[Assam] From Tehelka
Ram Sarangapani
assamrs at gmail.com
Thu Aug 17 06:58:33 PDT 2006
C'da,
The ULFA has far more intelligent people to advice them then the likes of
me, and they wouldn't give two hoots for my support.
Your very premise of the question is wrong. I would not support any state or
group of people within India seeking independence.
If India has problems, then it would be incumbent upon its people to help
solve them and not bailing out when the country needs them.
The only positive, I can see is that because of the insurgency, Assam seems
to be getting sops from the Center. Though what a lousy way to achieve such
ends.
My idea for India in general is for it to have autonomous States, but within
the ambit and constitution of India. That way states could have more of a
say in their governance and would be responsible for most things (good or
bad) that would happen. The GOI would or control certain aspects of the
country, while the individual states could control many of their local
issues.
But no state should have the right to separate. States would still have
representations at the Center.
That is what the ULFA should aim for - a bid for autonomous states. That
way, Assam would still be a part of India, but has more control over its
destiny. I think many other states would join this effort.
--Ram
On 8/16/06, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> Ram:
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> Why don't you guys put your money where your mouths are and tell ULFA that
> you might support their cause of Assam's independence, provided:
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> You fill in the gaps.
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> If you do that and ULFA still ignores the likes of you, then I would go
> along with your assessment. Failing which, it is "xaap hoiw khwtisa aaru bez
> hoiw jaarisa", know what I mean :-)?
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> c-da
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> At 6:49 PM -0500 8/16/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
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> Exactly Rajib.
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> That is why Pradip Gogoi's idealogical infatuation with the likes of Marx
> and Castro cannot be just set aside.
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> All we have heard so far is that a group of insurgents want freedom at any
> cost. They won't give the people (that they are supposedly fighting for) a
> plan, what kind of governance, or even how they would envision to protect
> the state once it is free.
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> --Ram
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> On 8/16/06,* Rajib Das* <rajibdas at yahoo.com> wrote:
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> Yes, I agree completely. Labels of any kind don't
> amount to much. The Indian political class has only
> now started to shed labels. Within those, the ones to
> do so thoroughly were the Indian nationalists however.
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> If the Indian nationalists are green with envy of
> China, it is great. At least envy might lead to
> something sustainably productive - as opposed to
> labeling China's progress as a CIA ploy or some such
> thing.
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> The questions beneath the labels however are
> important.
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> It is important to know what would be ULFA's agenda in
> an independent Assam (and that includes how they will
> govern, what "freedoms" would be allowed or
> disallowed, how will the government be run etc.).
> Wouldn't we all expect to get those answers to form a
> complete opinion? And wouldn't we be right, in the
> absence of any such answers, in determining that this
> would spell anarchy, no less?
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> And no, the Oracle's (Mike Da) monologue, "Main Hoon
> Na" is not enough :-)
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> --- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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> > If so, those labels are that much meaningless,
> > aren't they?
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> > At 3:14 PM -0700 8/16/06, Rajib Das wrote:
> > >I thought that wasn't really Marxism (or for that
> > >matter Maoism) that did it in China - it simply was
> > >sheer capitalism.
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> > >Before they started off on this Capitalist route 20
> > >years before India, they were reeling off from yet
> > >another one of the Maoist (or is it Marxist)
> > >endeavors.
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> > >> Also, even though Marxism might not be your cup
> > of
> > >> tea or mine, can
> > >> you go tell that to Chinese? A nation way worse
> > off
> > >> than India 50
> > >> years back, now has no one going hungry or
> > homeless
> > >> or without health
> > >> care, leaving Indian nationalists green with
> > envy,
> > >> isn't it?
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