[Assam] Hindu-Christian Big-Bang Theory
Himendra Thakur
hthakur at comcast.net
Thu Jun 1 04:33:37 PDT 2006
Dear Barua,
Sanatana Path --- which is called "Hinduism" by others --- is an "Eternal Way of Life" --- the word "religion" is a misnomer because it is so different.
Knowing that no idea is perfect, the Sanatana Path accepts all ideas --- from worshipping a tree to meditating about Nirvana.The central core is universal love --- "yadeva kham tadeva kam iti" --- Whatever is Sky so is Love --- I see this as the Fifth Mahavakya of India.
I request netters to tabulate the other four Mahavakya (Great Sayings) of Upanishad and discuss about it. Like you have said "This is very important for Hindus to know."
With love to everybody,
Himendra
----- Original Message -----
From: Barua25
To: Himendra Thakur
Cc: assam at assamnet.org ; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu ; Pankaj Saharia ; Dilip K. Datta
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 8:46 PM
Subject: Re: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang Theory
Himenda:
Yes the message was posted in assam.net. May be you missed it.
Thank you for your support of the Vedic view of origin of the universe which does not supports an almighty God.
This is very important for Hindus to know. If we accept this view, God actually become irrelevant in our life and Buddhism becomes very close to Hinduism.
The truth is that the world is running on its own automatically eternally without any operator controlling it. It is running under the Law of 'karmic cause and effect' and by what is called the law of 'dependent origination'. If there is a God it will have to be invented by man.
Besides Buddhism, as you have pointed out Sankhya Philosophy also states the same view and supports modern science.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Himendra Thakur
To: Barua25
Cc: assam at assamnet.org ; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu ; Pankaj Saharia ; Dilip K. Datta
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang Theory
Dear Rajen,
Thank you for this wonderful piece. I really congratulate you ! And, this came from Rik Veda, the First Book of humankind!!
I hope other netters will discuss and elucidate this teaching of "Hinduism" --- the word "Hinduism" or "Hindu" is not there in any ancient "Hindu" scriptures. This is a name the west-asians originated much later. I think we should use "Sanatana Path" --- this is open to discussion.
A discussion about Charvaka also will enrich the Assam-net.
And, then a homage to Lord Buddha !
I also request you to elaborate on Sankhya philosophy which is so close to "Particle Physics" ---- no wonder Bhagavadgita started with this !
With the best wishes,
Himendra
---- Original Message -----
From: Barua25
To: Himendra Thakur
Cc: assam at assamnet.org ; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu ; Pankaj Saharia ; Dilip K. Datta
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: Hindu-Christian Big-Bang Theory
"veda yadi va na veda"
Yes, the Nasadiya Sukta ends with a questioning....
But, after all, who knows, and who can say
Whence it all came, and how creation happened?
The gods themselves are later than creation,
so who knows truly whence it has arisen?
Whence all creation had its origin,
he, whether he fashioned it or whether he did not,
he, who surveys it all from highest heaven,
he knows - or maybe even he does not know.
Meaning: "After all, who really knows what happened and who can presume to tell it? What is the origin of creation? For, even the Gods themselves are younger than it. He whether he created it or did not, He who surveys it all from the highest heaven, He knows - or maybe even he does not!"
This end-refrain, states that even the Supreme being also may be ignorant of the mystery of creation. This actually goes to supports the Buddhist view that the universe was not created by God but is eternal. If that is the case, Buddhist view is more correct that God is irrelevent in Hinduism also. After all we donot need a God who does not know how the universe was created and who is not almighty.
This is what I say that theism is rather very week in Hindusim. In Hindusim we donot find a strong almighty God who is in charge of things like Judio-Christianity. This means the there is a higher realty, higher than Brahman, higher than the God of Gita.
I would like to know what do you think is the Hindu view of supreme God. Is he almighty or not?
>Hinduism accepted Buddha. Hinduism accepted Charvaka.
Please not that it is not the same as statement: Hinduism accepted Buddhism and Carvaksim. If you find a book please show where it tells that Hindusim believes in Buddhism and Charvakaism.
I wonder what the new definition of the Hindusim as resolved in California ended up with? Does it say that Hindusim believe as well not in a supreme God, and that in Hinduism the supreme God is not almighty God?
These are questions for discussions.
RB
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