[Assam] From Tehelka

Ram Sarangapani assamrs at gmail.com
Wed Aug 16 13:00:58 PDT 2006


Ouch! C'da,

>But regardless of their political creed NO revolutionary could deny >Castro
his due place in the history of revolutions. Similarly, >regardless of the
failures ( or successes) of Marxism as a system >of governance, no one can
deny the enormous influence Marx left >in the formation of contemporary
human civilization

Good questions requiring deep thoughts. Marx and Castro obviously did have a
huge influence on human civilization. So did Hitler. IMHO, we judge such
personalities NOT by the amount of influence they had on civilizations, but
by how much good they have done for humanity either thru their teachings or
they way they ruled (Cuba).
Both Marx and Castro have been absolute failures in that regard. Though Marz
never raised a gun, he did manage to incite  a number of countries (China,
Indo-China comes to mind) who used/misused his doctrines to enslave huge
populations for decades. That hopefully is not what those fighting for
freedom in Assam want for the people of Assam.

>There is way too much hypocrisy and self-serving piety going on all >around
us today to give such labels any credence at all Ram.

I agree, but there is a whale lot of difference between people who might
swear by a Gandhi and those by a Hitler or a Castro.

Don't know much about the form of Govt. Israel has. This much I know, it is
a democracy with kibbutzes and all. But about Begin turning 'freedom
fighter', thats a pretty common these days of global politics. The same with
Arafat, once a terrorist, then goes on to win the Nobel.

C'da, wanting and fighting for freedom is a noble thing. The way some try to
get it is often ignoble - and that is the problem.

--Ram






On 8/16/06, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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>  I don't know Pradip Gogoi from Adam, Ram, even though he is a fellow
> Jokaisukiya from perhaps thirty miles or so from where I grew up. I don't
> know under what context he said what he did. But regardless of their
> political creed NO revolutionary could deny Castro his due place in the
> history of revolutions. Similarly, regardless of the failures ( or
> successes) of Marxism as a system of governance, no one can deny the
> enormous influence Marx left in the formation of contemporary human
> civilization.
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> >will there be a Communistic slant in their rule?
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>  *** Even if I were to be in a position to answer such questions, I could
> not have answered such a vague question. What exactly is a communistic
> slant? Is Israel with its Kibbutzes ( Communes) and absence of private
> land-ownership and socialist governance 'communistic'; fit to be tarred and
> feathered with such simplistic labels ? How did Menachem Begin get
> rehabilitated as a 'freedom-fighter', while he was instrumental to blowing
> up Britishers and their installations and was once branded by them a
> 'terrorist'? What kind of cleansing solvent did Begin's followers find to
> wash off his 'terrorist' label?
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> There is way too much hypocrisy and self-serving piety going on all around
> us today to give such labels any credence at all Ram. Particularly by people
> who are informed and are able to reason.
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> At 12:31 PM -0500 8/16/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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> Thanks for sharing that with us. Pretty interesting. Gogoi does have the
> tenacity and passion - one must give him that, even though I necessarily do
> not see things his way.
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> Its is intriguing that his passion for independence is built upon the
> ideals of Marx and Castro.
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> The question is, if people like him become leaders of an independent
> Assam, will there be a Communistic slant in their rule?
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> --Ram
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> On 8/16/06,* Chan Mahanta* <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> ULFA's Pradip Gogoi in Tehelka:
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> http://www.fromallangles.com/newspapers/country/india/tehelka.com.htm
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