[Air-L] Elon Musk & free speech

[Morten Bay]

Before this discussion goes any further (or off the rails), I have a small request on behalf of those of us on the sidelines trying to learn from people smarter than us:

When we discuss these matters, can we please distinguish between state-enforced censorship and oppression of free speech versus the also-constitutionally protected rights to content moderation and editorial decisions in privately-held media? Can we please also distinguish between coercion and persuasion as expressions of power?

I think that will generate a more nuanced and less polarized discussion to everyone’s benefit.

Thanks.

Morten

From: Air-L <air-l-bounces at listserv.aoir.org> on behalf of andrew.lowenthal--- via Air-L <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
Date: Tuesday, December 6, 2022 at 12:23 PM
To: air-l at listserv.aoir.org <air-l at listserv.aoir.org>
Subject: Re: [Air-L] Elon Musk & free speech
It is truly breathtaking that the default position now in 'academia' is
one of free speech suppression...

"Do we tolerate too much?" is asked... perhaps ask someone in Indonesia
who as of today can face jail criticising the president... anti-free
speech 'liberals' embolden authoritarians around the world.

The fact that people are going in to bat for Big Tech for suppressing a
story about the Biden family dealings in Ukraine and China (to say
nothing of Hunter's predilections for cocaine and sex workers) is
astounding... how much lower can 'academia' sink?

Interest in the actual truth is long gone, and liberals are just as
partisan as conservatives. Intellectuals who care nothing for party
tribalism are all but extinct (or at least very quiet).

If you are interested in a different take you might like to try this...

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://disinformationchronicle.substack.com/p/punching-down-how-the-anti-disinformation__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pLw_tKTFjSSAtxATGWxuanoQRIYKVvbyLD3P8_3RIcPjNZ0n-w4tEZXzSg5l0_6urdJCF3ZqcEi1AcJ6Fg$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/disinformationchronicle.substack.com/p/punching-down-how-the-anti-disinformation__;!!LIr3w8kk_Xxm!pLw_tKTFjSSAtxATGWxuanoQRIYKVvbyLD3P8_3RIcPjNZ0n-w4tEZXzSg5l0_6urdJCF3ZqcEi1AcJ6Fg$>

Best,
Andrew


On 12/6/22 20:51, Paul Levinson via Air-L wrote:
> just up on NBC News Think: my op-ed about Elon Musk and free speech
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