[Air-L] R: Inquiry on screen shots

Thu Feb 28 14:17:16 PST 2019

I think people can probably choose for themselves whether they want to use the listserv for one of its intended purposes (discussion), or migrate to a new proprietary platform, or both.

On 1/3/19, 12:53 am, "Air-L on behalf of Giancarlo M. Sandoval" <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org on behalf of gsmicro.nics at gmail.com> wrote:

    Hello everyone,

    Seconding Ilir's suggestion for chatting in the discourse group. It's
    getting a bit unwieldy!

    (Fully aware I'm contributing to this by sending an email but thought I'd
    add support)

    Cheers.

    On Thu, 28 Feb 2019, 14:50 Ilir Rama, <pirorama at hotmail.com> wrote:

    > Hello everyone!
    > Please consider using the AOIR workgroup Discord group to discuss more
    > comfortably, it would fit the conversation better - and it would definitely
    > be easier to follow!
    > If you think it could suit the conversation, an "ethics" discussion group
    > / text channel can be found here: https://discord.gg/DVXDYBf
    >
    > Thank you for the consideration, we are waiting for you there!
    >
    > All the best,
    > Ilir
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    > Da: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> per conto di Livingstone,S <
    > S.Livingstone at lse.ac.uk>
    > Inviato: giovedì 28 febbraio 2019 11:56
    > A: Isabel Galvis; Chris Leslie; Alex Gekker
    > Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
    > Oggetto: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
    >
    > Dear all
    >
    > Please note that, generally, the author of an image of revenge porn is an
    > abuser of the victim portrayed therein!
    >
    > Best, Sonia
    >
    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Air-L [mailto:air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org] On Behalf Of Isabel
    > Galvis
    > Sent: 28 February 2019 10:29
    > To: Chris Leslie <chrisleslienyc at hotmail.com>; Alex Gekker <
    > gekker.alex at gmail.com>
    > Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
    > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
    > Importance: High
    >
    > Also, worst case scenario you could do a new ethics application and get
    > consent from the authors of the images to use them.
    >
    >
    > Best regards,
    >
    >
    > ISABEL GALVIS, M.A.
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    >
    > -----Original Message-----
    > From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> On Behalf Of Chris Leslie
    > Sent: 28 February 2019 08:05
    > To: Alex Gekker <gekker.alex at gmail.com>
    > Cc: air-l at listserv.aoir.org
    > Subject: Re: [Air-L] Inquiry on screen shots
    >
    > Dear Alex Gekker,
    >
    > I think you are making an effort to be clever, humorous, or provocative.
    > However, I don’t think the ethical question posed by the original query
    > goes away because it relates to something we do every day (or that the
    > human subject are doing among themselves). I also think the difference you
    > suggest about private messages and public posts is worth thinking about
    > more.
    >
    > For instance, what if I published an academic article about the attitudes
    > of Internet researchers and quote your email as an example that reflects x
    > number of posts on the AOIR listserv? Depending on my thesis, you could
    > rightly be offended and potentially harmed by my article, even if
    > forwarding the email chain to your grad students or summarizing the
    > discussion for their benefit might have seemed ok. In the journal article,
    > I am using your statement as a research finding - a generalization of a
    > human trend I have observed that is backed up by quantitative data. Yet in
    > sending your email to the group, you didn’t consent to being a human
    > subject and you were not given the opportunity to give permission
    > afterward. Even if I changed your name and rearranged the words, you could
    > still feel like you were identifiable to members of AOIR who witnessed the
    > conversation.
    >
    > I interact publicly with humans in everyday life - asking people their
    > opinions about politics or their jobs, for example - in ways that are
    > ethical in interpersonal or educational settings. Those activities don’t
    > involve the IRB or raise ethical concerns because they are not the
    > foundation for research findings. Everything changes when I publish an
    > article with my name and academic affiliation and the implied endorsement
    > of the academic journal. So, to me, the dilemma you pose doesn’t seem to
    > reflect the need for IRB clearance in the first place.
    >
    > Chris
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