[Assam] "Oxom"-"Asom" controversy is a " tilika" (little) topic

Tue Aug 29 20:24:37 PDT 2006

Raiz:

The crux of the matter here is this:

*** Himendra Thakur, important as he is, at least 
in  his own mind, could not handle criticism of 
some of his comments and ideas he floated here. 
He expected
Netters to go " hoy saar  hoy, bor bhaal kotha 
koise" . But instead when there were criticisms 
and challenges, instead of DEFENDING his views 
with credible arguments, he attempts to discredit 
his critics on entirely unrelated issues, 
including personal attacks of the crudest, most 
uncouth kind; thinking or hoping it will somehow 
erase the exposure his own muddled thinking and 
bigotry ridden attitudes. HT cannot fathom that 
when he asserts something, and if or when 
challenged, when he attempts to hide, play 
no-comprendo or feigns loss of memory,he appears 
to be a weasel to others.

Instead of defending his own views, HT expected 
other Assam Netters to come to his defense. Since 
that does not happen, he  attempts to disparage 
them, implying they are cowards, or are afraid of 
people like myself.

Yes, I will be the first to admit that I can be 
pretty rough with my words. But only to people 
who deserve such treatment. I don't know HT from, 
as I like to say, Adam. I met him once. It was a 
very cordial meeting. My exchanges with him in 
this net too were cordial and respectful, until, 
HT began to lose it and started making weird 
charges and getting personal; displaying, his 
true, crude and bigoted self.

It is obvious HT does not get it. He is too 
simple minded and ignorant to understand ordinary 
tongue-in-cheek or levity laced commentary that 
people make here time to time. Shades of our 
other piece-of-work in this net, the 'seraa 
boliya''linguist' with whom HT has obviously 
found common cause. Being language challenged has 
caused a lot of problem here for the tone-deaf, 
not to mention those who have had the misfortune 
of engaging with them. Poor Rajen! He is the 
biggest victim of it. I can understand why that 
happens however. It is a tell-tale sign of 
immigrants in these shores sticking with their 
own kind, rarely ever commiserating with the 
locals, remaining mired in a ghetto-mentality. 
Considering how HT charged me with 'accusing' him 
of accepting American citizenship, as if it is a 
crime; it becomes very easy to understand the 
mind-set.

Bottom line: HT needs to pay attention and learn 
the ethics of Assam Net. Not that it is hard for 
the ordinarily attentive ones, but for those who 
are too
impressed with themselves to notice what is going 
on around them, it could be a challenge.

cm

At 9:16 PM -0400 8/29/06, Himendra Thakur wrote:
>Dear Ram,
>
>
>
>The word litikai was popularized so heavily in 
>the Assamese literature by Lakshminath Bezbarua 
>in his Gosain-Litikai serials  that every time 
>you mention the word litikai, you remember the 
>word gosain ----- just like the Guru-Chela 
>stories in North Indian literature, or the 
>knight & his squire stories of Europe, which 
>inspired classics such as Don Quixote and 
>Sancho Panza . In fact, there is a statue of 
>Sancho Panza in Madrid!
>
>
>
>Mr. Rajen Barua insults all Assamese people by 
>writing: Poor, pathetic 'litikai' Assamese with 
>their 'tilika' minds.
>
>
>
>The Assamese, therefore, has a right to 
>scrutinize how the mind of Mr. Rajen Barua was 
>working as he rushed to declare Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta as Learned MM who wrote a very 
>irresponsible piece of advice about storing 
>rainwater underground in Guwahati without any 
>reference to the sewage pollution from the soak 
>pits.
>
>
>
>To clarify the example, here are the two telltale postings:
>
>
>
>Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta wrote on August 21, 2006: 
>
>A little arithmetic is called for. Say you have 
>a roof area= 100 sq mtr. and annual normal 
>rainfall =2m.You catch every drop and store. So 
>to store 200 cu.mtr water in a 2.5 mtr deep 
>underground tank  below your house,  you need Rs 
>5 Lakhs etra over just the house cost. You have 
>a 10 member family -need 2 cu mtr water daily. 
>So your annual Harvest of Stale rainwater goes 
>for 100 days! And for 265 days you buy-because 
>you did not dig your ring-well for Rs 10,000/-. 
>At Gau today,Bhar water <mailto:costs at Rs>costs 
>@Rs 20/-. Bhar= 30 litres. Hence you buy 
>water--costing dailyRs 1200/-
>
>
>
>Mr. Rajen Barua replied immediately:
>
>Interesting. If this is delivered drinking 
>water to your flat, it is rather cheap, I would 
>say. Less than a rupee per litre.
>
>  Here is a business tip to the local youth in Guwahati.
>
>If you have a plot of land in Guwahati, all you 
>need to do is dig a deep well and produce free 
>drinking water.  You may need little or no 
>filtration at all.  Sell the produced water to 
>the buildings in the city by a water tanker by 
>pumping the water to the roof top tanks.  (You 
>will be called whenever the city water supply 
>will fail or there is extra demand of water in 
>parties). You have unlimited supply of free 
>water. You may not even need a license. You do 
>the math how much profit you will make.
>
>
>
>I would like to hear comments from learned MM if I am doing it wrong.
>
>
>
>
>
>The Assamese people has a right to note that the 
>Gosain-Litikai relationship between Mr. Mukul 
>Chandra Mahanta and Mr. Rajen Barua is so strong 
>that Mr. Rajen Barua forgot  all about the 
>possibility of sewage pollution from the 
>underground soak pits and went forward to entice 
>the local youth in Guwahati  with the prospect 
>of how much profit you will make by selling 
>drinking water stored in underground deep well 
>with no filtration at all and without any 
>license from the Public Health Officials.
>
>
>
>This is verily an advice to young entrepreneurs 
>to avoid responsibility and accountability.
>
>
>
>The last line I would like to hear comments 
>from learned MM if I am doing it wrong sounds 
>like a dialogue of Sancho Panza in the classic 
>Don Quixote.
>
>
>
>The example cited above shows how irresponsible these advisers can be.
>
>
>
>Right now, his Learned MM is preaching 
>Secession of Assam from India [sometimes 
>camouflaging the word "secession" behind the 
>word "independence"] and no wonder Mr. Rajen 
>Barua rushes to blame the Assamese people
>
>Even now hardly any Assamese are raising their 
>voice for independence.  They are suffering so 
>much in inferiority complex, they even shy away 
>to pronounce Oxom and are trying to say Asom so 
>that their big brothers would not laugh.
>
>
>
>Compared to the horrific  foreign infiltration 
>which is a civilian invasion into  Assam, the 
>Oxom-Asom controversy is a tilika (little) 
>topic.
>
>
>
>By using this as a litmus test for the 
>inferiority complex of Assamese people, Mr. 
>Rajen Barua has exposed his own tilika mind. 
>Mr. Mukul Chandra Mahanta and his brother Mr. 
>Chandan Mahanta support the horrific foreign 
>infiltration by citing the economic benefits. 
>When Mr. Rajen Barua supports the Mahanta 
>brothers, he makes a great display of the 
>inferiority complex of those Assamese who will 
>sell their Mother for economic benefit.
>
>
>
>I do not agree with your phrase pipe dream --- 
>Secession of Assam from India is much more 
>serious than a pipe-dream --- it is murder of 
>millions of innocent victims. Just like 
>Partition of India was murder of millions 60 
>years ago.
>
>
>
>Symbolically encouraged by the fact that nobody 
>expressed any sorrow or any condolence for the 
>innocent victim who died under the irresponsible 
>Mahanta Building, the Mahanta Brothers are now 
>bolstering  their utterly irresponsible crusade 
>of Secession of Assam from India.
>
>
>
>By saying that these are Just my thoughts, you 
>have exposed, like many other netters,  your 
>hidden fear of speaking up against the Mahanta 
>Brothers in clear terms, because you are 
>probably afraid that Mr. Chandan Mahanta will 
>attack you with strong unparliamentary words 
>like (1) 'seraa-paagol'  (2) 'bhondo toposyi 
>(3) adha-khunda bidya (4) 'kando-gyan' (5) 
>'adha-khunda' (half-baked) nit-wit -------- in 
>fact, Mr. Chandan Mahanta threatens that he 
>could have used a whole lot worse.  
>
>
>
>No matter how much he threatens, I must 
>repeat that Secession of Assam from India is 
>much more serious than a pipe-dream --- it is 
>murder of millions of innocent victims.
>
>
>
>I urge the Assamese to stand up and voice in 
>confidence against the irresponsible leadership 
>of the Mahanta Brothers. Symbolically --- and as 
>a token --- they may start their protest to 
>Mahanta Brothers by expressing their sorrow and 
>condolence for the innocent victim who died 
>under the Mahanta Building.
>
>
>
>With the best wishes,
>
>Himendra
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:assamrs at gmail.com>Ram Sarangapani
>To: <mailto:barua25 at hotmail.com>Barua25
>Cc: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>assam at assamnet.org
>Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 1:20 AM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] MC Mahanta's bamboo-reinforcement
>
>Dear Barua,
>
>  >Even now hardly any Assamese are raising their voice for >independence.
>
>Very few actually raised the voice of 
>independence, and fewer still do so today. I 
>think, in case for independence, most Assamese 
>are actually being savvy and and realize what a 
>pipe dream this venture really is. They very 
>well know that their lot is in much better state 
>staying with India than being independent. That 
>is why, you will find very few voices for 
>independence.
>
>I doubt they are being  'litikai' at all.
>
>Just my thoughts.
>
>--Ram
>
>
>On 8/28/06, Barua25 <<mailto:barua25 at hotmail.com>barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I thought I never had to respond.
>
>Assamese are suffereing from an acute inferiority complex.
>That is why they want to stay with India and are 
>staying with India and will stay with India 
>forever.
>That is why they never raised their voice to 
>stay as an independent country at the time of 
>India's independence.
>Even now hardly any Assamese are raising their voice for independence.
>
>Today Assamese are not even complaining against 
>the GOI. They are simply saying that GOI is 
>treating Assam like a step child. All Assam 
>wants, is GOI to treat them as a 'legitimate 
>child.' They dream of the day when Mai Bap GOI 
>would treat them as their own child. That is all 
>they want. That is the highest dream of an 
>Assamese. As a result they wait for GOI's 
>command to say what Assam would do so that they 
>follow GOI like a 'litikai' and can please GOI.
>
>Assamese could solve lot of their problems if 
>simply they would stand up and voice in 
>confidence.
>They are suffering so much in inferiority 
>complex, they even shy away to pronounce Oxom 
>and are trying to say Asom so that their big 
>brothers would not laugh. There is hardly any 
>Assamese intellectual left in Assam. They even 
>donot know their own history and culture.
>
>Poor, pathetic 'litikai' Assamese with their 'tilika' minds.
>
>RB
>
>
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