[Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
Rajen & Ajanta Barua
barua25 at hotmail.com
Tue Jun 20 04:20:39 PDT 2006
> Then how IS He influenced by the action of men?
God's theory is not mine. But those who believe in God, worship Him and make sacrifice to Him to influence Him. Don't you think. Otherwise, can you tell me why people worship God? If you think God is not influenced by such action, then all these people must be doing something wrong. Do you have any explantion why people worship and pray and make sacrifice to God?
How is God being partial?
You think God is impartial? Why do you think so.? I see God's partiality everywhere. The corrupt, the criminal, the evil go unpunished , the innnocents getting punished, in many cases. Do you have an explanation for this?
RB? -- Original Message -----
From: Alpana B. Sarangapani
To: barua25 at hotmail.com ; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu ; xourov at yahoo.com ; assamrs at gmail.com
Cc: assam at assamnet.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 20, 2006 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
>You must be kidding!!
OK, I must have been then - if I had to view it from your viewpoint, that is.
>The very theory of God postulate that He is influenced by the action of man, He watch >the actions of man and reward the good and punish the bad. In other words, He >controls the destiny of man.
Aren't these (above) two sentences contradictory? If God controls the destiny of men, then he would be the one who would influence what they do. Then how IS He influenced by the action of men?
I would say (assuming there is a God, again): He sends them to this earth plane - a training school, leaves them alone and let them use their conscience, do the right things. THEN, if they are unable to do that, He teaches them a lesson, and that is for the benefit of these earthly people - so their soul can go up to a higher level - a step closer to Nirvana. That is, not merely because they criticize Him, but if/when they torture, kill, and make others to suffer.
And I would like to ask these again:
How is God being partial? Can affluence be eternal peace or a step closer to God?
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From: "Barua25" <barua25 at hotmail.com>
To: "Alpana B. Sarangapani" <absarangapani at hotmail.com>,<umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu>,<xourov at yahoo.com>,<assamrs at gmail.com>
CC: <assam at assamnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 21:30:36 -0500
>And if there is a God, would he be bothered by the action of the earthly people?
You must be kidding!!
The very theory of God postulate that He is influenced by the action of man, He watch the actions of man and reward the good and punish the bad. In other words, He controls the destiny of man. The theory is that if man can please Him, He will reward man with luck, wealth, power, health and happiness. That is logic why people worship Gods like Ganesha, Lakshmi, Saraswati, Durga, Vishnu, Shiva etc. According to the incarnation theory, Krishna and Rama etc incarnated because they care about earthly people, and they incarnated to bring peace and happiness to the earthly people.
Conversely, if God does not care about earthly people, why people need to care about and worship God?
If there is God, which I sincerely doubt, I believe He is not a compassionate and benevolent God. Otherwise why there is so much sufferings of the earthly people.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: Alpana B. Sarangapani
To: barua25 at hotmail.com ; umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu ; xourov at yahoo.com ; assamrs at gmail.com
Cc: assam at assamnet.org
Sent: Monday, June 19, 2006 4:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
Does having more critics make a religion more favorable to God, if there is a God? And if there is a God, would he be bothered by the action of the earthly people?
How is God being partial? Can affluence be eternal peace or a step closer to God?
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From: "Rajen Barua" <barua25 at hotmail.com>
To: umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu, xourov at yahoo.com, assamrs at gmail.com
CC: assam at assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 14:55:54 -0500
Umesh:
Frankly speaking, I doubt if God will help you.
If Rama and Krishna were genuine incarnations of God, they would have, by this time, established themselves firmly their positions against Western Christian critics. That they have not done that, shows that either there is no God or they were fake incarnations, and guys like you are trying their best to believe something which is not true.
What do you say? Do you think God is partial to Christianity?
RB
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From: umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu
To: Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>, xourov pathok <xourov at yahoo.com>, Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
CC: assam at assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses etc
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2006 16:12:16 +0100 (BST)
well I agree to that.
I need God's help again.
after eating Chinese dish -which did not mention what was in it (i avoided seafood -since my last attack in Jan-for same reasons perhaps -though my students had eye flu too) I look Chinese too - eyes are mere slits. The rashes have gone but breathing is still heavy .
Umesh
Rajen & Ajanta Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
This means the Hindus will haqve to do some homework to establish
historicity of Rama and Krsuhna. This does not mean they are all myth, but
they have to prove otherwise.
Compare these to Jesus.
RB
----- Original Message -----
From: "xourov pathok"
To: ; "Ram Sarangapani"
Cc:
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 7:47 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] beef-eating in india -myth of Jesus, Muhhamad, Moses
etc
>
>
> --- umesh sharma wrote:
>
>> Any comments about Mythical nature of Jesus, Moses
>> or Muhammad?
>> There is NO historical proof that any of the above
>> did any miraculous work to render them divine --like
>> resurrection of Christ, parting the waves crossing
>> the Red sea by Moses etc --yet despite the stories
>> circulating around them which defy human logic -they
>> are believed to have existed.
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historicity_of_Jesus
>
>
>> Why not about Ram or Krishna ( recently they have
>> even found an underwater city -adjacent Dwarka-
>> established by Krishna -as mentioned in Mahabharat
>> and other Hindu texts) -despite some
>> miraculous/illogical events?
>
> rama and krishna are given as much historicity as
> possible, according to the evidence. the underwater
> city they claim as dwarka is not confirmed. the
> problem is let alone dwarka, even hastinapur,
> indraprastha etc have not been properly identified.
> even though they have found settlements, they do not
> correspond to cities, let alone grand cities as
> depicted in the epics. this does not negate the
> possibility of a historical indraprastha, of course.
> it simply means we have not found it yet.
>
>
>
>
Umesh Sharma
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Ed.M. - International Education Policy
Harvard Graduate School of Education,
Harvard University,
Class of 2005
weblog: http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/
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