[Assam] [WaterWatch] Digest Number 820
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Tue Oct 24 06:34:20 PDT 2006
Well said Sudhir!
c
At 3:53 AM +0000 10/24/06, Sudhir Vombatkere wrote:
>Friends,
>
>Apart from the drastic reduction in flow of
>Brahmaputra when China diverts the river to the
>north, there is also the nuclear blast
>radioactive wastes that will find their way down
>the Brahmaputra to affect people of Assam,
>Bengal and Bangladesh.
>
>An interesting parallel between India's ILR and
>China's Brahmaputra's diversion (and
>other projects) is that their President, like
>ours, is an engineer by training !! Engineers (I
>am one myself!) usually do what is possible
>without seeing what is necessary or the
>possible harm that their engineering may cause.
>
>I wonder what President Kalam would have to say
>about China's disastrous project ?! Can somebody
>ask him ?
>
>Technology-driven industrialization has
>necessarily caused a shift in human values,
>certainly among those sections of society that
>have benefitted from industrialization. These
>people seek the freedom to "consume" without the
>responsibility of regenerating resources or
>leaving resources for generations as yet unborn.
>The juggernaut of industrialization leaves most
>people with the simple choice of climbing aboard
>or staying out of the way. Those who cannot do
>either are crushed under its wheels like our
>dalits, small and marginal farmers and tribal
>peoples ... but our engineers are planning to
>put an Indian on the moon to make India's name
>great, while Indian people starve (or the lucky
>ones die) and live a life of drudgery and
>unremitting misery. Alternatively, they plan to
>link India's rivers and screw the entire
>country, but howl when China does the same. BUT
>ONWARD TO THE MOON, and the Devil take the
>hindmost!
>
>Sudhir Vombatkere
>
>
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>Open for debate in the group--what will be
>impact in North East-- focus on Assam and
>Arunachal. China's river plan worries India
>Indrani Bagchi
>[ 23 Oct, 2006]
>
>NEW DELHI: A controversial Chinese plan
>currently on the boil in Beijing, that involves
>damming the Brahmaputra river and diverting 200
>billion cubic metres of water annually to feed
>the ageing Yellow river is giving sleepless
>nights to the Indian government.
>
>Though it is still at the discussion stage and
>presents an enormous engineering challenge, the
>plan reportedly has the backing of Chinese
>President Hu Jintao, a hydro-engineer by
>profession, say sources in Beijing.
>
>The idea, nevertheless, is believed to be
>serious enough to warrant exchange of cables
>between Beijing and New Delhi. India plans to
>engage in some serious consultations with China
>on this issue over the next few months.
>
>The project plans to take the diverted water to
>feed north-eastern China watering Shaanxi,
>Hebei, Beijing and Tianjin areas, which could be
>looking at a parched future.
>
>If the project goes through, it could strangle
>one of India's and Bangladesh's biggest sources
>of water.
>
>China's economic prowess is the toast of the
>moment, but China's real source of influence
>over its southern neighbours is that it controls
>the tap for this part of the world.
>
>The proposed project, called the 'Greater
>Western Water Diversion Project', is part of the
>gigantic South-North water project that has
>already been started by China.
>
>In August, the Chinese government sanctioned 300
>billion yuan to divert water from the upper
>reaches of the Yangtze river in the
>Qinghai-Tibet plateau to the upper reaches of
>the Yellow river in north-western China.
>It will bring water from the Yalong, Dadu and
>Jinsha rivers, which are tributaries of the
>Yangtze, to the upper reaches of the Yellow
>river.
>
>It is the proposed western route of this project
>being debated in China at present that is
>worrying strategists and policy-planners in the
>Indian government.
>
>They believe this project, if allowed unopposed,
>could have immense impact on lower riparian
>states like India and Bangladesh.
>
>Indian officials are preparing for detailed
>discussions with their Chinese counterparts over
>the next few months. The western diversion
>project is inspired by a book, How Tibet's Water
>Will Save China , by Li Ling.
>
>Picking up a great deal of support among the
>Communist party leadership in Beijing, sources
>said, this book details the proposal by
>hydrologist Guo Kai called Shuo-tian (reverse
>flow) canal, which proposes to divert the
>Brahmaputra.
>
>Recently, responding to Indian media reports
>that China had built a dam on the Sutlej river,
>the Chinese foreign ministry acknowledged the
>dam in Zhada county in Tibetan Autonomous Region
>(TAR) but said they did it for electricity for
>the local population.
>
>In doing so, they "considered fully the impact
>on lower reaches
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>> Open for debate in the group--what will be impact in
>> North East-- focus on Assam and Arunachal. China's river
>> plan worries India
>> Indrani Bagchi
>> [ 23 Oct, 2006]
>>
>>
>>
>> NEW DELHI: A controversial Chinese plan currently on
>> the boil in Beijing, that involves damming the
>> Brahmaputra river and diverting 200 billion cubic metres
>> of water annually to feed the ageing Yellow river is
>> giving sleepless nights to the Indian government.
>>
>> Though it is still at the discussion stage and presents
>> an enormous engineering challenge, the plan reportedly
>> has the backing of Chinese President Hu Jintao, a
>> hydro-engineer by profession, say sources in Beijing.
>>
>> The idea, nevertheless, is believed to be serious enough
>> to warrant exchange of cables between Beijing and New
>> Delhi. India plans to engage in some serious
>> consultations with China on this issue over the next few
>> months.
>>
>> The project plans to take the diverted water to feed
>> north-eastern China watering Shaanxi, Hebei, Beijing and
>> Tianjin areas, which could be looking at a parched
>> future.
>>
>> If the project goes through, it could strangle one of
>> India's and Bangladesh's biggest sources of water.
>>
>> China's economic prowess is the toast of the moment, but
>> China's real source of influence over its southern
>> neighbours is that it controls the tap for this part of
>> the world.
>>
>> The proposed project, called the 'Greater Western Water
>> Diversion Project', is part of the gigantic South-North
>> water project that has already been started by China.
> >
>> In August, the Chinese government sanctioned 300 billion
>> yuan to divert water from the upper reaches of the
>> Yangtze river in the Qinghai-Tibet plateau to the upper
>> reaches of the Yellow river in north-western China.
>> It will bring water from the Yalong, Dadu and Jinsha
>> rivers, which are tributaries of the Yangtze, to the
>> upper reaches of the Yellow river.
>>
>> It is the proposed western route of this project being
>> debated in China at present that is worrying strategists
>> and policy-planners in the Indian government.
>>
>> They believe this project, if allowed unopposed, could
>> have immense impact on lower riparian states like India
>> and Bangladesh.
>>
>> Indian officials are preparing for detailed discussions
>> with their Chinese counterparts over the next few months.
>> The western diversion project is inspired by a book, How
>> Tibet's Water Will Save China , by Li Ling.
>>
>> Picking up a great deal of support among the Communist
>> party leadership in Beijing, sources said, this book
>> details the proposal by hydrologist Guo Kai called
>> Shuo-tian (reverse flow) canal, which proposes to
>> divert the Brahmaputra.
>>
>> Recently, responding to Indian media reports that China
>> had built a dam on the Sutlej river, the Chinese foreign
>> ministry acknowledged the dam in Zhada county in Tibetan
>> Autonomous Region (TAR) but said they did it for
>> electricity for the local population.
>>
>> In doing so, they "considered fully the impact on lower
>> reaches
>>
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>Sun Oct 22, 2006 9:14 pm (PST)
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>Moderator's Note: Since 1949, successive Chinese
>rulers have all undertaken massive projects; the
>last one was the Three Gorges Dam. Now an even
>more colossal project is lying on the design
>table: South-North water diversion. What has
>been reported today (see below) in the media was
>first reported in Scientific American, a journal
>in June 1996. This article giving credence to
>the Chinese plans stated: 'Recently some Chinese
>engineers proposed diverting water into this
>arid area [Gobi Desert] from the mighty
>Brahmaputra River, which skirts China's southern
>border before dipping into India and Bangladesh.
>Such a feat would be impossible with
>conventional methods, engineers stated at a
>meeting held last December at the Chinese
>Academy of Engineering Physics in Beijing. But
>they added, "we can certainly accomplish this
>project" with nuclear explosives.'
>
>The Journal wrote: 'This statement is just one of the many lately in
>which Chinese technologists and officials have touted the potential
>of nuclear blasts for carrying out non-military goals.'
>
>In January 1998, the German television channel ZDF presented a
>feature on the Yarlung Tsangpo project in a program titled Die Welt
>[The World]. Its chief planner Professor Chen Chuanyu described the
>plan to drill a 15 km (9.3 miles) tunnel through the Himalayas to
>divert the water before the U turn and direct it to the other end of
>the bend. This would shorten the approximately 3,000 meters altitude
>drop, from 200 km to just 15 km. He explained that the hydropower
>potential could be used to pump water to Northwest China over 800 km
>away.
>
>The correspondent of The Telegraph in Beijing wrote in October
>2000: 'Chinese leaders are drawing up plans to use nuclear
>explosions, in breach of the international test-ban treaty, to blast
>a tunnel through the Himalayas for the world's biggest hydroelectric
>plant.'
>
>The construction of this multi-billion dollar project is tentatively
>scheduled to begin in 2009. The consequences of a huge storage dam
>on the Yarlung Tsangpo (Brahmputra) and the diversion of the waters
>to northwestern China are multiple and far reaching for Tibet, India
>and Bangladesh. Most importantly, this project represents a direct
>threat to the people living downstream.
>
>India, Bangladesh and Tibet would be at the mercy of China for
>adequate release of water during the dry season, and for protection
>from floods during the rainy season.
>
>The massive diversion of the river to China's northwest would have
>even more devastating consequences. North India and Bangladesh would
>be starved of their life line. Nutrient-rich sediments that enrich
>the soil of these regions would be held back in the reservoir
>instead of reaching the river's delta. Millions would be affected. A
>water war could ensue.
>
>If the Tsangpo (Brahmputra) project is implemented, large parts of
>the scheme of Interlinking of rivers would become redundant.
>
>The Great Bend is located in a highly earthquake prone area the new
>earthquakes would be even more devastating than in August 1950.
>On July 17, 2003 the People's Daily published a small item: 'China
>to Conduct Feasibility Study on Hydropower Project in Tibet.' It ran
>thus: 'China plans to conduct a feasibility study in October on the
>construction of a major hydropower project on the Yarlung Zangbo
>River in the Tibet Autonomous Region. An expert team [was sent] to
>the area for preliminary work between late June and early July.'
>
>In September 2001, Associated Press commented: 'The sheer scale
>harkens back to the mega projects of imperial China and the heyday
>of Communist central planning. But even in the home of the 1,500-
>mile Great Wall, the scheme is raising eyebrows. Some question if
>such a gargantuan project is needed or even wise.'
>
>The Tibetan plateau is the principal watershed in Asia and the
>source of its 10 major rivers, including the Brahmaputra (or Yarlung
>Tsangpo in Tibet), the Sutlej and the Indus. About 90% of the
>Tibetan rivers' runoff flows downstream to China, India, Bangladesh,
>Nepal, Pakistan, Thailand, Myanmar, Laos, Cambodia and Vietnam.
>
>The scheme has three segments: the eastern, central and western
>routes. The third is the trickiest; it is the one which should make
>India and Bangladesh nervous. The southern part of the western route
>envisages the diversion of the Yarlung Tsangpo (Brahmaputra) which
>will have an immense bearing on the lives of millions in the sub-
>continent. Originating from a glacier near Mount Kailash, it is the
>largest river on the Tibetan plateau and the highest on earth. It
>runs 2,057 kilometers in Tibet before flowing into India, where it
>becomes the Brahmaputra. One of its interesting characteristics is a
>sharp U turn (known as the Great Bend) near the Indian border.
>
>These issues were discussed by WaterWatch in the year 2003 and most
>recently at a seminar on WATER & DEMOCRACY in Hyderabad in the
>context of India's diversion of rivers scheme (officially called
>Interlinking of Rivers project).
>
>Most recently (October 6, 2006) Claude Arpi, the
>author of The Fate of Tibet wrote that the
>director of the Yellow River Water Conservancy
>Committee, Li Guoying, confirmed in August 2006
>that China plans to divert Tibet's waters
>towards the mainland.
>
>China Daily reported on 29th May, 2006 that Pranab Mukherjee,
>India's defense minister who was on his visist to China said that he
>does not see China as an immediate threat, distancing himself from
>his Japanese counterpart, who expressed groundless concern about the
>China's rapid growth. Did he really feel so? Did
>he discuss the matter with his Chinese
>counterparts?
>
>Comments are invited from the members on the
>Chinese plan to divert Brahmputra.
>
>Moderator
>
>China's river plan worries India
>23 Oct, 2006
>
>NEW DELHI: A controversial Chinese plan currently on the boil in
>Beijing, that involves damming the Brahmaputra river and diverting
>200 billion cubic metres of water annually to feed the ageing Yellow
>river is giving sleepless nights to the Indian government.
>
>Though it is still at the discussion stage and presents an enormous
>engineering challenge, the plan reportedly has the backing of
>Chinese President Hu Jintao, a hydro-engineer by profession, say
>sources in Beijing.
>
>The idea, nevertheless, is believed to be serious enough to warrant
>exchange of cables between Beijing and New Delhi. India plans to
>engage in some serious consultations with China on this issue over
>the next few months.
>
>The project plans to take the diverted water to feed north-eastern
>China watering Shaanxi, Hebei, Beijing and Tianjin areas, which
>could be looking at a parched future.
>
>If the project goes through, it could strangle one of India's and
>Bangladesh's biggest sources of water.
>
>China's economic prowess is the toast of the moment, but China's
>real source of influence over its southern neighbours is that it
>controls the tap for this part of the world.
>
>The proposed project, called the 'Greater Western Water Diversion
>Project', is part of the gigantic South-North water project that has
>already been started by China.
>
>In August, the Chinese government sanctioned 300 billion yuan to
>divert water from the upper reaches of the Yangtze river in the
>Qinghai-Tibet plateau to the upper reaches of the Yellow river in
>north-western China.
>
>It will bring water from the Yalong, Dadu and Jinsha rivers, which
>are tributaries of the Yangtze, to the upper reaches of the Yellow
>river.
>
>It is the proposed western route of this project being debated in
>China at present that is worrying strategists and policy-planners in
>the Indian government.
>
>They believe this project, if allowed unopposed, could have immense
>impact on lower riparian states like India and Bangladesh.
>
>Indian officials are preparing for detailed discussions with their
>Chinese counterparts over the next few months. The western diversion
>project is inspired by a book, How Tibet's Water Will Save China ,
>by Li Ling.
>
>Picking up a great deal of support among the Communist party
>leadership in Beijing, sources said, this book details the proposal
>by hydrologist Guo Kai called "Shuo-tian" (reverse flow) canal,
>which proposes to divert the Brahmaputra.
>
>Recently, responding to Indian media reports that China had built a
>dam on the Sutlej river, the Chinese foreign ministry acknowledged
>the dam in Zhada county in Tibetan Autonomous Region (TAR) but said
>they did it for electricity for the local population.
>
>In doing so, they "considered fully the impact on lower reaches".
>
>Indrani Bagchi
>
>The Times of India
>
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>Mon Oct 23, 2006 12:46 am (PST)
>
>Sorry for the delayed intervention - but just saw this -
>----------------------------------------------------------
>Politics of Water Scarcity
>
>Is non-availability of water related to "less
>available water" or to its mis-use, over-use,
>and monopolistic-use that generates "real" water
>shortages for majority?
>
>- Generating "population induced hype about
>water scarcity a la' Malthus" constitutes an
>ideological tool for reinforcing attention on
>natural lack of water availability as the
>central problematic issue per se' - and to that
>extent diverts focus from human/social
>contribution to generating "artificial"shortages
>(ie those related not to non-availability of
>water but to its scarcity for some sections
>inspite of natural water avialability) that are
>actually expereinced by selected majority.
>Persistence of this socially generated scarcity
>however - will perpetuate scarcity - for
>majority - irrespective of "increased
>availability" of water for privileged minority
>that also comes with an exra inflow of money for
>those who subscribe to "natural, non-political,
>technically induced & a-social" water scracity
>thesis.
>
>Supply availability can also be increased by
>- strong action against industrial/domestic
>pollution that ruin fresh water sorces
>- re-formulating agricultural policy to
>encourage low water consumption land use pattern
>even in water plenty areas
>- regulating water waste by the urban rich ( not
>so much preaching water conservation to the
>thristy poor)
>........and other similar well known measures
>.....the challenge is of overcoming the
>political resistance to grounding such measures
>and to keep such issues floating on the top of
>the water discourse agenda- and evolve beyond
>"per capita" discussions as they HIDE the
>fundamental problems created by skewed water
>control by powerful constituencies.
>- Jasveen Jairath
>-
>----- Original Message -----
>From: viren
>To: <mailto:WaterWatch at yahoogroups.com>WaterWatch at yahoogroups.com
>Cc: <mailto:sameer.mohindru at dowjones.com>sameer.mohindru at dowjones.com
>Sent: Sunday, October 01, 2006 7:00 PM
>Subject: [WaterWatch] India Water Crisis = Food Scarcity (WSJ)
>
>Moderator's Note: The facts presented below
>merely reports subjectively and non-critically
>the statements made by Finance Minister P.
>Chidambaram who says, "We will be more dependent
>on imports" and J.S.Samra, deputy director
>general of Indian Council of Agriculture
>Research (ICAR) without any analysis. Samara
>says, "per capita water availability should be
>1,700 m3 per year but if only utilizable water
>is taken into consideration, the current
>availability in India is 1,000 m3 and may slip
>to 800 m3 by 2050."
>
>And then they go on to suggest...construction of
>dams to increase storage and interbasin transfer
>of water from rivers to expand irrigation
>facilities and pay customary lip service to
>water harvesting. Do these measures address the
>issue of declining water availability?. Are they
>short term measures or long term measures? Or
>are they both?
>
>What is noteworthy is what is being mentioned is
>only the national average figure. At an
>International Conference on Soil, Water and
>Environmental Quality, Montek Singh Ahluwalia,
>Deputy Chairman, Planning Commission said that
>India's population will stabilize around 1.6
>billion by 2045. Highlighting the need for
>pursuing his development objective of increasing
>the rate of growth of GDP to 8 percent,
>Ahluwalia was addressing scientists like Dr
>Mangla Rai and Dr Samra.
>
>Interestingly, the news article below also says,
>the development of water resources holds the key
>to India's emergence as a global power.
>
>How is it that ICAR, Planning Commission and The
>Wall Street Journal are speaking the same
>language? Is it a coincidence or is it a design?
>
>Moderator
>
>"viren" wrote:
>
>Growth Challenges India Water Supply
>SAMEER MOHINDRU
>August 23, 2006
>NEW DELHI -- India's rapid growth in recent
>years has thrown up a new challenge -- managing
>scarce water resources to meet the rising demand
>from an equally fast growing population.India is
>expected to have 1.6 billion people by 2050,
>possibly more than China, and by far the biggest
>work force in the world with an expected median
>age way below that in much of the developing
>world.
>
>The development of this resource holds the key
>to India's emergence as a global power, and the
>biggest challenge for policy makers is finding
>large volumes of food and water to meet basic
>needs. But the country appears to be falling
>behind in its struggle to keep up with
>fast-paced growth and the demands that come with
>it.
>
>"As per international norms, the per capita
>water availability should be 1,700 m3 [60,000
>ft3] per year but if only utilizable water is
>taken into consideration, the current
>availability in India is 1,000 m3 and may slip
>to 800 m3 by 2050," said J.S.Samra, deputy
>director general of Indian Council of
>Agriculture Research. He said annual
>precipitation in India is about 4,000 billion
>m3, or BCM, but according to the government-run
>Central Water Commission, natural runoff to
>rivers and recharging of groundwater takes up
>about 1,869 BCM of that. Of the remaining,
>around 690 BCM can be utilized because of
>topographical constraints and uneven
>distribution of rainfall. Together with
>groundwater resources, estimated at about 432
>BCM, the country's annual water availability is
>now around 1,122 BCM.
>
>Based on current projections, by 2050, this will
>be enough to meet only the irrigation
>requirements, leaving out demand from domestic
>and industrial sectors. According to the
>government's medium demand projections, the
>country's agriculture sector will need 1,008 BCM
>of water by 2050 to produce the 539 million tons
>of food grains that will be needed by then.
>"Water will increasingly become the most costly
>input for agriculture in future," said B. Mishra
>of the Directorate of Wheat Research in Karnal.
>
>India's food-grain output is estimated at 208.3
>MM tons in the crop year to June 2006, but the
>country is already importing wheat to meet
>domestic demand. It also imports large
>quantities of pulses -- food from plant pods,
>such as peas and beans -- and edible oils. The
>country's grain output has been stagnant for the
>past 12 years, and barring a massive increase in
>productivity, India will have to rely more on
>imports, Finance Minister P. Chidambaram said
>last month. "Population is rising. Per capita
>consumption is rising. Unless there is a
>scientific breakthrough [in farm research] we
>will run into problems. We will be more
>dependent on imports," Mr. Chidambaram told
>lawmakers in Parliament during a discussion on
>rising prices of essential commodities.
>
>According to ICAR's Mr. Samra, who specializes
>in natural-resources management, particularly in
>northwestern provinces such as Punjab, Haryana
>and Uttar Pradesh, groundwater through tube
>wells for cultivation of wheat, rice and
>sugarcane has been overexploited. This has
>resulted in severe depletion of groundwater in
>these provinces. While in many places the
>groundwater table is precariously low at more
>than 10 meters (33 feet), in others groundwater
>levels are rising, leading to waterlogging, Mr.
>Samra said.
>
>"The problem is twofold.... In 80% of the
>geographical area of Punjab and 35% of Haryana,
>the water table has declined, and in the rest,
>it is on the rise," he said. The two states
>together produce around 33% of the wheat grown
>in the country. In southwest Punjab, for
>example, the quality of groundwater is poor, and
>therefore few tube wells were dug for
>irrigation. Instead, local authorities diverted
>canal water to these regions, raising the water
>table.
>
>Meanwhile, because of the lack of irrigation
>facilities across the country, Indian
>agriculture remains largely dependent on monsoon
>rains for soil moisture. Around 60% of the
>country's farmland is exclusively rain-fed,
>making it difficult for farmers to take
>advantage of multiple crop cycles. With 80% of
>annual rainfall occurring between June and
>September, the timing and spread of monsoon
>rains often becomes the critical factor
>affecting output each year.
>
>In the state of Madhya Pradesh, for example,
>area under wheat cultivation declined by around
>400,000 Ha (1 MM acres) this year because of
>insufficient rains and lack of irrigation
>facilities. Out of an estimated 133 MM Ha of
>farmland, India has only 53.07 MM Ha with viable
>irrigation facilities, leaving much of the
>country to the mercy of monsoon rains. "Farmers
>in the rain-fed region of Rajasthan will prefer
>to grow rapeseed that requires two rounds of
>irrigation and not wheat that requires five
>rounds," said B.V. Mehta, executive director of
>the Solvent Extractors Association of India, a
>lobby group of local edible-oil traders.
>
>Despite these challenges, government officials
>are optimistic India can grow enough
>agricultural crops with available water, if
>there is large-scale harvesting of rainwater,
>construction of dams to increase storage and
>interbasin transfer of water from rivers to
>expand irrigation facilities. "The picture is
>not all that gloomy. We can meet our water and
>food requirements with sincere work and national
>will," Mr. Samra said. Under the government's
>recently launched Bharat Nirman Yojana, or India
>Development Program, an additional 10 MM Ha are
>to be brought within the irrigation network by
>2009. Alongside, the country is also changing
>its cropping pattern, to grow crops that need
>more water, such as rice, in eastern India.
>
>"We are trying to address the issue by greater
>water-use efficiency," said DWR's Mr. Mishra.
>Indian scientists are developing more and more
>seeds that require less irrigation without
>affecting yields, he said. Significant inroads
>have also been made in the wheat-growing plains
>of northwest to promote zero-tillage planting
>for saving water and retaining soil nutrition,
>said Mangala Rai, director general of ICAR. As a
>result, farmers now plant wheat in October,
>immediately after harvesting summer-sown crops
>such as rice. With the fields still sufficiently
>moist from the June-September monsoon season,
>seeds are sown without any ploughing or
>furrowing, eliminating the need for the first
>round of irrigation, Mr. Mishra said. This
>ensures wheat is sown at least 10 days earlier,
>retaining soil nutrients and giving the crop
>more time to grow. Mr. Rai said nearly 2.5 MM Ha
>have been brought under zero-tillage sowing, and
>the concept is being introduced for more crops,
>such as corn.
>
>SOURCE: The Wall Street Journal.
>__________________________________________________________
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>India's river
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><http://profiles.yahoo.com/mediavigil>mediavigil
>
>Mon Oct 23, 2006 1:11 am (PST)
>
>
>The unmasking of the terminal illness of human species must involve
>dealing with violence: personal, family, city, national, regional
>and global.
>
>Some violence has been renounced, for example, a father's right to
>kill his child: but other forms of violence still are seen
>as "socially useful," for example, torture, imprisonment, killing
>children by sending them to war, epidemic violence against women and
>of course destruction of ecology for so-called development.
>
>The proposed Chinese diversion of Brahmputra and Indian inter
>linking of rivers project is a gross manifestation of a disease
>induced notion of development.
>
>On 28 November, 2003, WaterWatch carried a message in its Digest No.
>11, The Times of India has reported it on 23 October, 2006. Given
>below are excerpts from what appeared in 2003 Digest.
>
>Gopal Krishna
>
>1. China's move to divert Tibetan rivers upsets India's river
>linking plan
>
>China's move to divert Tibetan rivers has upset India's grandiose
>plans of interlinking its rivers. Experts now believe that China's
>not raking up its claims on eastern states of Sikkim and Arunachal
>Pradesh during Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's recent Bejing
>visit could be a diplomatic diversion to hide a far more serious
>matter for India.
>
>India has planned to link 30 rivers at a cost of Rs 5,600 billion by
>2012. A task force, headed by former minister Suresh Prabhu has
>already completed the feasibility report on six links.
>
>The Tibetan plateau is the principal watershed in Asia and the
>source of its 10 major rivers, including the Brahmaputra (or Yarlung
>Tsangpo in Tibet), the Sutlej and the Indus. About 90 per cent of
>the Tibetan rivers' runoff flows downstream to India, Bangladesh
>Nepal and Pakistan.
>
>India's major concerns are the diversion of the Brahmputra, which
>will make Prime Minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee's mega project
>redundant. Coinciding with Mr Vajpayee's visit, a team of experts
>was studying to construct a major hydropower project on the
>Brahmputra River in the Tibet Autonomous Region.
>
>Mr Vajpayee's critics here draw parallels between his visit to
>Lahore in 1999 and to Beijing in 2003. "It is almost the same, when
>Mr Vajpayee was signing the Lahore Declaration, Pakistanis were
>digging trenches in Kargil. Now, when he was dancing in Beijing
>over China's reportedly giving up its claim on Sikkim, Chinese were
>drawing plans to put India in the doldrums," they say. Experts argue
>China's move not only threatened the environment but also national
>security. If Beijing goes ahead with the Brahmputra project, it
>would practically mean a declaration of war against India, they
>believe.
>
>Originating from a glacier near Kailash, the Brahmputra is the
>largest river on the Tibetan plateau and the highest on earth. It
>runs 2,057 kilometres in Tibet before flowing into India. It has
>been discovered recently that the river's gorge forms the longest
>and the deepest canyon in the world. China plans to construct the
>world's largest hydroelectric plant at the Great Bend to generate
>40,000 megawatts. Also the diverted water will be pumped northward
>across hundreds of kilometres of mountainous region to China's arid
>northwestern provinces, Xinjiang and Gansu (Gobi desert).
>
>India and Bangladesh will also remain at the mercy of China, which
>could withhold water for power generation and irrigation during the
>dry season and release water during the flood season with
>catastrophic consequences for eastern South Asia. Taking into view
>that it is impossible to divert the mighty Brahmputra
>conventionally, China is planning to accomplish this project "with
>nuclear explosives". The Chinese Academy of Engineering Physics in
>Beijing has recommended this peaceful use of a nuclear device, said
>a London-based science journal. Since the region is an earthquake-
>prone zone, India's Disaster Relief Committee Chairman Sam Kannappan
>has asked the government to talk seriously with China to secure the
>future of millions in India.
>
>2. IWMI turn around
>
>According to a Press Release of the International Water Management
>Institute (IWMI), has taken up an elaborate project on the strategic
>analysis of India's ambitious river-linking programme.
>
>Some time back on an earlier occasion IWMI had called experts and
>activists from civil society to ascertain their views for a research
>proposal on alternative to the river linking plan. IWMI is turn
>around from an earlier plan to study alternative to the present
>study of the river-linking project itself is baffling.
>
>Besides ascertaining the adequacy of the proposed inter-basin links
>in meeting the future water needs, the research proposal will assess
>its cost-effectiveness and sustainability.
>
>Revealing this at a press meet here, IWMI officials said the river-
>linking project prima facie appeared practical though several
>hurdles would have to be overcome before it could be implemented.
>The three-year study would aim at identifying the best practices to
>implement the project as well as the national water sector
>perspective plan (NWSPP) as a fallback strategy in case the river-
>linking project failed to come up. Moreover, it will also generate a
>national debate on the inter-basin transfer of water.
>
>For complete story visit
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>3. 'Timely steps taken against Indian river-linking project': The
>government of Bangladesh had taken appropriate steps in time against
>the Indian move to withdraw waters from trans-boundary common
>rivers, Water Resources Minister Hafizuddin, Bir Bikram, told the
>Jatiya Sangsad on 18 November, 2003.
>
>For complete story visit
>
><http://www.thedailystar.net/2003/11/19/d31119060265.htm>http://www.thedailystar.net/2003/11/19/d31119060265.htm
>
>4. "Water is a commodity, which cannot be manufactured": Suresh
>Prabhu
>
>Chairman Task Force on Interlinking of Rivers Suresh P. Prabhu said,
>the modern-day challenges were responsible for the pressure on
>already scarce resources. Saying that clean air and water were
>precious commodities, he added: ''We can get this back by increasing
>the awareness and thus protect our environment. Films have an
>everlasting impact on our minds and help in creating this
>awareness.''
>
>Commenting on the festival's theme, Water for Life, he said: ''Water
>is a commodity, which cannot be manufactured. The only way we can
>protect it is by protecting the ecology.''
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