[Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM
Chan Mahanta
cmahanta at charter.net
Fri Aug 17 06:51:39 PDT 2007
*** Why don't you give it a try and figure it out
by yourself? As a highly trained whatever, you
ought to be able to do so. A high school
graduate could.
But if you still can't, I am always here to help the needy. Just let me know.
>Since you went right out of this country with
>gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never
>returning, >could you explain your pastime of
>continually making digs at India or Indians for
>all of Assam's ills.
*** Yes, I came along with our friend and one
time netter, Digambar Pungta, sporting my
baapoti-xahwn
gamosa, which, in time even flew into
outer-space, thanks to Mike Finke the
Markharkhowa jowain of all older Kharkhowas in
these shores.
Did you really have to ASK why I rattle
desi-cages? I think I give you guys enough
heartburn already. So , not to overdo it, I will
pass on it for now. But, but --- if it gives you
headaches agonizing over it, do let me know. I am
a kind-hearted person, always here to help.
> >I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you were
>not around but were gone long before that.
*** I can't help you with the exact timing of
the birth of ULFA, but, yes, I did leave India in
1970. That however has nothing to do with my
favorite pastime in assamnet.
:-)
At 12:01 AM -0700 8/17/07, SANDIP DUTTA wrote:
>Dear Sondon Da,
>
>
>
>Yes Please - We would like to hear why you have
>been forwarding articles from TOI or Indian
>express/Telegraph commenting about poverty in
>Bihar or rapes inside women's hostels in Delhi.
>If they dont concern Assam, why forward those
>articles or get heartburn from them?
>
>
>
>Since you went right out of this country with
>gamosa, et al :-) with the intention of never
>returning, could you explain your pastime of
>continually making digs at India or Indians for
>all of Assam's ills.
>
>
>
>I assume when Ulfa was formed in '79, you were
>not around but were gone long before that.
>
>
>
>Rgds,
>
>Sandip
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>----- Original Message ----
>From: Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com>
>To: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>; Ram Sarangapani <assamrs at gmail.com>
>Cc: assam at assamnet.org; Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com>
>Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2007 9:36:00 PM
>Subject: Re: [Assam] AN APPEAL TO THE PEOPLE OF ASSAM
>
> >Printing articles
>> of Tavleen Singh
>> criticizing Delhi does not do a damn thing for
>> Assam.
>
>So, let us know why you publish those Or for that
>matter the news items on what Delhi or Mumbai police
>is doing?
>
>I don' t care
>> what India is
>> doing or when Indians are going to the moon or to
>> hell in a
>> hand-basket.
>
>Then why cry hoarse on Indian Education System ...
>you really do not care right ??
>
>
>> Can you or anybody else here explain why there is
>> nothing useful or
>> meaningful to show for Rs. 300,000,000 a year for
>> 32,000,000 people
>> of the region?
>
>A couple of things off the head --- flyovers of
>Guwahati, Software Technology Park in Borjhar (though
>there are no takers because of threat to
>life/business), Tejpur University, the Golden
>quadrilateral road network connecting Assam to rest of
>India.
>I know Health/Primary education etc remains concern
>..... but these matters are in State Govt's hand ,
>why blame Delhi for these? There have been umpteen
>cases where funds allocated have been returned
>unutilized and/or shared by top Assamese officials
>with blessing of Dispur ....where does GOI comes in
>picture here ???
>
>You mentioned that GOI allocated Rs. 300,000,000 a
>year for Assam ? If GOA cannot utilize it or misuses
>it, HOW GOI is to be blamed? How other states are
>utilizing it? How will you ensure that the GOA of
>Independent Assam will NOT misuse public fund ?
>
>You realy could not show who are the people who
>support Sovereignty (other then you) ?
>
>You have mentioned couple of times -- Assam is living
>life of beggar etc
>
>why do you think Assam is living in dependency,
>beggars life etc.?
>
>If it is because Assam is a part of India, don't you
>think that in Independent Assam, all districts of
>Assam will be living in dependency, beggars life
>because Guwahati (or some other place) will be capital
>of Independent Assam and will "loot" from these
>districts .. so we just shift our target from Delhi
>to Guwahati?
>
>Tea and Petroleum, the two major resources of Assam,
>are concentrated in certain districts ... not spread
>evenly across Assam. Don't you think these districts
>will then start asking for Independence from Assam?
>And drill it down further ... every town will want to
>be a Independent Country.
>
>
>
>If you think things will be different, why? What is
>your model?
>
>
>
>How do you envision an independent Assam? What are
>your objectives and how you plan to achieve those ?
>
>
>
>I would assume that this will be the most important
>point if you start a debate . How will you ensure
>that the people of Assam will have a better life then
>what they have today and how will you ensure that
>there will be no further disintegration (with 100+
>militant groups in NE, seems like we need to have
>100+ countries in NE )? How will you handle the
>illegal immigration issue?
>
>You have been harping on India/Delhi's evils. How do
>we know that we are not moving to a greater evil?
>Given the experience of managing Dispur by our one
>time great student leaders, we need some concrete plan
>and proof how you can give us a Xonor Axom ? We also
>need to know the credibility of People who are going
>to run the (Islamic ?) republic of Assam?
>With all of Assam's population right from bureaucrats
>to School Teachers to Journalists opposing Soverignty,
>who are the people who will work with you and why ?
>
>In last one decade you have been asking for
>Independence citing evils of India but have always
>eluded when it came to answering HOW you are going to
>give us a better life and how you are going to run the
>show.
>
>And with GOUSA going on a spree looting oil rich
>countries, are you sure they will not target Assam
>soon ?
>
>
>
>On a different context, I just noticed Assam.org
>mentions that Assam produces over half of India's
>petroleum. However, on a GOI site, I found that
>Assam & Nagaland Produces around 13% of India's
>Petroleum . Does anyone know what is the correct
>figure?
>
>
>
>--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I am perfectly willing to hear about Indian reforms
>> that are real,
>> achievable , sustainable and addresses the issues
>> involving Assam ,
>> its disaffections and its progress. But let us get
>> one thing straight
>> first: It is NOT about ME. Wouldn't YOU want to hear
>> about it?
>> Wouldn't ALL want to hear of it?
>>
>> To charge, as an argument, that I don't want to hear
>> of it 'in the
>> Indian framework' ( heh-heh, that must be some
>> framework alright) is
>> the most preposterous proposition one can imagine.
>> But these
>> inquisitions have been mostly that, over and over
>> again.
>>
>>
>> If I did not, I would not ask Indian flag-wavers to
>> propose them.
>> Jairam Ramesh could propose them, or Laloo Yadav or
>> even Narendra
>> Modi. I have been waiting for twenty five years to
>> see it happen,
>> even in little increments, but perceptibly and
>> making a difference.
>>
>> However it does not take a genius to see where
>> Ramesh
>> stood--throwing in the towel , with his comment.
>>
>> Critical essays are not enough. Nor is
>> chest-thumping demonizing
>> Tarun Gogoi or Prafulla Mahanta. Printing articles
>> of Tavleen Singh
>> criticizing Delhi does not do a damn thing for
>> Assam. One needs to
>> look at Assam's unique problems and help find
>> solutions for them.
>> Obviously Indian governance has not been able to do
>> that for sixty
>> years. That is easily understandable. Indian
>> governance has remained
>> as dysfunctional as it always have been. They are
>> unable seek out
>> people who have better ideas, achievable ideas, from
>> outside the
>> establishment if they have to, Import them if they
>> must.
>>
>> Show me one thing from the Indian press that has
> > attempted to deal
>> substantially with Assam issues, pinpoint problems
>> and offer
>> solutions.
>>
>>
>>
>> >Yes, open your eyes and see how India is improving
>>
>> *** How does is that helping Assam? I don' t care
>> what India is
>> doing or when Indians are going to the moon or to
>> hell in a
>> hand-basket. Show me how it is helping Assam.
>>
>> Can you or anybody else here explain why there is
>> nothing useful or
>> meaningful to show for Rs. 300,000,000 a year for
>> 32,000,000 people
>> of the region? Don't forget your 65% voter
>> participated election
>> generated democratic government running the show.
>>
>> But I won't hold my breath on anyone touching that
>> subject, unless
>> wrapped with a thick tarpaulin of 'no-comprendo' or
>> some other
>> insulating device :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> At 11:22 AM -0700 8/15/07, Krishnendu Chakraborty
>> wrote:
>> >--- Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Ram,
>> >>
>> >> Your response here , unfortunately, smacks of
>> the
>> >> immensely
>> >> uncreative and unimaginative but argumentative
>> one.
>> >> It fits right in
>> >> the mold of the Indian govt. policies spanning
>> >> decades, uncreative,
>> >> unproductive, stuck in the muck of their own
>> >> creations.
>> >>
>> >> You have no goal here, nothing to aim for,
>> >> quarreling for the sake of
>> >> quarreling; very similar to what some of these
>> >> journalists have been
>> >> doing. So I can understand your empathy for the
>> >> targets of my
>> >> criticism.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Could you tell us what is wrong or bad in my
>> >> suggestions? NO.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Yes, your suggestions revolve around Sovereign
>> Assam
>> > and you do not want to hear anything which
>> suggest
>> >improvement within Indian framework (similar to the
>> >saying which you mentioned). The Assam Press have
>> >been a lot critical of GOI/GOA policies and steps
>> then
>> >you but the difference is they do constructive
>> >criticism and they do see some of the improvements
>> of
>> >India/Assam too. Whether GOI/GOA take any lesson
>> >from their criticizm is a different story (just the
>> >way your GOUSA not always learn lessons from US
>> >Press).
>> >You have in fact discounted the whole of Indian
>> Press
>> >under Desi-Demokrasy but you are the one who uses
>> >articles by Tavleen Singh and others as well as
>> news
>> >reports from Indian news papers to kill GOI/GOA.
>> >
>> >
>> >> Could you present a better alternative? None!
>> >
>> >Yes, open your eyes and see how India is improving
>> >.... shed the arms and be a part of this
>> development.
>> > there are a number of private investors who are
>> eager
>> >to invest in smaller towns and cities only if there
>> is
>> >no threat to their life/business
>> >
>> >>
>> >> And could you explain the contradiction in the
>> >> claim about
>> >>
>> >> > "------During last couple of elections Assam
>> has
>> >> witnessed at
>> >> > >least 65% or more vote casting. This
>> essentially
>> >> >means that at least 65% of Assam's
>> people
>> >> believe in
>> >> >Indian Constitution.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> that Krishnendu posted, echoing your and others'
>> > > claims of elections
>> >> as a proof of Assam voters' issue awareness or
>> >> informed expression
>> >> of preferences as it relates to the B'deshi
>> >> immigration issue and
>> >> the GoI/GoA's non-acknowledgement and inaction
>> over
>> >> it, while that
>> >> segment of the Assam press that cries hoarse
>> over
>> >> it and whom you
>> >> are attempting to shield from criticisms here ?
>> >
>> >Thanks for rejecting the voting by Indian/Assamese
>> >population. This really shows how much willing
>> you
>> >are to accept the verdict of people. You will
>> surely
>> >reject the referendum on similar flimsy ground that
>> >these people do not know what they are doing. And
>> >before you jump on debate and discussion , if
>> there
>> >is a really free platform to debate (without
>> threats
>> >from some sections), there will be many more voice
>> >rejecting the Sovereignty issue.
>> >
>> >As you have noticed, the Assamese intellegsia has
>> >already rejected Sovereign Assam theory (if you
> > think
>> >otherwise, tell me 10 prominent people of Assam who
>> >support it); you have already rejected the voting
>> by
>>
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