[Air-L] Elon Musk & free speech

Tue Dec 6 14:55:32 PST 2022

Thanks!

On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:53 PM Morten Bay <mortench at usc.edu> wrote:

> Indeed! I was just encouraging all the rest of us to also keep that
> distinction in mind as the discussion moves forward. Otherwise, things get
> messy very quickly.
>
> M.
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> *From:* Paul Levinson <levinson.paul at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 6, 2022 2:23:49 PM
> *To:* air-l at listserv.aoir.org <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>; Morten Bay <
> mortench at usc.edu>
> *Subject:* Re: [Air-L] Elon Musk & free speech
>
> Thanks for that, Morten.  I do make precisely that point -- the difference
> between government censorship and private organization content moderation
> -- in my Op-Ed.
>
> -- Paul
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 6, 2022 at 5:11 PM Morten Bay via Air-L <
> air-l at listserv.aoir.org> wrote:
>
> Before this discussion goes any further (or off the rails), I have a small
> request on behalf of those of us on the sidelines trying to learn from
> people smarter than us:
>
> When we discuss these matters, can we please distinguish between
> state-enforced censorship and oppression of free speech versus the
> also-constitutionally protected rights to content moderation and editorial
> decisions in privately-held media? Can we please also distinguish between
> coercion and persuasion as expressions of power?
>
> I think that will generate a more nuanced and less polarized discussion to
> everyone’s benefit.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Morten
>
> From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of
> andrew.lowenthal--- via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:23 PM
> To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
> Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elon Musk & free speech
> It is truly breathtaking that the default position now in 'academia' is
> one of free speech suppression...
>
> "Do we tolerate too much?" is asked... perhaps ask someone in Indonesia
> who as of today can face jail criticising the president... anti-free
> speech 'liberals' embolden authoritarians around the world.
>
> The fact that people are going in to bat for Big Tech for suppressing a
> story about the Biden family dealings in Ukraine and China (to say
> nothing of Hunter's predilections for cocaine and sex workers) is
> astounding... how much lower can 'academia' sink?
>
> Interest in the actual truth is long gone, and liberals are just as
> partisan as conservatives. Intellectuals who care nothing for party
> tribalism are all but extinct (or at least very quiet).
>
> If you are interested in a different take you might like to try this...
>
>
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> >
>
> Best,
> Andrew
>
>
> On 12/6/22 20:51, Paul Levinson via Air-L wrote:
> > just up on NBC News Think: my op-ed about Elon Musk and free speech
> > <
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> > -- PL
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