[Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at charter.net
Tue Aug 14 12:17:12 PDT 2007 

>  >I understand.  However it looks more like ULFA is in
>armed conflict against people of Assam rather then
India.


*** That is because you consider those who do not subscribe to ULFA's 
views are the true representatives of Assam. That maybe so. But why 
don't  those who sport that halo, hold a referendum and decide, once 
and for all, who the true reps. of Assam are? ULFA has publicly 
agreed to accept the verdict of the people.

That would be a way to bring the conflict to an end.


>And BTW,  if you are guarding ULFA on pretext of war, why not apply 
>the same yardstick when it >comes to GOI???

*** I don't have any obligations to GoI. My obligations are to the 
people of Assam, their rights and their well-being.  I also do not 
come from the ranks of those the who laughably sport the halo of 
being  'fair and-blanced' :-).



>Whether they will publish this debate or not is something which they 
>can answer.

*** I did not ask you to speak for them. Just your opinion of whether 
they should is what I was hoping to hear.



>  So is it that only those journalists who favor your view are true journalist?

*** Is that something I said or implied? Or is that 'damned English 
language' problem again :-)?


>  >Even if the Assam Press initiates a debate do you guarantee that 
>your cohorts will not threaten those
>who debates for Assam being a part of India ?


*** If your cohorts do, or you do, I will surely attempt to get the 
approval of mine. But ULFA has publicly said, many times, that they 
would accept the verdict of a referendum. The need for a debate prior 
to such a referendum is implicit.


>send a letter to your local newspaper explaining Why St Louis should 
>be Free from USA  and that you >will support a war against USA if it 
>is not freed.....

*** That would be a very dumb thing to do, and the analogy could not 
be more absurd.  St. Louis is not demanding to be free of the USA, 
much less  waging a quarter century old insurgency. But if it does 
been, I will certainly  comply with your request.


>Actually ..... not a single case of success  .... not much of 
>accomplishment :)

*** You sure know how to hurt a guy.


>Same on the other side is true ... particulrly when you try avoiding 
>difficult question

*** I  think you are toiling under an Oxomiya bhaxa problem too :-). 
Avoiding difficult questions, evasiveness,  is not analogous to 
refusing to admit what stares one in the face.












At 11:46 AM -0700 8/14/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty wrote:
>  > *** ULFA is in an armed conflict with India. It is a
>>  war . In wars
>>  such fundamental rights as speech or freedom of
>>  expression  are some
>>  of the most early and consistent victims, across the
>>  world.
>
>I understand.  However it looks more like ULFA is in
>armed conflict against people of Assam rather then
>India. 
>
>And BTW,  if you are guarding ULFA on pretext of war,
>why not apply the same yardstick when it comes to
>GOI???
>
>
>
>*** Now can you tell us why the press in Assam would
>>  not allow an
>>  informed, unfettered
>>  discussion/debate  about why  Assam ought to be free
>>  or NOT ? Would
>>  they publish the debate we had in this forum?
>
>Whether they will publish this debate or not is
>something which they can answer.  However,  a couple
>of years back a similar debate from AssamNet was
>published in Assam Tribune, if I remember correct.
>
>Have you tried sending an article /letter to Assam
>Press?
>There have been many instances when you have cited
>articles from Assam/Indian press in support of your
>view.  So is it that only those journalists who favor
>your view are true journalist?
>Even if the Assam Press initiates a debate do you
>guarantee that your cohorts will not threaten those
>who debates for Assam being a part of India ?
>
>Now let us turn to your ideal and functioning democary
>..... Try this ....
>send a letter to your local newspaper explaining Why
>St Louis should be Free from USA  and that you will
>support a war against USA if it is not freed.....  if
>you need to find a reason I can help you ....  let us
>see how your functioning democracy and its press
>treats you.
>
>>  *** Helping educate people like yourselves, although
>>  not always
>>  successfully .
>
>Actually ..... not a single case of success  .... not
>much of accomplishment :)
>
>In this context, the 'nwdhown gaa
>>  dhouaali, nakhawn
>>  bhaat khuali, nigilw ki koro kor' factor plays out
>>  quite often :-).
>
>Same on the other side is true ... particulrly when
>you try avoiding difficult questions.
>
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>
>>  >
>>  >Do you think that ULFA (or Anyone else) should deny
>>  >anybodys right to host Indian Flag ?
>>
>>
>>  *** ULFA is in an armed conflict with India. It is a
>>  war . In wars
>>  such fundamental rights as speech or freedom of
>>  expression  are some
>>  of the most early and consistent victims, across the
>>  world.  To
>>  expect otherwise would be a self imposed delusion.
>>
>>  Therefore the prudent thing to do will be to find
>>  ways to end the
>>  conflict. And it is the press'  role to help inform
>>  and educate the
>>  people, as I wrote, so that the conflict could be
>>  ended.
>>
>>  *** Now can you tell us why the press in Assam would
>>  not allow an
>>  informed, unfettered
>>  discussion/debate  about why  Assam ought to be free
>>  or NOT ? Would
>>  they publish the debate we had in this forum?
>>
>>
>>
>>  >  > ...... what have
>>  >you accomplished after crying hoarse on anything
>>  Indian for over a decade (may be more).
>>
>>
>>  *** Helping educate people like yourselves, although
>>  not always
>>  successfully . In this context, the 'nwdhown gaa
>>  dhouaali, nakhawn
>>  bhaat khuali, nigilw ki koro kor' factor plays out
>>  quite often :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>  At 10:50 AM -0700 8/14/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  wrote:
>>  >--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>  >
>>  >>  >  >Nava Thakuria and others are just trying to
>>  >>  decry
>>  >>  >this.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  *** That is his prerogative.
>>  >
>>  >And that is what you are questioning ....
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>  Question is what will it RESULT in? How is Assam
>>  >>  going to benefit from it?
>>  >>
>>  >>  Surely they have been crying hoarse over
>>  everything
>>  >>  from ULFA to
>>  >>  B'deshis to corruption to 'pseudo-secularism'
>>  to
>>  >>  American foreign
>>  >>  policy.
>>  >>
>>  >>  But how have they contributed ANYTHING to change
>>  >>  what they decry so?
>>  >>  Or HOW to go about accomplishing what they would
>>  >>  like to see?
>>  >
>>  >You are trying to twist the original question ....
>>  >
>>  >Do you think that ULFA (or Anyone else) should deny
>>  >anybodys right to host Indian Flag ?
>>  >
>>  >And about what they have accomplished ...... what
>>  have
>>  >you accomplished after crying hoarse on anything
>>  >Indian for over a decade (may be more).
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  >X-YMail-OSG:
>>  >>
>>
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>>  >>  >Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2007 09:31:54 -0700 (PDT)
>>  >>  >From: Krishnendu Chakraborty
>>  <krish_gau at yahoo.com>
>>  >>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF
>>  >>  ASSAM
>>  >>  >To: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>  >>  >X-Chzlrs: 0
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >Read your post as well as your earlier post
>>  >>  >(Flagwaving Blues) .....
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >I do agree with your post (Flagwaving Blues).
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >You have mentioned ---  "flagwaving is a
>>  legitimate
>>  >>  >and valid form of communicating how they
>>  >>  >>feel. NOTHING wrong with that. I respect
>>  that."
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >However,  what is happening in Assam is that
>>  SOME
>>  >>  >people are NOT respecting this and restricting
>>  >>  others
>>  >>  >to express their feeling.
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >Nava Thakuria and others are just trying to
>>  decry
>>  >>  >this.
>>  >>  >What is wrong with that ?
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >K
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >PS:  I noticed you did not mark a copy to
>>  Assamnet.
>>  >>   I
>>  >>  >respect your privacy and not marking to
>>  assamnet
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  READ my post and it will be self evident.
>  > While
>>  >>  at
>>  >>  >>  it, look at my
>>  >>  >>  post of 2002 also.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  >  > We believe that we, the people of the
>>  State
>>  >>  >>  have
>>  >>  >>  >every
>>  >>  >>  >>  right to celebrate the Day,
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >C'da
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >do you think that some group should
>>  restrict
>>  >>  this
>>  >>  >>  >right?  I thought you promote freedom of
>>  >>  thought
>>  >>  >>  and expression
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  >    
>>  >>  >>
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