[Assam] Fwd: What a shame! YOUR Qs ANSWERED IN CAPS
umesh sharma
jaipurschool at yahoo.com
Thu Oct 12 17:50:41 PDT 2006
this is probably true : a discussion group has its limitations -- we should perhaps get a building and other stuff -- like United Nations or World Bank to get something done!!
*****You can get some great ideas here. But these ideas are only born here. you have to take them out of Assam net, nurture and implement them on your own if you really want to do something for this land. Don't count on anyone to give support. They won't because they can't
Umesh
Nayanjyoti Medhi <nayanjyoti.medhi at gmail.com> wrote:
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From: Nayanjyoti Medhi <nayanjyoti.medhi at gmail.com>
Date: Oct 13, 2006 1:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] What a shame! YOUR Qs ANSWERED IN CAPS
To: Jyoti Kumar Das <jkdas_2002 at yahoo.com>
Hi Momy !
let me introduce myself first. I'm Nayanjyoti Medhi. A Lawyer practising in Gauhati High Court and a self appointed observer of Assam net ( I was a participant /wanted to participate like you did, and finally decided that a silent observer is sometimes a better role and yes a worthy one to be played in Assam net.). I fully agree with Jyoti Kumar Das.
I am not writing this mail to you advice you on something as others have done. Infact i have written this mail to you because I think you have/had some great ideas and i would suggest that you carry out those and then join the discussion on the Assam net. I had somekind of a same experience as you have. I had some suggestions for the Assam net members and then I was called a RAW agent for advising the know it alls. But anyways, the people of Assam do not need these discussions to make this a better land. They need someone who can bring out the ground reality and act on that. If only they knew that my father was arrested by the Government of Assam, they might not have called me a RAW agent. But then the Assam net is not totally useless. You can get some great ideas here. But these ideas are only born here. you have to take them out of Assam net, nurture and implement them on your own if you really want to do something for this land. Don't count on anyone to give support.
They won't because they can't. They don't have the means to implement something. They can sit on net for hours and argue about the name of this State but they won't help you make a website. They are not bothered that everyday dozens of youth are being killed in the name of liberation. they are not concerned about the fact that our generation is being killed. they are concerned about a name. they dont know who are hungry. they are not concerned about unemployment, they talk about apologies and reconsideration. silly people really.
anyways sorry for taking so much of your time. Please ignore if the above written doesnot bring out any meaning.
Nayanjyoti Medhi
On 10/13/06, Jyoti Kumar Das <jkdas_2002 at yahoo.com > wrote: Dear Momy,
I like your spirit, commitment and purpose. You did what I wanted to do a long time back. I noticed this happening earlier as well. Ther are a couple of members in the forum who like to actively participate in the discussions and keep it going as long as possible. Maybe its good for them, but I don't have so much time to indulge and keep a debate / topic of discussion / or rather a string going (as it is known in the IT world).
I remember reading a mail from one of the members, who mentioned how active the forum is and how erring members are "dressed down" and thats exactly whats happening at this moment. I don't see why someone should feel intimidated by confrontation from younger memebers. If you can show reasoning and wisdom of judgement with your experience, please do so. Don't try to dress down members.
Momy has raised a valid point, if you can contribute in any way then do so. If there is nothing to contribute from your experience then don't justify your actions and use words like naivity. Your actions speak for itself, so don't point fingers at others. Remeber when you point one finger, four of your fingers are pointing at you.
Momy, you need to stay on and try a "redress" the actions on the net.
Cheers
Jyoti Das
Momy Saikia <saikia_m at hotmail.com> wrote:
Hi Momy (HELLO MR MAHANTA):
I was disappointed to read your note on the disappointments of your
own (YOU SHOULD BE AND EVERYONE ELSE BECAUSE YOU COULDN'T APPRAISE AN
YOUTH'S OPINION).
Allow me to share a little observation of mine, with the hope that
you will take a moment of your precious time to ponder(I ALWAYS HAVE TIME
FOR ANY CONSTRUCTIVE CRITICISM AS ITS ONE OF THE REASONS BEHIND MY
DEVELOPMENT):
Expectations is the mother of all disappointments!" (WELL IF YOU ASK
ME...EXPECTATION IS THE MOTHER OF ACHIEVEMENT)..... Is it catchy or
what? (ITS DEGRADING THE TERM FOR ME SO NOT CATCHY AT ALL SIR) Remember you
heard it here first :-)( I NEVER HEARD OF IT AND EVEN IF I DID, I WOULDN'T
MAKE SENSE OF IT BECAUSE THESE PROVERBS ARE OUTCOME OF SOMEONE'S EXPERIENCE
NOT MINE).
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>The point is that you had expectations of assamnetters (NEVER DID, THATS
>YOUR PRESSUMPTION); does not matter if they are realistic, meaningful,
>useful, or otherwise(ANY INTELLIGENT BEING WOULD AGREE THAT TAKING AN
>ACTION TO HELP SOMEONE ISN'T UNREALISTIC, NON MEANINGFULL OR USELESS). And
>since those were not met (TRUE), you are leaving the forum (LEAVING THE
>FORUM BECAUSE, I WOULD RATHER INVEST TIME IN ACTIONS THAN DISCUSSIONS WHICH
>LEADS ME NOWHERE BUT RESULTS IN RESENTMENT TOWARDS DIFFERENT PEOPLE OR GOVT
>IN THE END), in a huff (WELLCOME TO THE 21st CENTURY, IF YOU NEED SOMETHING
>DONE THAN DO IT NOW),
waving your own virtues(CAUSE I BELIEVE IN THEM UNLIKE MOST OF YOU),
imagined or real(ABSOLUTELY REAL AND SO I AM ABLE TO PUT THEM INTO ACTIONS),
for others to see and go (ACTUALLY TO IRK MINDS LIKE YOU...THE POSITIVE
OUTCOME OF MY MAIL IS THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE MAILED ME IN PERSON OFFERING
HELP TO BUILD A SITE...BUT YOU AGAIN TOOK TIME TO WRITE ME A PAGE FULL OF
YOUR OPINION ABOUT ME AND WANTING A DEBATE OUT OF IT) ( --Wow! What a young
lady of action she is (SURE I AM, ELSE I WOULDN'T HAVE THE CONFIDENCE TO
POINT AT THE "WORDS ONLY" GROUP).
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>But I understand ( I SERIOUSLY HOPE YOU DO). Most do(AGAIN I CAN HOPE THAT
>THEY DO). We have seen them all here (THIS COULD ONLY MEAN TO ME THAT YOU
>HAVE BEEN POSTING YOUR OPINIONS ON THIS SITE SINCE IT FIRST STARTED). Good
>news (NOT REALLY CAUSE YOU ARE WASTING YOUR TIME)
>however is that you are young (JUST 25, LOT OF EXPECTATIONS YET), and
>hopefully still open to learning (I WOULDN'T BE DEVELOPING IF I WASNT OPEN
>TO LEARNING)
>new tricks unlike some old us old dogs (DONOT EVER HUMILIATE YOURSELF...NO
>ONE CALLS YOU THAT , I AM SURE) . And it is NOT a beauty contest (I DO
>UNDERSTAND SIR, SEEKING HELP FROM YOU GUYS TO HELP OTHERS ISN'T A THOUGHT
>OF A BEAUTY ONLY...BEAUTY+BRAINS) here -- to prove what a hot-s--t one is
>or not (NOT TRYING TO PROVE ANYTHING..DO READ MY MAIL ONCE MORE) :-).
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>New tricks? (TRICKS???THOUGHT I WAS STRAIGHT FORWARD) Indeed. You have
>shown how naive(WITH ALL DUE RESPECT SIR, INSPITE OF YOUR AGE YOU HAVE NO
>RIGHT TO USE "SUCH" WORDS AGAINST ME) you are about some of your
>assumptions (ASSUMPTIONS GET YOU STARTED WITH ANY PROBLEM), beliefs ( CAUSE
>I BELEIVE IN THEM) and expectations(TO BE ABLE TO ACHIEVE, I NEED TO
>EXPECT), from the few notes you posted here(FEW BUT SUBSTANTIAL). I won't
>go into details now(YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME IF YOU WANT TO), but if you
>would like for me to, I will be pleased to take them up for discussion at a
>later time.(WHY PRIVATE..IT STARTED IN A PUBLIC FORUM, KEEP IT THAT WAY)>
>But that is nothing new (YOUR OPINION AGAIN SIR). You are not alone in your
>naivete (I WOULD BE GLAD IF YOU ARE NOT ONE OF MY KIND THAN). We have all
>been there(HAVE YOU??NOT REALLY OR ELSE YOU WON'T BE STILL A MEMBER OF THE
>FORUM). Again good news is that we can shed them(NO INTENSIONS OF SHEDDING
>MY QUALITIES). How? Yes, by talking(TALK AND TALK AND TALK SO THAT BY THE
>TIME I AM OF YOUR AGE, I WILL SHARE MY OPINION WITH A YOUNGER MEMBER IN THE
>EXACT SAME WAY AS YOU HAVE DONE). By
>debating, discussing and deliberating and by paying attention(I DON'T HAVE
>TIME FOR PROLONGED DISCUSSIONS OR DEBATES).
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>You may ask: But isn't that a waste of time? Aren't you guys just blowing
>air, accomplishing NOTHING? (THERE YOU GO..SEE YOU FINALLY KNOW ME BETTER)
>
>Well, it would be, IF that is ALL we do (YOU WOULD KNOW BETTER).
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>See Momy, discussing and debating the issues we do, is NOT mutually
>exclusive of doing something concrete(WHICH I QUITE WELL UNDERSTOOD EVEN
>BEFORE YOU MENTIONED).
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>That is what you fail to recognize(MAYBE, THANK U FOR TAKING THE EFFORT TO
>MAKE ME REALISE). Again, no harm done. You have a lot of time to learn(I
>AGREE WITH YOU THERE).
>
>Many netters do many things--for their own betterment and for others' too.
>Not all talk of their actions or contributions. And besides, there is
>ALWAYS a whole lot more to the persona of these people than what their
>posts in assamnet may indicate. It will do you good to be aware of
>that(PLEASE MAKE ME AWARE OF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE SO FAR AS YOU CLAIM TO BE
>OLD ..YOU HAVE HAD YOUR WHOLE LIFE AHEAD).
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>What is important to recognize however, is that those who know better, or
>are expected to know better--people like yourselves, cannot and must not
>remain smug in your own righteousness, your self-image of a person of
>action, like you assert(WELL THAN POINT ME TOWARDS THE RIGHT DIRECTION,
>DONT ASK ME TO ARGUE, DEBATE AND DISCUSS). For if you do, you will be NO
>DIFFERENT from those who you perceive, albeit on scant and superficial
>evidence of assamnet posts, to be mere hot-air blowers, or having little to
>contribute towards what YOU consider meaningful. What is meaningful can
>come in many, many forms(JUST AN EXAMPLE FROM YOU IS WHAT I AM REQUESTING
>FOR..BESIDES I CLEARLY MENTIONED TWO CATEGORIES IN MY CONCLUDING
>LINE..PLEASE READ IT).
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>Another thing is that, we know, often a new member would leave in a huff,
>because netters' criticisms/comments hurt their sense of what they hold
>dear(I BELEIVE IN MYSELF AND SOME INDIVIDUAL WHO IS VIRTUALLY KNOW TO ME
>JUST CANT HURT ME WITH WORDS..IT WILL TAKE YOU LOT MORE): Often myths
>associated with their realities or their beliefs (AGAIN FIRM BELEIEFS). And
>being unable or unwilling to articulate a defense of their own values and
>views, they would cite others' 'egos' or pro-this or anti-that or
>full-of-hot-air-ness(NOT ME...BUT YOUR MAIL COULD BE A CLASSIC EXAMPLE).
>This is the quintessential "Urohi-gosor-wrtw-onyo-korbat" syndrome(TAR MANE
>NUBUJILU). There is only one cure for it: SPEAK UP, defend what you
>believe(I ALWAYS DO CAUSE I HAVE NO FEAR OR SECOND THOUGHTS..I AM CONFIDENT
>AND ALWAYS SPEAK OF THINGS I CAN DEFEND IF NECESSARY). You will be
>surprised, that you CAN educate others(I KNOW THAT). And we will all be the
>better for it.
>
>Gave you an earful, didn't I :-)?(I CAN ABSORB MORE BUT DONT'T MAKE IT A
>HABBIT)
>
>Take care(U TOO), and whether you return to assamnet or not,(I WON'T AFTER
>TODAY) all the best to you and yours(AND TO YOU SIR).
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>cm(MOMY)
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