[Assam] Chalo Delhi
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Mon Dec 18 06:38:00 PST 2006
> if the Assamese people are not interested in what is happening to
>Rs 15000 croes or what is happening to Assam-Asom,
*** Just because Rajen Barua or Sondon Mohonto have not seen
news-paper reports or garbage-editorials from rags that eat out of
the hands of 'sorkar', does not necessarily mean that PEOPLE of ASSAM
do not care.
People of Assam happen to be more than its establishment.
The question that ought to be asked is WHAT instruments, tools, that
the people have to fight for it? And what have those tools produced
so far?
At 11:53 PM -0600 12/17/06, Barua25 wrote:
>This brings us back to the million dollar question, if the Assamese
>people are not interested in what is happening to Rs 15000 croes or
>what is happening to Assam-Asom, what then the people of Assam want?
>So far no intellectuals have come forward neither against Assam-Asom
>issue nor against Rs15000. Are they interested in anything at all?
>Does it matter to them whether Assam is in India or in China for
>that matter? Are they alive? I take it back, they must be alive,
>because they know how to cry, although they don't know what for
>they cry.
>Barua
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:assamrs at gmail.com>Ram Sarangapani
>To: <mailto:barua25 at hotmail.com>Barua25
>Cc: <mailto:dilipdeka at yahoo.com>Dilip/Dil Deka ;
><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>ASSAMNET
>Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 11:33 PM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
>
>Dear Barua,
>
> >In case of Assam, they had to keep the people busy so that they
>donot have time to >discuss what happened to Rs 15000 croes,
> >Assamese intellectuals, the media and all are falling for it.
>
>Actually, in the case of Assam, the people are either totally
>unaware or just don't care of what happened to the Rs. 15000 crores,
>AND nor are they (it seems so) upset or seem to care about the the
>name. (the Hobo Diok kicking in)
>
>The reason I am saying this is, I don't see any mass-scale
>opposition (or for that matter support) for the name change. Where
>is the passion?
>
>As far as the intellectuals, they are not falling for it, but it
>seems they want to have a "say" whether its right or wrong. To be in
>the limelight is nice. And as for the media, they just want to
>sensationalize something where there is absolutely none. They too
>don't know which horse to back these days.
>
>--Ram
>
>
>On 12/17/06, Barua25 <<mailto:barua25 at hotmail.com>barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >My feeling is that politicians and some "literary stalwarts" who
>have little else to do, bring up non-issues like this from time to
>time. It seems >like they just want to whip up some regional or
>linguistic frevor. Its all hubris and rah-rah than anything else.
>
>I will agree with that.
>It is like re-arranging the furnitures in Titanic.
>In case of Assam, they had to keep the people busy so that they
>donot have time to discuss what happened to Rs 15000 croes,
>Assamese intellectuals, the media and all are falling for it.
>Barua
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:assamrs at gmail.com>Ram Sarangapani
>To: <mailto:barua25 at hotmail.com>Rajen & Ajanta Barua
>Cc: <mailto:dilipdeka at yahoo.com>Dilip/Dil Deka ;
><mailto:assam at assamnet.org>ASSAMNET
>Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 10:44 PM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
>
>
>Dear Barua,
>
>My basic argument is that, even though it may make "sense" , why is
>that when the names were originally accepted - ie: Bangalore or
>Madras or Baroda or Assam, the people in those days accepted the
>names without any problem?
>
>Why is this becoming a trend now? Were those early people just plain
>stupid that they accepted whatever names were given? What has
>changed?
>
>My feeling is that politicians and some "literary stalwarts" who
>have little else to do, bring up non-issues like this from time to
>time. It seems like they just want to whip up some regional or
>linguistic frevor. Its all hubris and rah-rah than anything else.
>
>As far as Assam is concerned, the ONUS should be on the people who
>are hell-bent on changing the name to Asom. They should provide the
>logic and reasoning why such a name change is not just necessay but
>also imperative for Assam's survival. Why should there be a need
>by those who are satisfied with continuance of the name "Assam"
>bring in historical or other relevance so as to convince the Assam
>Govt. not to change.
>
>--Ram
>
>
>
>On 12/17/06, Rajen & Ajanta Barua
><<mailto:barua25 at hotmail.com>barua25 at hotmail.com > wrote:
>
>Ramgopal:
>If one looks at these name changes, all may make sense. In fact
>another due change may be Baroda to Badodara.
>But Assam to Asom does not make any sense at all. This is a classic
>example of what we say in Assamese:
>Dekhak dekhi kukurew pale ekadoxi.
>or
>Adak dekhi keturai bwle mwkw kha.
>Barua
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: <mailto:assamrs at gmail.com>Ram Sarangapani
>To: <mailto:dilipdeka at yahoo.com>Dilip/Dil Deka
>Cc: <mailto:assam at assamnet.org>ASSAMNET
>Sent: Sunday, December 17, 2006 3:20 PM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] Chalo Delhi
>
>
>Whats the world coming to. Here is a news item from the TOI along
>some more name changes. Looks like these politicians and others have
>little else to do.
>
>From the TOI:
>
>BHOPAL: After Mumbai, Chennai, Kolkata, Thiruvananthapuram and
>Bengaluru, the Jabalpur Municipal Corporation has passed a
>resolution to rename the city to Jabalipuram.
>
>The BJP-ruled Madhya Pradesh government is also mulling renaming
>Bhopal to Bhojpal and Indore to Indur.
>The resolution was passed in the Jabalpur Municipal Corporation
>meeting on Saturday, both by BJP and Congress members. Corporators
>said the city was being renamed after a sage in the 'Ramayana'. The
>resolution has been sent to the state government.
>
>According to some BJP members, every part of the country should be
>renamed after carrying out historical analysis and research.
>
>BJP leader Anil Dave told TOI, "Post Independence, we removed
>British statues from the country. So why can't we remove the British
>names of our cities?"
>
>"It was a demand by the people of Jabalpur to name it after 'rishi'
>Jabali who had his meditation camp here," Jabalpur mayor Sushila
>Singh said. "Let us connect our city with the history and culture of
>our country. Jabalpur on the banks of river Narmada is a sacred
>place of Hindu sages."
>Congress corporator Jagat Bahadur Singh said, "Sadhus gathered in my
>ward in Narsingh and proposed that the city be renamed after sage
>Jabali. This was Congress agenda, not the BJP's."
>Renaming Bhopal to Bhojpal (the city of king Bhoj) after Bhoj Deva -
>the Paramara king who ruled the region from 1010 AD to 1055 AD and
>was a soldier, builder, scholar and patron of learning - was BJP's
>agenda.
>Bhoj Deva's position in history matched Vikramaditya Chandragupta II
>who ruled from Ujjaini (now Ujjain).
>The first attempt to connect Bhopal to Raja Bhoj was made in 2002
>when the name of the city's airport was changed to Raja Bhoj
>International Airport.
>
>--Ram
>On 12/17/06, Dilip/Dil Deka
><<mailto:dilipdeka at yahoo.com>dilipdeka at yahoo.com > wrote:
>
>Here we go again. Not being able to solve it locally, Assam has to
>appeal to Delhi to intervene.
>It is intriguing that we do not know who is instigating this change.
>The chief minister doesn't have the passion for the change. A large
>number of community organizations don't want it. Then who does?
>
>I am not commenting on the name itself but on the process. The lack
>of will to handle local problems locally is a symptom of a deeper
>complex.
>Dilip Deka
>
>
>Guwahati, Sunday, December 17, 2006
>
>'Asom' faces strong opposition
>By A Staff Reporter
> GUWAHATI, Dec 16 - Though the State Assembly passed a resolution
>yesterday on voice vote to replace 'Assam' with 'Asom' as per the
>February 27, 2006 decision of the State Cabinet, there prevails a
>strong opposition to the decision. Opposition members like Leader of
>the Opposition Brindaban Goswami, AGP's Anup Phukan and CPI's Drupad
>Bargohain were on their feet yesterday demanding discussion on the
>resolution moved by Environment and Forests Minister Rockybul
>Hussain on behalf of the State Government. But the Speaker silenced
>them saying that the stage to initiate discussion on the move was
>over.
>
>After the session was over, Anup Phukan told newsmen that even Chief
>Minister Gogoi was pronouncing the name of the State as 'Assam'. The
>Tai Ahom organizations are opposed to the idea of replacing 'Assam'
>with 'Asom'. The Government should have gone for a detailed
>discussion on the issue, Phukan said.
>
>Leader of the Opposition Brindaban Goswami said while speaking to
>this newspaper today, that the Opposition members tried yesterday to
>initiate a discussion on the issue. But they were denied any scope
>to that effect.
>
>Elaborating, Goswami said, with several organizations and scholars
>opposing the move to replace 'Assam' with 'Asom', a debate on the
>issue was on. The Government also constituted an expert committee to
>examine the issue. It was not clear as to whether the Government
>moved the resolution as per the recommendation of the expert
>committee or following its discussion with the organizations of the
>ethnic groups and the scholars, Goswami said.
>
>Meanwhile, the Tai Ahom National Council, the apex body of the Tai
>Ahom organizations, is preparing to move the court challenging the
>resolution. The Council has also decided to convene a meeting of the
>Tai Ahom organizations, the organizations of the ethnic groups like
>the Koch-Rajbongshis, the Morans and Motoks, the Deuris, the Sonowal
>Kacharis and the Chutiyas and the like-minded people who have been
>opposing the move to effect a change in the spelling. The meeting is
>planned in the city in the next week, said working president of the
>Council Dr Prabin Konwar here today.
>
>The Council, which has 12 Tai Ahom organizations as its affiliates,
>submitted a memorandum to the State Government drawing its attention
>to the historical documents, which suggest the existence of the name
>'Assam' from time immemorial, Dr Konwar said.
>
>The Council also contended the argument that Bombay became Mumbai,
>Madras became Chennai, Calcutta became Kolkata, Gauhati became
>Guwahati and Sibsagar became Sivasagar recently and this should also
>apply to 'Assam' and it should be replaced with 'Asom', saying that
>all those changes were effected only to undo the wrong committed by
>the British colonial rulers.
>
>But in the case of 'Assam', the council argued, long before the
>advent of the British colonial rulers to this part of the country,
>Sihabuddin Talis, who accompanied Mirjumla, described the State as
>'Assam'. Even Srimanta Sankaradeva described the State as Assam in
>the 14 th century AD, it argued in its memorandum to the State
>Government submitted after the February 27 decision of the State
>Cabinet.
>
>Dr Konwar said that despite large-scale opposition to the Cabinet
>decision, the Government led by Tarun Gogoi stuck to the decision
>mysteriously failing to honour the sentiments of the indigenous
>people.
>
>The Council has also decided to send memorandums to the President,
>Prime Minister and the Ministry's concerned and all the MPs from the
>NE region to veto the State Assembly resolution, Dr Konwar said.
>
>
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