[Assam] Remember These?

[Ram Sarangapani]

C'da,
>Disclaimer to Ram: It is not intended for Bamun-bashing Ram :-).

No such disclaimer needed. I saw the stuff by PN Oak. All I know about him
was that we were forced to know of him (famous historian) at middle or high
school. His views so seem to be a streatch.
But its like anything else : The Chinese claim to have invented or
discovered almost everything (just like many Indians do). Some religions
claim that they are constantly changing with the times, most modern etc -
yet some among them still possess the metality of the middle ages.
Who knows whats true & whats not. My guess is such claims by countries or
groups help boost their ego and some chest-thumping.
But other than that - nothing really comes out of these claims.

BTW: Way back in 2004, did I perchance say just the opposite of what I am
saying now - would be interesting to know, but whatever the case, I reserve
the right to change my views anytime :):)

--Ram


On 3/28/06, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
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>  Somewhat accidentally, I ran into these exchanges in assamnet from 2002.
> Remember these ?
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> cm
> Disclaimer to Ram: It is not intended for Bamun-bashing Ram :-). Just to
> show that these are arguments from desi-intellectuals!
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> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/alnane/message/26
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> *From:* Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at earthlink.net>
> *Date:* Tue Jan 22, 2002  1:24 pm
> *Subject:* Three easy pieces from : www.hinduism.co.za
>  cmahanta at earthlink.net
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> Rajen: Look at third paragraph. My guess was wrong :-).
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> Alpana: Do you think "Hindu shame" has been built on things like these
> :-)?
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> Was the Kaaba Originally a Hindu Temple?
> By  P.N. Oak (Historian)
>
> Glancing through some research material recently, I was pleasantly
> surprised
> to come across a reference to a king Vikramaditya inscription found in the
> Kaaba in Mecca proving beyond doubt that the Arabian Peninsula formed a
> part of his Indian Empire.The text of the crucial Vikramaditya
> inscription,
> found inscribed on a gold dish hung inside the Kaaba shrine in Mecca, is
> found recorded on page 315 of a volume  known as 'Sayar-ul-Okul' treasured
> in the Makhtab-e-Sultania library in Istanbul, Turkey.
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> The status of a Brahmana is incapable
> of acquisition by persons begotten
> on uncleansed souls.
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> KSHATRIYA,VAISYA AND SUDRA CANNOT BECOME BRAHMANA
> THE MAHABHARATA, ANUSASANA PARVA
> sec.XXVIII,
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> Bhishma said:The status of a Brahmana is incapable of acquisition by a
> person belonging to any of the three other orders. That status is the
> highest with
> respect to all creatures. Travelling through innumerable orders of
> existence, by undergoing repeated births, one at last, in some birth,
> becomes born as a Brahmana. The status of a Brahmana is incapable of
> acquisition by persons begotten on uncleansed souls. The status
> of a Brahmana, which is the foremost of everything, is incapable of being
> won by penances.That status is really incapable of being
> obtained by persons of uncleansed souls.
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> Brahmanas and Sudras
> >From Tulasi Ramayana
> Aranya Kanda 32-33
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>   Addressing a Gandharva (Kabandha resurrected as Gandharva)
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> Sri Rama said: Listen, O Gandharva, to what I tell you: I cannot tolerate
> an enemy of the Brahamanas (Brahmins). He who without guile in
> thought, word and deed does service to the Brahmanas (the very gods on
> earth), wins over Brahma, Siva, Myself and all other divinities.
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> A Brahmana, even though he curses you, beats you or speaks harsh words to
> you, is still worthy of adoration: so declare the saints. A
> Brahmana must be respected, though lacking in amiability and virtue; not
> so
> a Sudra, though possessing a host of virtues and rich in
> knowledge.
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