > Connected to this are concerns that trade negotiations, including those
> at
> > the WTO, are considered to be lacking in transparency.
> >
> >
> > When considering international efforts to establish common minimum
> > requirements around data privacy it would be important to also consider
> the
> > efforts of the Council of Europe, which recently updated Convention 108
> > (Convention for the Protection of Individuals with regard to Automatic
> > Processing of Personal Data https://emea01.safelinks.
> > protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coe.int%
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> >
> >
> > Karolina Mojzesowicz from the European Commission stated that "Convention
> > [108] was the source, the mother of the European EU data protection
> rules"
> > and that it "was and will remain the key compass in the European and
> global
> > privacy legal landscape"
> >
> > Out of the 110 countries in the world with data protection laws (in June
> > 2016) nearly half are already members of Convention 108.
> >
> >
> > Note that the Council of Europe [https://emea01.safelinks.
> > protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.coe.int%
> > 2Fen%2Fweb%2Fportal%2Fhome%2F&data=01%7C01%7Cjennifer.
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> > member states, including the 28 EU states bus also Russian Federation,
> > Turkey and others.
> >
> > As of October 1st 2018 Convention 108 will be in force not only in the 47
> > countries of the Council of Europe but also in Cabo Verde, Mauritius,
> > Mexico, Senegal, Tunisia and Uruguay.
> >
> >
> > Best wishes,
> >
> > Ansgar
> >
> >
> > Dr. Ansgar Koene
> > Senior Research Fellow: UnBias, CaSMa & Horizon Policy Impact
> > Horizon Digital Economy Research Institute
> > University of Nottingham
> > Working group chair for IEEE Standard on Algorithm Bias Considerations
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> > From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org<mailto:air-l-bounces@
> > listserv.aoir.org><mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org>> on behalf of
> > Aram Sinnreich <aram at american.edu<mailto:aram at american.edu><mailto:aram@
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> > Subject: [Air-L] Data privacy via the WTO?
> >
> > Fellow AoIRers,
> >
> > Last week, I published this short policy brief arguing that post-GDPR,
> > data privacy should be administered via an international treaty
> > organization, specifically the WTO.
> >
> > This is a very preliminary sketch, but I'd be curious to hear feedback
> > from other people interested in data privacy regulation before I build on
> > it. Let me know your thoughts!
> >
> > https://emea01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=
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> > international-approach-to-data-privacy%2F&data=01%
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> > Thanks!
> >
> > -
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