[Assam] Demands for Separate states in India

[Ram Sarangapani]

C'da,

>Are you suggesting that these folks, unable to
>seize power through 'legitimate', desi means, decided to grab it
>through the agitation, forcibly removing the legitimate powers who
>were occupying the 'gaddi' while Assam smoldered

No, they did not seize power - they did contest elections, you have to
give them that. After that, it was all about themselves as individuals
and promises remained promises.

All I am saying is that these leaders you uphold so much are no
different than any other desi politician. If the ULFA leadership
assumes power tomorrow, we can expect nothing more (probably worse -
judging from their fantastic track record of extortion, killing
innocents, aligning with groups like ISI and B'Desh.)

The problem (for Assam) has nothing to do with 'saffron'. The hatred
of ISI/B'desh cannot and should not be translated into
'Assamese-B'deshi-ISI bhai-bhai'. They are no friends of India, but by
no means should anyone (including those wanting independence) for that
to mean the 'enemy of my enemy is my friend'.

> *** But the point  I was making, and you digress from, is that the
> people of Assam, ( excepting the Bengali speakers and the
> Hindiwallas), by and large did close ranks behind the agitators,
> didn't they? And it included Bodos, Misings,Karbis, Ahoms and even > Bamuns. Am I incorrect about that?

You are right.But didn't we all got taken for a long ride on that
gravy train? What makes you think the 'new leaders' will be different.

You can have all the operators, checks and balances, a barnd-spanking
new 'shistem' but if the powers that be will NOT let you implement
them, how is an independent Assam going to practice them?

>The good news is that Assam  has plenty of those. The question is
>HOW to bring them on board? And how to get the right apparatus >for
them to work with.

Yeah right. The good people most of know wouldn't touch Assam politics
with a barge pole. C'da, in the end, Assam, independent or not will at
the best case scenario be old wine in a new bottle. One dreads to
think of other possibilities in an independent Assam.

--Ram







On 8/26/06, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
> >  >Divisive agenda? Actually it was power grabbing and a whole lot of
> >corruption amongst the leaders.
>
> *** I am trying to understand what you present, trying to read the
> underlying message. Are you suggesting that these folks, unable to
> seize power through 'legitimate', desi means, decided to grab it
> through the agitation, forcibly removing the legitimate powers who
> were occupying the 'gaddi' while Assam smoldered?
>
> It is hard for me to comprehend this. Would you care to explain the
> legitimacy and effectiveness of those who got thrown out by the
> agitators ?
>
> *** But the point  I was making, and you digress from, is that the
> people of Assam, ( excepting the Bengali speakers and the
> Hindiwallas), by and large did close ranks behind the agitators,
> didn't they? And it included Bodos, Misings,Karbis, Ahoms and even
> Bamuns. Am I incorrect about that?
>
>
> >and a whole lot of corruption amongst the leaders.
>
> *** Corruption is NOT an innate condition ( you ought to have learned
> that by now Ram--tsk, tsk :-)), it was an effect, of falling prey to
> the dysfunctional desi-governmental system and its vested machinery.
> They did not realize that merely a turn-over of the people at the
> wheels of this system was not going to be enough to make a difference
> for Assam. It required radical overhauling, if not entirely replacing
> the defective, antiquated,hand-me-down machinery of a colonial past.
>
> >  >Aren't the new 'andwlon' leaders now
> >fighting for 'independence' cut from a similar cloth? Are they any different
>
> *** You keep making the same mistake over and over again Ram :-). It
> is NOT the people ALONE that matters. It is the machinery that
> requires major overhauling. Of course better trained, able and
> passionate operators are required too. The good news is that Assam
> has plenty of those. The question is HOW to bring them on board? And
> how to get the right apparatus for them to work with.
>
> >  >No, no, I could be wrong here, there may actually be an
> >infusion of new ideas here - you know from B'Desh and the ISI.
>
> *** Ram, Ram, Ram! You are letting your guard down --- your saffron
> is showing :-)!
>
>
> c-da
>
>
>
>
> At 10:41 AM -0500 8/26/06, Ram Sarangapani wrote:
> >C'da,
> >
> >>Unfortunately the 'andwlon' leadership had a divisive agenda, was
> >>uneducated about how to form a government and reform it to move
> >>forward. They young folks thought that changing of the guard was
> >>enough to take them to the promised land. It was a profoundly
> >>faulty perception as it proved to be in very short order.
> >
> >Divisive agenda? Actually it was power grabbing and a whole lot of
> >corruption amongst the leaders. Aren't the new 'andwlon' leaders now
> >fighting for 'independence' cut from a similar cloth? Are they any
> >different? No, no, I could be wrong here, there may actually be an
> >infusion of new ideas here - you know from B'Desh and the ISI. :-)
> >
> >--Ram
>