[Assam] Submission of Memorandum Required
Ram Sarangapani
assamrs at gmail.com
Thu Mar 23 11:50:47 PST 2006
This is a sad situation where it looks like the GOA is ONLY listening to one
person, ie : Mr. Chandra Prasad Saikia. Wouldn't it be wise on the part of
the GOA to call for name suggestions first (if indeed a change was
necessary), before taking the plunge.
Now, if they were to cahnge it again, there will again be controversy. I
seriously doubt if they will even entertain any suggestions from th public.
--Ram
On 3/23/06, Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks. First we have to make Mr Chandra Prasad Saikia (correct Assamese
> phonetic spelling: Sondro Proxad Xoikia), the prime mover of the proposal
> see his mistake and agree that ASOM (people will pronounce A as in 'act', S
> as in Sun, etc ) is really a 'bhusung-pohu' spelling and does not make any
> sense ate all. That spelling will destroy two things: The Assamese X sound
> in OXOM (we already lost the X sound in Saikia, Sarma etc) and the
> Assamese-Mongolian name ASAM). We should convince him that he has done a
> great damage to the Assamese people. He should therfore now write another
> editiorial in his Garaiyashi (correct spelling Assamese phonetic spelling
> 'Gorioxi') stating that if there is any need for change of the name at all,
> it should to ASAM and not ASOM. If he does that, GOA will automatically pull
> out from ASOM and go for ASAM.
> Rajen Barua
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Praantik Barua <praantik_barua at yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> ; webmaster at assam.org
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 1:16 PM
> *Subject:* Submission of Memorandum Required
>
>
>
> * I wrote to the Tribune and The Sentinel today. But, some more
> voices would be required to bring the matter into notice. Hope u and many
> others to send mails appealing for "ASAM". *
> * Infact, both NRAs and RAs ought to submit a memorandum to the
> Govt of Asom/ Assam (?), as well as to the Govt of India demanding the
> change to be "ASAM" and not "ASOM". That would be the best way to make
> public opinion heard to the otherwise deaf Govt out here.*
> **
> **
> *
> Regards,*
> *
> Praantik
> *
> *Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
> * If there should be any change at all, then it ought to be "ASAM" and not
> "ASOM". *
> **
> I will agree with you on this point.
> This way we donot have any controversy at all.
> *People will pronounce the way it is written ASAM.(ie both As as in Father
> and S as in Sun)*
> No problem.
> Would you now write a letter to the Editor in any newspaper to that
> effect?
> That will be one correct voice in midst of so many noises going on with
> wrong voices.
> Rajen Barua
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Praantik Barua <praantik_barua at yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 23, 2006 12:13 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] Fwd: Enough of this Controversy !
>
>
>
> * Personally, I am in favour of the word "ASAM". "ASSAM"
> is in accordance with the pronunciation of the British traders of the
> erstwhile East India Co. No native stresses on the second 'S' in "Assam".
> Also, in the pre-British era, it was inscribed as "ASAM" in the documents
> and not "ASSAM". If there should be any change at all, then it ought to be
> "ASAM" and not "ASOM". That also helps in retaining the brand name. I hope
> you and many would agree to this point.*
> * Look, the legal formalities which must be completed before
> using the new name "Asom" has not yet been done. As such, we can garner
> public opinion in favour of the word "ASAM" instead of "ASOM".*
> **
> *
> *
> *
> With all best wishes,*
> *
> Praantik*
> **
>
>
> *Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Regarding the name Assam, I think this is what happened.
> The British listened to the local pronunciation, and found that the /S/
> phoneme which resembles the sound most is the /SS/ as used in their words
> such as 'issue', 'tissue' etc. Please note that /SS/ phoneme has the
> sound like /sh/. Anyhow that is how we got the double SS I think.
> Aren't you happy that we have SS in the word Assam instead of a single S?
> I am sure many like me would like the present spelling Assam which has now
> been established as an International brand name known all over the world
> either for Assam Tea, Assam Silk, Assam Oil, or for (Dinjan and
> Chabua) Assam etc.
> Let us keep it.
> We have much more important things to worry about.
> Like the Assam;s economy as revealed in the report per the following link.
> Assam's Economy:
> http://planningcommission.nic.in/plans/stateplan/sdr_assam/sp_sdrassam.htm
>
> Rajen Barua
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Praantik Barua <praantik_barua at yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> ; webmaster at assam.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 22, 2006 1:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] Fwd: Enough of this Controversy !
>
>
> **
> * "Asam" might be ours. But "Assam" is definitely the one of the
> British colonial masters of yore.*
> **
> *
> Best
> wishes,*
> *
> Praantik*
>
>
> *Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
> Frankly speaking, even is others call us *OkSOM* instead of* OXOM*, I
> don't see what is the problem.
> Let others pronounce it wrong. We mispronounce mexico all the time.
> They will mispronounce it with *ASOM* anyway and will say *ESOM* or *USOM*
> .
> My million dollar question is why we are worrying for people saying *OkSOM
> * and not worrying if they call us *ESOM or USOM?.*
> And why we want to change the beautiful Mongoloid International name *
> ASSAM* anyway. That is our Mongolian name, and people are pronouncing it
> right.
> What is our problem?
> *Amar ki ukohe khaise?*
> It bits me.
> RB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Praantik Barua <praantik_barua at yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> ; webmaster at assam.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2006 12:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] Fwd: Enough of this Controversy !
>
>
>
> * I agree to ur points. But just see the way people pronounce the
> words like Xavier (with reference to St. Xavier), X-mas, Excuse etc.*
> **
> * Well, I believe that when the State surges ahead
> economically, the whole world would try to pronounce the way we do. It
> wouldn't matter even if it is written as Asom, Asam, Osom, Oxom et al. However
> the bright side of the change is the dropping of the second 'S' from
> "Assam". Now, we have to prove that our state is "Asam" not "Assam" and we
> the people are not "Ass-amese" but "Asamese" / "Asamiya". Isn't it ?*
> **
> **
> *
> Regards,*
> *
> Praantik*
>
>
> *Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com>* wrote:
>
> *> A layman who has no idea about the symbol 'X' according to the codes of
> the IPA (International Phonetics Association), can hardly pronounce >AXOM /
> OXOM properly.*
> **
> If you don't mind let me ask you the question back. How a layman has the
> idea what sound to pronounce for X for the following
>
> English words?
>
> *xenophobia / xylophone / axiom /examination /excise / exit*
>
> Or Chinese name : *Xingjiang*
> Or Spanish name : *Mexico*
> Or Russian : *Xruschev, Chexov*
> Or Greek: *Xarish*
>
> The answer to all these is that we will have to learn the correct
> pronounciation of X in all these words in different language. Even in
> English we cannot take it for granted that it will be pronounced as X in Box
> all the time. Similarly people will have to learn the correct pronunciation
> of X in Oxom, Xongkordev, Xotriya, Xukanguri etc in Assamese.
>
> And how do we teach people?
> Very simple, we simply tell that the X in Assamese is pronounced like
>
> *X = kh, a guttural sound pronounced as 'ch' as in the Scottich word
> 'Loch' or german word 'Bach', or Zurich etc*
>
> Now against the above, what we have on the table:
>
> ASOM :(Ppronounced ESOM)
> *How do we teach people to pronounce S in ASOM? *
> S as in Sun or S as in kh =?
>
> I wil write leter why the first vowel need to be O and not A for OXOM.
>
> RB
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Praantik Barua <praantik_barua at yahoo.co.in>
> *To:* Rajen Barua <barua25 at hotmail.com> ; webmaster at assam.org
> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 21, 2006 5:59 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Assam] Fwd: Enough of this Controversy !
>
>
>
> * Thats very true. *
> * A layman who has no idea about the symbol 'X' according to the
> codes of the IPA (International Phonetics Association), can hardly pronounce
> AXOM / OXOM properly. But at least the Sahitya Sabha Stalwarts ought to be
> aware of the significance of 'X' and re-christen the "ASS" as Asom Xahitya
> Xabha (AXX). I am leaving out the word "Asom" (for as I said, a lot of
> controversy surrounds it).*
> * Anyways, thanx for ur mail.*
> **
> *
> Regards,*
> *
> Praantik
> *
> all the time.
>
>
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