[Assam] 10 day notice

Thu Mar 9 05:49:42 PST 2006

Dear Himen da, Mukul da, and C'da,

All of you make the net immensely interesting and most of the netters
acquire valuable information/anecdotes from each of you. It is distressing
to note the tone/tenor of the exchanges of late.

In my humble opinion, many of us look upon you all, often, for guidance and
tell us where we have gone wrong and my hope is that things discussed on the
net not be taken into such levels of seriousness. It is thoroughly
understandable that some comments be taken as an affront, but for the sake
of friendship and understanding that a 'cooling off' period be taken.

Other netters (I am sure) will join me in saying that this is not enjoyable
and we all look forward to your continued contributions to the net.

If I am speaking out of turn here, please do forgive me - I am just trying
to speak my heart here.

As for me, I really look forward to Himen da's resources of experience and
anecdotes, of Mukul da's often cryptic/incisive remarks and take on issues,
and to C'da's steadfast commitment to issues he believes in.
I sincerely hope we can get back to discussing issues.

--Ram

On 3/9/06, Himendra Thakur <hthakur at comcast.net> wrote:
>
>  Mr. Mukul Mahanta,
>
> This is now a 10 day notice to you
> (1) to retract your accusation that I incited "young Assam INTELLECTUALS
> to kill a million! Muslims?"
> and
> (2) to tender your formal apologies.
>
> After 10 days, I'll send this matter to my attorneys.
>
> Yours truly,
> Himendra Thakur
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* mc mahant <mikemahant at hotmail.com>
> *To:* hthakur at comcast.net
> *Cc:* assam at assamnet.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 09, 2006 2:08 AM
> *Subject:* RE: Retract what you wrote
>
>
>
> You learn English and read your own postings first.
>
> mm
>
> ------------------------------
> From: *"Himendra Thakur" <hthakur at comcast.net>*
> To: *"mc mahant" <mikemahant at hotmail.com>*
> CC: *"Indrajit Barua" <ibarua at yahoo.com>,"Manoj<ibarua at yahoo.com%3E,%22Manoj>Das" <
> dasmk2k at gmail.com>,"Chan <dasmk2k at gmail.com%3E,%22Chan> Mahanta" <
> cmahanta at charter.net>,<assam at assamnet.org<cmahanta at charter.net%3E,%3Cassam at assamnet.org>
> >*
> Subject: *Retract what you wrote*
> Date: *Wed, 8 Mar 2006 21:07:22 -0500*
>
> Mr. Mukul Mahanta,
>
> Your reply "I only asked" is not acceptable as an apology. Your brother
> Mr. Chandan Mahanta has now verified that "Mukul dada speculated on--a
> Hindu massacre of the 'lungi-menace' in his letter dated March 8, 2006. You
> did not "I only asked" --- but you accused me of a horrible crime by
> writing in the assam-net based on your speculation which is
> a blatant insinuation.
>
> Please don't advice me "Please say  "No I did not mean that way"" because
> I  did not ask for your advice.
>
> Please retract what you wrote and tender your formal apologies.
>
> Truly yours,
> Himendra Thakur
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* mc mahant <mikemahant at hotmail.com>
> *To:* hthakur at comcast.net
> *Cc:* assam at assamnet.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, February 26, 2006 2:30 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility
>
>
>
> I only asked.
>
> Please say" No I did not mean that way"
>
> We are dying to hear your full story.
>
> mm
>
>  ------------------------------
> From: *"Himendra Thakur" <hthakur at comcast.net>*
> To: *"mc mahant" <mikemahant at hotmail.com>*
> CC: *"J Kalita" <jugalkalita at yahoo.com>,<assam at assamnet.org<jugalkalita at yahoo.com%3E,%3Cassam at assamnet.org>
> >*
> Subject: *Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility*
> Date: *Sat, 25 Feb 2006 22:57:14 -0500*
>
> Dear Mukul,
>
> Are you out of your mind? When did I incite "young Assam INTELLECTUALS to
> kill a million! Muslims?"
>
> This is a blatant insinuation. You must take full responsibility of what
> you wrote.
>
> I demand you immediately retract what you wrote and tender your apology to
> me.
>
> Very truly yours,
> Himendra
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> *From:* mc mahant <mikemahant at hotmail.com>
> *To:* hthakur at comcast.net
> *Cc:* assam at assamnet.org
> *Sent:* Saturday, February 25, 2006 9:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility
>
>
>
> Dear Himendra,
>
> You end your letters with"  With Love to everybody"
>
> Really?
>
> At your75 years you are inciting young Assam INTELLECTUALS to kill a
> million! Muslims?
>
> And you are saying 'One must take Responsibility' !!!!!
>
> Best of luck.
>
> mm
>
>  ------------------------------
> From:  *"Himendra Thakur" <hthakur at comcast.net>*
> To:  *"Manoj Das" <dasmk2k at gmail.com>*
> CC:  *J Kalita <jugalkalita at yahoo.com>, assam at assamnet.org*
> Subject:  *Re: [Assam] One must Take Responsibility*
> Date:  *Sat, 25 Feb 2006 08:36:06 -0500*
> >Dear Manoj,
> >
> >
> >
> >To your question "how can someone without authority take
> responsibility?"  I
> >must reply that the status of "with authority" or "without authority" is
> not
> >connected with the edict that "one must take responsibility about public
> >utterances that may harm millions."
> >
> >
> >
> >The word "authority" is applicable everywhere with different
> connotations.
> >Inside the family, a father has the authority (and a great
> responsibility)
> >to tell his little son not to touch the flame of a burning lamp, whereas,
> >inside his place of work, he may be just a peon "without any authority"
> >serving tea to his great sahib who had all the authority.
> >
> >
> >
> >The crux of the matter is about "public utterances". Hitler did not have
> any
> >authority in 1922, but he made public utterances which inspired others.
> >Gradually, the Nazi party was formed, and by the virtue of more public
> >utterances by Hitler (who still did not have any authority), the Nazi
> party
> >swelled in its size. Hitler finally got his authority in 1934, and World
> War
> >II was precipitated within 5 years. 30 million people died in WWII. This
> is
> >what is seen as "chain of events" abbreviated as "chain result" in my
> >question to Chandan Mahanta.
> >
> >
> >
> >Strikingly similar to what one netter wrote in assamnet that  "setting
> fire
> >to the widow was a figment of imagination" ----- the jailed British
> >historian David Irving said that "gas chambers of Auschwitz were a fairy
> >tale."
> >
> >
> >
> >Although the jailed British historian David was "without authority" to
> "take
> >responsibility" --- the Court found him "responsible" for what he said.
> >
> >
> >
> >That is the point I was trying to make in my posting under "One must Take
> >Responsibility."
> >
> >
> >
> >My heart goes out for your ancestors who were lost in Manor Din. About
> the
> >"Hurricane of History," I first wrote and published in a book as early as
> >1991 --- I'll reiterate at some other time.
> >
> >
> >
> >With love to everybody,
> >
> >Himendra
> >
> >
> >
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Manoj Das" <dasmk2k at gmail.com>
> >To: "Himendra Thakur" <hthakur at comcast.net>
> >Cc: "Barua25" <barua25 at hotmail.com>; <assam at assamnet.org>; "MANOJ KUMAR
> DAS"
> ><dasmk at hotmail.com>; "J Kalita" <jugalkalita at yahoo.com>
> >Sent: Friday, February 24, 2006 11:56 PM
> >Subject: Re: One must Take Responsibility
> >
> >
> >Dear Himedrada
> >
> >Well we got carried away to something else. In any case, how can
> >somone without authority take responsibility? Even person like Lord
> >Louis Mountbatten faltered or allowed it to happen by design, as a
> >price for the ultimate divide and festering damage. Hindit eta kotha
> >ase "bhai jeisa dost nahin aur bhai jeisa dushman bhi nahin'.
> >
> >There wil be millions who will be lost again in the hurricanes of
> >history, like the Hindus and Muslims of India who are lost and god
> >knows when this hurricane will stop! Thats probably by will of nature
> >which programmed species to mix from time to time without traces of
> >the past.
> >
> >Personally, my family lost our roots during 'manor din'. My great
> >great great grandfather's family ran to the forests of Dhemaji in a
> >boat alongwith 6 other families. These 7 families became 7 villages in
> >course of time. But we have no clue about our other kith and kins who
> >used to inhabit near Dibru river in nineteenth century.
> >
> >Regards
> >Manoj
> >
> >
> >
> >On 2/25/06, Himendra Thakur <hthakur at comcast.net> wrote:
> > > Dear Rajen,
> > >
> > > The topic for the subject "One must Take Responsibility" was not
> > > bride-burning in India. That came up as a simile, similar to jewish
> > > holocaust, which was denied by the jailed British historian David
> Irving.
> > >
> > > Denied by the society in general, Bride-burning is a heartrending
> tragedy,
> > > and no wonder everyone got excited and forgot the original issue.
> > >
> > > The original issue was that one must take responsibility about public
> > > utterances that may harm millions.
> > >
> > > To my question
> > > "Dear Chandan, Since you "do support the 'sovereignty ' aspirations or
> > > demands", when Assam becomes independent as a result of your support,
> will
> > > you take responsibility if millions of people lose their lives in
> Assam as
> >a
> > > chain result of the  independence and sovereignty ? Will you take
> > > responsibility ?",
> > >
> > > Chandan Mahanta could not say that he would take the responsibility.
> > >
> > > Instead Chandan Mahanta asked me back: "You will need to explain how
> you
> >see
> > > that happening, before I can give you an answer."
> > >
> > > IN OTHER WORDS, Chandan has been pleading for "independence and
> >sovereignty
> > > " of Assam without even thinking of all the pros and cons. Now he
> wants me
> > > to think for him.
> > >
> > > This is a case of grave irresponsibility. The tragic analogy was what
> > > Mountbatten said before partition of India in 1947. When asked what he
> >would
> > > do if communal rioting broke up in Pakistan and India after his "pet
> > > project" of partition, Mountbatten retorted vehemently that he would
> use
> > > army and airforce to stop communal rioting.
> > >
> > > In reality, he did not do any such thing. 1 million people lost their
> >lives
> > > and several millions got injured & lost everything as a result of
> >partition.
> > >
> > > Chandan Mahanta is running his "pet project" of  "independence and
> > > sovereignty " of Assam from a safe distance of the USA. When asked
> about
> > > taking responsibility, he is unusually quiet.
> > >
> > > I hope the young intellectuals of assamnet will see the light.
> > >
> > > With the best wishes,
> > > Himendra
> > >
> >
> >
> >--
> >Manoj Kumar Das
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> >New Delhi 110017 India
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> >
> >
> >
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