[Assam] Retract what you wrote
Himendra Thakur
hthakur at comcast.net
Wed Mar 8 18:07:22 PST 2006
Mr. Mukul Mahanta,
Your reply "I only asked" is not acceptable as an apology. Your brother Mr. Chandan Mahanta has now verified that "Mukul dada speculated on--a Hindu massacre of the 'lungi-menace' in his letter dated March 8, 2006. You did not "I only asked" --- but you accused me of a horrible crime by writing in the assam-net based on your speculation which is a blatant insinuation.
Please don't advice me "Please say "No I did not mean that way"" because I did not ask for your advice.
Please retract what you wrote and tender your formal apologies.
Truly yours,
Himendra Thakur
----- Original Message -----
From: mc mahant
To: hthakur at comcast.net
Cc: assam at assamnet.org
Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility
I only asked.
Please say" No I did not mean that way"
We are dying to hear your full story.
mm
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From: "Himendra Thakur" <hthakur at comcast.net>
To: "mc mahant" <mikemahant at hotmail.com>
CC: "J Kalita" <jugalkalita at yahoo.com>,<assam at assamnet.org>
Subject: Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:57:14 -0500
Dear Mukul,
Are you out of your mind? When did I incite "young Assam INTELLECTUALS to kill a million! Muslims?"
This is a blatant insinuation. You must take full responsibility of what you wrote.
I demand you immediately retract what you wrote and tender your apology to me.
Very truly yours,
Himendra
----- Original Message -----
From: mc mahant
To: hthakur at comcast.net
Cc: assam at assamnet.org
Sent: Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility
Dear Himendra,
You end your letters with" With Love to everybody"
Really?
At your75 years you are inciting young Assam INTELLECTUALS to kill a million! Muslims?
And you are saying 'One must take Responsibility' !!!!!
Best of luck.
mm
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From: "Himendra Thakur" <hthakur at comcast.net>
To: "Manoj Das" <dasmk2k at gmail.com>
CC: J Kalita <jugalkalita at yahoo.com>, assam at assamnet.org
Subject: Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility
Date: Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:36:06 -0500
>Dear Manoj,
>
>
>
>To your question "how can someone without authority take responsibility?" I
>must reply that the status of "with authority" or "without authority" is not
>connected with the edict that "one must take responsibility about public
>utterances that may harm millions."
>
>
>
>The word "authority" is applicable everywhere with different connotations.
>Inside the family, a father has the authority (and a great responsibility)
>to tell his little son not to touch the flame of a burning lamp, whereas,
>inside his place of work, he may be just a peon "without any authority"
>serving tea to his great sahib who had all the authority.
>
>
>
>The crux of the matter is about "public utterances". Hitler did not have any
>authority in 1922, but he made public utterances which inspired others.
>Gradually, the Nazi party was formed, and by the virtue of more public
>utterances by Hitler (who still did not have any authority), the Nazi party
>swelled in its size. Hitler finally got his authority in 1934, and World War
>II was precipitated within 5 years. 30 million people died in WWII. This is
>what is seen as "chain of events" abbreviated as "chain result" in my
>question to Chandan Mahanta.
>
>
>
>Strikingly similar to what one netter wrote in assamnet that "setting fire
>to the widow was a figment of imagination" ----- the jailed British
>historian David Irving said that "gas chambers of Auschwitz were a fairy
>tale."
>
>
>
>Although the jailed British historian David was "without authority" to "take
>responsibility" --- the Court found him "responsible" for what he said.
>
>
>
>That is the point I was trying to make in my posting under "One must Take
>Responsibility."
>
>
>
>My heart goes out for your ancestors who were lost in Manor Din. About the
>"Hurricane of History," I first wrote and published in a book as early as
>1991 --- I'll reiterate at some other time.
>
>
>
>With love to everybody,
>
>Himendra
>
>
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Manoj Das" <dasmk2k at gmail.com>
>To: "Himendra Thakur" <hthakur at comcast.net>
>Cc: "Barua25" <barua25 at hotmail.com>; <assam at assamnet.org>; "MANOJ KUMAR DAS"
><dasmk at hotmail.com>; "J Kalita" <jugalkalita at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:56 PM
>Subject: Re: One must Take Responsibility
>
>
>Dear Himedrada
>
>Well we got carried away to something else. In any case, how can
>somone without authority take responsibility? Even person like Lord
>Louis Mountbatten faltered or allowed it to happen by design, as a
>price for the ultimate divide and festering damage. Hindit eta kotha
>ase "bhai jeisa dost nahin aur bhai jeisa dushman bhi nahin'.
>
>There wil be millions who will be lost again in the hurricanes of
>history, like the Hindus and Muslims of India who are lost and god
>knows when this hurricane will stop! Thats probably by will of nature
>which programmed species to mix from time to time without traces of
>the past.
>
>Personally, my family lost our roots during 'manor din'. My great
>great great grandfather's family ran to the forests of Dhemaji in a
>boat alongwith 6 other families. These 7 families became 7 villages in
>course of time. But we have no clue about our other kith and kins who
>used to inhabit near Dibru river in nineteenth century.
>
>Regards
>Manoj
>
>
>
>On 2/25/06, Himendra Thakur <hthakur at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Dear Rajen,
> >
> > The topic for the subject "One must Take Responsibility" was not
> > bride-burning in India. That came up as a simile, similar to jewish
> > holocaust, which was denied by the jailed British historian David Irving.
> >
> > Denied by the society in general, Bride-burning is a heartrending tragedy,
> > and no wonder everyone got excited and forgot the original issue.
> >
> > The original issue was that one must take responsibility about public
> > utterances that may harm millions.
> >
> > To my question
> > "Dear Chandan, Since you "do support the 'sovereignty ' aspirations or
> > demands", when Assam becomes independent as a result of your support, will
> > you take responsibility if millions of people lose their lives in Assam as
>a
> > chain result of the independence and sovereignty ? Will you take
> > responsibility ?",
> >
> > Chandan Mahanta could not say that he would take the responsibility.
> >
> > Instead Chandan Mahanta asked me back: "You will need to explain how you
>see
> > that happening, before I can give you an answer."
> >
> > IN OTHER WORDS, Chandan has been pleading for "independence and
>sovereignty
> > " of Assam without even thinking of all the pros and cons. Now he wants me
> > to think for him.
> >
> > This is a case of grave irresponsibility. The tragic analogy was what
> > Mountbatten said before partition of India in 1947. When asked what he
>would
> > do if communal rioting broke up in Pakistan and India after his "pet
> > project" of partition, Mountbatten retorted vehemently that he would use
> > army and airforce to stop communal rioting.
> >
> > In reality, he did not do any such thing. 1 million people lost their
>lives
> > and several millions got injured & lost everything as a result of
>partition.
> >
> > Chandan Mahanta is running his "pet project" of "independence and
> > sovereignty " of Assam from a safe distance of the USA. When asked about
> > taking responsibility, he is unusually quiet.
> >
> > I hope the young intellectuals of assamnet will see the light.
> >
> > With the best wishes,
> > Himendra
> >
>
>
>--
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