[Assam] media and their responsibility in Assam

Sat Dec 1 06:45:14 PST 2007

DearDileep, You are a sensitive type.You are conscious about your duties as Editor/ThinkTank running a serious weekly Assamese newspaper which remains as the only MEDIA  in families in Villages. There they cannot afford Daily papers. There they want to Learn. Is there something you can teach? To everybody in the family 10>90.Because nobody teaches them.  Everybody in the city is scared of them .'What will happen to us when people KNOW'. Your Circulation is nothing. Your Earnings are nothing. Your owner/publisher wants your paper and you as a showoff.As an icon of serious Truth. Only asset you have. Use that asset.Tell people in Advance: 'Watch out--I am going to change course-- I am going to tell you all the Truth. You need me. And I need you as Cheerleaders. So read me --or you are in deep trouble--of being in the darkness like the Assamese had been in -the last many Centuries.' Assume you got that far. Now You be Careful. Parag Das was not careful. The rest as they say will be HISTORY.  PEOPLE WOULD FRET THE WHOLE WEEK FOR YOUR PAPER to arrive.  Tell them  every week:' Daily papers are like bamboo fire. Mine will be Saal Kath fire . Daily papers give you flashes of headaches. My weekly will be your only source of knowledge and ---WISDOM . There is not enough to read for you and family from a daily -whose format is copied from some irrelevant country/economy.'  And you be prepared to burn midnight oil. Gather data source/essaywriters/serious commentators. People are waiting for you to think and tell them. Are you prepared?Many including Assamnetters will help you to fulfill your mission.They will also be helped by you interactively. Subjects  Like--you may ask:

Review/Explanation of every word of Speech by Chairman Arabinda Rajkhowa  -see attachment
The full facts on Digital Electricic meters into ASSAM- Stakeholders/gains/losses/Cheating-byASEB
BOGIBEELBridge -all about it --Complete--what they should now Do?
GAS CRacker Project- Panoramic from all angles --even you know no more than a few catch words now.
How Sovereign Assam is the only way India can ever hope to be a Great Nation
Tarun Gogoi's hopes of getting Investments and meaningful employments for 1.5 Crore/1,5 Lakh/ 1500
Should Adivashis return to where they were brought from?What will Assamese do then?
Should there be Oxomiya Toka or every Goshthy's own Toka?
Who should people elect as their Leader--a Party-a distant goddess--or the local hooligan?

There is no shortage for 52 weeks!Thinkmm

Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2007 18:39:18 +0000From: dileepchandan at rediffmail.comTo: mikemahant at hotmail.comSubject: [Assam] media and their responsibility in Assam  Thank you Dada,Try to explain something more on the role of  Assamese or local media in this situation -how they are working.We can learn a lot from this lession and that will help our next generation who will work for new media.This is important.Dileep ChandanOn Fri, 30 Nov 2007 mc mahant wrote :>>Dileep, I agree. Assamese will all agree.>for all media.But this should not be taken for granted.Everybody should know and have some respect to those people and place,where they are coming as a media person.Nothing should be taken for granted> > Dileep Chandan> > Dileep Chandan> Editor,'ASOM BANI'  > Tribune Buildings> Guwahati 781003> Assam> ph;9435014229> > On Thu, 29 Nov 2007 assam-request at assamnet.org wrote :> >Send assam mailing list submissions to> > assam at assamnet.org> >> >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit> > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to> > assam-request at assamnet.org> >> >You can reach the person managing the list at> > assam-owner at assamnet.org> >> >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific> >than 'Re: Contents of assam digest...'> >> >> >Today's Topics:> >> > 1. Statement of BHRPC regarding The Violence in Guwahati> > (Krishnendu Chakraborty)> > 2. Re: CNN-IBN- NDTV news report on Assam - 27th Nov'2007 (Ram Dhar)> > 3. Shame for us (Mohan R. Palleti)> > 4. Wakeup call from Beltola (Mohan R. Palleti)> > 5. Two classes at IITs, US univs etc (umesh sharma)> > 6. On 1996 tour, Gary Kirsten hated India - TOI (Ram Sarangapani)> > 7. Mischief afoot (shantikam hazarika)> > 8. Re: Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India> > (muktikam phukan)> > 9. 'Media projected Assam divide' (Buljit Buragohain)> > 10. Author, if you are that IGNORANT; hear it loud and clear, the> > ULFA exists because India is denying fulfilment of the UNIVERSAL> > rights of self-determination Assam posses. You cannot ?UNDERMINE?> > that right into oblivion, with your moronic penning. (Bartta Bistar)> > 11. Citizens' meet (ranenkumar goswami)> > 12. Re: Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India> > (muktikam phukan)> > 13. Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India> > (Krishnendu Chakraborty)> > 14. Rally by Womens' org.s: from The AT (Alpana B. Sarangapani)> > 15. Visual Account of the Day in Beltola (Dilip/Dil Deka)> > 16. Re: Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India> > (Nayanjyoti Medhi)> > 17. Re: Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India> > (Alpana B. Sarangapani)> >> >> >----------------------------------------------------------------------> >> >Message: 1> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 10:02:33 -0800 (PST)> > From: Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com>> >Subject: [Assam] Statement of BHRPC regarding The Violence in Guwahati> >To: assam at assamnet.org> >Message-ID: <598269.55912.qm at web58010.mail.re3.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> >I agree with Umesh. It clearly said all Assamese> >people . You cannot paint a whole community in black> >just because of some bad apples. With this logic,> >Bengalis are to be blamed because of Nandigram,> >Gujratis for Gujrat riot, Americans for Iraq and so> >on> >> >The incident does not have anything to do with> >Chauvinism (assamese or otherwise) . It is a criminal> >act. . I see some amount of chauvinism though when> >people try to cover it up with absurd arguments or try> >to paint the criminal in regional colors.> >But as we see, the Assamese community by and large> >has condemned the incident.> >> >Probably the most chauvinistic are the people who are> >passing such absurd comments ... painting a whole> >community in black> >> >> >> >> > >>You read it wrong. You should say 'those who are NOT> >Assamese should not take offense' --because it accuses> >all Assamese people.> >> >> > >>Umesh> >> > >>Waliulllah Ahmed Laskar <wlllhlaskar at yahoo.com>> >wrote: Dear Group> >Members,> >> > >> Thanks a lot to Umesh and Mukul for posting> >comments on the statement> > >> of BHRPC. The objection raised by them are serious.> >But I think in the> > >> statement there is nothing to object because the> >statement does not> > >> accuse any people considering their creed, caste,> >religion, language> > >> or place of birth. It just attacked the chauvinist> >mind set of the> > >> Assamese people. So who are not chauvinists should> >not take offense.> >> > Regards> > Wali Laskar> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________> >Get easy, one-click access to your favorites.> >Make Yahoo! your homepage.> >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> >> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 2> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 16:35:54 -0500> > From: Ram Dhar <ramdhar at hotmail.com>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] CNN-IBN- NDTV news report on Assam - 27th> > Nov'2007> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the> > world <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID: <BAY105-W252A0251A6964F2231C3FFAE770 at phx.gbl>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset='Windows-1252'> >> >> >> > >>> TV--INDIAN channels particularly -is total waste of time and a( mostly) mental health hazard.>>> We should ban these forever.> >Hi Mahanta da,> >I beg to differ , infact news analysis and talk shows on current affairs-sports-business are quite good.> >> >an example here -> >http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/52566/nandigram-matter-of-concern-not-shame.html> >> >these kind of programs were not there until Private channels were allowed in 90s.> >We have come a long way from the 80s dull n boring Doordarshan( govt mouth piece) programs.> > Anchors like Pronoy Roy, Karan Thapar, Burkha Dutt ,Shekhar Gupta are among the very best in the world.> >> >Yes, true not all 50 plus channels have same standard but atleast viewers in India now have the choice to watch from so many of them.> >Whether they are fair and balanced (example this gauhati flare up) ...it's upto the viewers to decide and clearly these channels should have given more air time to majority of Gauhati/Assam residents who didn't support this mindless violence and that lady who was stripped and chased .> >> >note - Print media has now reported some> >Mamoni Goswami speaks to the victim :> >http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071128/asp/frontpage/story_8601981.asp> >Beltola residents Cry for arrests of voyeurs:> >http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071128/asp/guwahati/story_8601391.asp> >Assam singer/artists :> >Words of comfort for victims> >http://www.telegraphindia.com/1071128/asp/guwahati/story_8600336.asp> >> >> >take care ,> >RD> >> >> > > From: mikemahant at hotmail.com> To: assam at assamnet.org> Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 08:09:36 +0530> Subject: Re: [Assam] CNN-IBN- NDTV news report on Assam - 27th Nov'2007> > > TV--INDIAN channels particularly -is total waste of time and a( mostly) mental health hazard.> We should ban these forever.> mm> > From: ramdhar at hotmail.com> To: assam at assamnet.org> Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 10:17:32 -0500> Subject: [Assam] CNN-IBN- NDTV news report on Assam - 27th Nov'2007> > > NDTV video news report on todays Assam bandh-> http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/videopod/default.aspx?id=19977> > also read this , Assam govt gags TV channels for showing torture--> > http://www.ibnlive.com/news/assam-gags-tv-channels-for-showing-tribal-torture/53130-3.html> > > great to have web TV access these days for folks like us living far away from home !> > > > > > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:21:34 -0800From: dilipdeka at yahoo.comTo: assam at assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India> Shame on Beltola residents who let it go to this extent!> > Read the report from the Telegraph and see for yourself who have taken over the streets of Guwahati, in this case the street vendors. Does that hold true for all of Guwahati? I hope that is not the case in Uzanbazar where I grew up.> I suspect this is how the sequence/chronology went:> The front line of the processionists got violent, damaged property all along and ran.> The business owners and their employees started revenge on the next batch of processionists that consisted of the non-violent weaker members including this woman.> The local residents and reinforcement of security forces got into action and controlled the street mob to bring an end to the fury.> > Unfortunately I felt many years ago this is how Guwahati will turn out to be due to uncontrolled growth. What can I say?> Dilip Deka> ===================================================> > > > > > FROM THE TELEGRAPH> Shame on Guwahati streets> > A STAFF REPORTER> > > > > > > Guwahati, Nov. 26: A young Adivasi woman ran down a Guwahati street naked, stripped by ethnic rioters, while leering city youths clicked away with their cellphone cameras.> As television today brought to Assam homes one more scene of Saturday?s street horror ? when hundreds of tribals were attacked over a 3.5km stretch of the city ? police arrested the woman?s three tormentors.> ?The three had pounced on her like a pack of dogs and started stripping her. All her pleas fell on deaf ears till they had stripped her naked. Only then did they let her go,? said a police officer quoting eyewitnesses to the mob retaliation to a violent Adivasi students? march.> The woman sprinted away from a large group of jeering men and ran on in panic till somebody threw her a piece of clothing.> The sight left homemaker Ananya Baruah dumbfounded on her second-floor balcony at Beltola, the epicentre from where the rioting spilled over several localities.> ?She was running like mad. Some people were clicking pictures with their cellphones. It was one of the worst crimes any civilised society could have committed. I felt so helpless just watching. The girl disappeared into one of the by-lanes.?> The victim was probably a participant in the armed Adivasi procession in demand of Scheduled Tribe status that had turned violent and damaged private and public property, including cars.> As the police began dispersing the tribals, angry local mobs chased down the stragglers among them. Adivasi men, women and children were dragged across streets and mercilessly beaten up with the police refusing to intervene. The violence left some 300 injured and a 12-year-old boy dead. > The ethnic conflict claimed a second life this morning. Santosh Kumar, 17, was dragged out of a vehicle on a highway for ?defying? an Adivasi-enforced bandh that was yet to begin, and hacked to death.> Chief minister Tarun Gogoi announced the arrests of the trio who had stripped the woman and offered the victim Rs 1 lakh in compensation. Prasenjit Chakravarty, Sandip Chakdar and Ratul Barman were nabbed on the basis of video footage and eyewitness accounts.> Ratul, a waiter at Mahalaxmi Hotel in Beltola, is barely 18. The main accused is Prasenjit, 28, owner of Dainty Fast Food restaurant in the same locality. Sandip, 20, owns a paan shop near the hotel where Ratul works.> The charges against them range from outraging a woman?s modesty to attempt to murder. > Gogoi announced a judicial probe into the violence by the All Adivasi Students? Association of Assam as well as the mob backlash. The state government has announced a compensation of Rs 3 lakh for the families of the dead.Ram Dhar <ramdhar at hotmail.com> wrote:> > > infact it did happen ..Please note - you may find this video content very very disturbing.Really shocked to see this happening in our Gauhati. CNN-IBN video- http://www.ibnlive.com/videos/53043/guwahati-residents-strip-beat-up-women-protestors.html> > > Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 15:10:55 -0600From: assamrs at gmail.comTo: assam at assamnet.orgSubject: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of India> This news, IF TRUE, is a darn shame, and if it is NOT, then we should all join hand in vehemently protesting to the TOI, and demand that the publish clarifications prominently and apologize to Assam & her people. > > > > --Ram> > > > Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati27 Nov 2007, 0001 hrs IST ,TNNSMS NEWS to 58888 for latest updates > > > > > > GUWAHATI: Like in most bandhs and protests, poor adivasi workers from the once lush tea gardens of Assam did dent business and damage some property as they marched through Guwahati to demand inclusion in the Scheduled Tribes list which will help them get easier access to education and jobs. But it was one adivasi woman who bore the brunt of the anger of local residents. She was attacked, her clothes were ripped off and a mob chased the naked woman along the streets. Ducking from prying eyes and TV cameras and terrified by screams of a mob chasing her, the woman ran until some other residents rescued her on Saturday and gave her clothes and cover both from the lathi-wielding police and the assailants. Two days later, after the protests spiralled as news of the attack on the woman got out, Assam's CM Tarun Gogoi said he was enraged by the crowd behaviour and police said three of the assailants had been arrested. He announced a Rs 1 lakh compensation for the woman, whose identity was not disclosed. 'I am horrified by the incident. I cannot believe how people can be so inhuman and barbaric. Everybody seems to have lost their sense,' said Gogoi on Monday. The CM also announced a judicial inquiry into Saturday's violence. Police said three men were picked up from their houses early Monday. They were identified as Prasenjit Chakravorty (28), owner of a fast food joint, Ratul Barman (18), a hotel waiter, and Sudip Chakdar (20), a pan shop owner. Jharkhand Mukti Morcha chief Sibu Soren, who has pitched in for Assam's adivasi migrants, said the incident demonstrated the racial hatred for tribals. 'I have also led many agitations, but never had we targeted women. Adivasis across the country are always looked down upon and do not get the respect they deserve from people and the government as a whole,' Soren said on Monday after visiting injured protesters. Former Jharkhand CM Babulal Marandi also waded in as the bandh took a tribal vs non-tribal hue. He flew into Guwahati Monday afternoon and went straight for a press conference with the main opposition party Assam Gana Parishad (AGP). 'This is a conspiracy hatched by Congress government,' he charged. Although Guwahati remained largely peaceful in the last phase of the 36-hour protest that began on Saturday, the stripping incident gave it a new impetus in many areas where the sponsors, the All Adivasi Students' Association of Assam, had clout. Sporadic violence was reported and bandh supporters attacked one vehicle at Karigaon in Kokrajhar district, killing one person and injuring two others. So far, at least six people have been killed in clashes between adivasi activists and local people. About 250 people have been injured in police action or clashes. > > Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live. Share now! _______________________________________________assam mailing listassam at assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> _________________________________________________________________> Connect and share in new ways with Windows Live.> http://www.windowslive.com/connect.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_newways_112007> _______________________________________________> assam mailing list> assam at assamnet.org> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> _________________________________________________________________> Post free property ads on Yello Classifieds now! www.yello.in> http://ss1.richmedia.in/recurl.asp?pid=221> _______________________________________________> assam mailing list> assam at assamnet.org> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >_________________________________________________________________> >Put your friends on the big screen with Windows Vista? + Windows Live?.> >http://www.microsoft.com/windows/shop/specialoffers.mspx?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_CPC_MediaCtr_bigscreen_102007> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 3> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:51:09 -0500 (EST)> > From: 'Mohan R. Palleti' <mrpallet at ncsu.edu>> >Subject: [Assam] Shame for us> >To: assam at assamnet.org> >Message-ID: <2780.152.1.32.125.1196297469.squirrel at webmail.ncsu.edu>> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1> >> >I am ashamed of what happened at Beltola. The shame that 3 men brought us> >in the international front page. This is not Assam that I know and am> >proud of! and these men do not represent the whole community.> >> >As for the poor girl and her family, she has my moral support. If there is> >any way I can help, I would like to do so.> >> >But I also agree with you that all these people who have been here for> >such a long period of time, should not be still calling themselves> >adivai's. By now they should be mainstream assamese people. By no means I> >would call them tribal people. They have a regular income which is far> >more than the average assamese people who do not work in Tea Gardens.> >> >To be in a Schedule Tribe or Schedule Caste status it is advantageous only> >if one is looking for Goverment Jobs. All this will no longer be important> >when privatization of Public sectors takes place.> >> >Assam Government and society should come forward and change the satus of> >the Adivis's to a more assamese status, so that they are not alienated. We> >should not be doing the same mistakes made by our forefathers. After all> >Assam is a mix of several different communites. Remember if our> >forefathers did not alienate the Naga's socially, They would be a part of> >Assam. So would the seven sisters be a whole integrated family.> >> >Mohan R. Palleti> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 4> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:52:23 -0500 (EST)> > From: 'Mohan R. Palleti' <mrpallet at ncsu.edu>> >Subject: [Assam] Wakeup call from Beltola> >To: assam at assamnet.org> >Message-ID: <2788.152.1.32.125.1196297543.squirrel at webmail.ncsu.edu>> >Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1> >> >Assam Agribusiness Statistics published by NIC, inform that in the year> >2000 the total number of laborers employed in Tea Gradens in Assam is> >60253 Assuming that there were no children at home and there were nobody> >unemployed, and therefore assume that every tea garden employee was> >accounted for.> >> >If the decadal growth rate of Assam is 18.85%, then today's population> >should be around 7,950383. However modest this calculation is, be aware> >that this is a big number to reckon with in terms of political power. The> >actual figure however will be much larger than this.> >> >Guess what would happen if all these people because of some political> >influence change their religion because they have been crushed under the> >foot and suddenly remember that they have been alienated for a long time.> >> >I seriously think that the Assam government should provide them with a> >assamese status and no longer call them adivasis. Adivasi means> >aborigines. They may have been aborigines from another state with a> >distinct culture. So is everybody an aborigine from another culture. In> >assam itself we have several indigenious cultures, who do not call> >themselves adivasis. The present day tea garden laborers came here during> >pre-independance. But today everybody speaks assamese. Children go to> >assamese schools. The should be given a new assamese name. Maybe something> >like Hazira okhomia's or something that ties them with Assam. Evey tea> >garden should have a namghor where these people should be encouraged to> >join the mainstream if they are Hindu's. Other faiths can have their own> >synagogues.> >> >This way a strategic balance will be maintained.> >> >Thanks> >Mohan Rao Palleti> >I am Geographic Information Systems (GIS) Analyst> >with NC State University in Raleigh, North Carolina> >> >> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 5> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:58:12 -0800 (PST)> > From: umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>> >Subject: [Assam] Two classes at IITs, US univs etc> >To: assam at assamnet.org> >Message-ID: <363744.58792.qm at web60412.mail.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> >Hi,> >> >While discussing with NRIs here and trying to seek internship for my student at IIT everyone asked me what is the need for a foreign internship. They all came here to work forever or as students initially. I said that it is a trend at IITs these days and a third of IITians go abroad for internships. Many have tried to help. But I am begining to realize that if I was a rich uncle in America who has been stayinghere for long and hence developed long term networks it would not have been difficult for me to secure internship - or even pay for the stay if unpaid internship.> >> > Indeed I have come to know quite a few uncles and aunts who fund or bear living expenses of their nephews and nieces and in some cases sponsor their H1B work visas so that they can work in their own labs etc. In all such cases the regional setup of India is reflected. Either the uncles and aunts are from Delhi or from Chennai or Bangalore. One girl who was my roommate for sometime was sponsored by her uncle in a rich area in DC suburb- she was from Mumbai, her father a senior Vice President at Godrej.> >> >I think this pattern is being reflected even at India's top educational institutions. There was perhaps a time that only nerds entered IITs based on their academics. It is true it is very tough to get in still but even upper middle class parents having gobal connections make their kids train hard and get in. I have known rich industrialists also eager for their kids to get into IITs -instead of going to some top liberal arts college like Oxford, Cambridge. Infosys chief famously remarked that his son went to Cornell because he couldn't get into IITs.> >> >But such well placed parents or relatives can also help secure global internships or fund them even in unpaid ones. Or later use their contacts land global level jobs abroad in US dollars.> >> >To some extent this class bias is in US univs also but those who face it are keenly aware of it before they join the univs. So are ready to face the challenge or ready to wait longer to reach the same level of 'success.'> >International students realize even when they come to study that job prospects will be harder for them since they are not citizens -- and thus they do not feel the social pressure or the heartburn that much if and when they find that their local US counterparts securing better jobs etc.> >> >In India parents and friends tar all IITians etc in the same brush and hence expect all graduates and students to achieve 'success' (in quotes) at same time. Which is unrealistic?> >> >Umesh> >> >PS: Also it seems to me that IIT Alumni groups in USA etc are not for helping current students with internships or job advice but somewhat like 'mutual Admiration Societies' or at best for fund raising to help IITs' financing. They don't even have email addresses seeking to help anyone who is not an alum.> >http://www.iitfoundation.org/msgboard/showmsglist.php?id=2> >> >Perhaps they should atleast make support groups for IIT girl students (only 10% of IIT students) or those from marginalized groups or from remote areas having no access to cultural/social capital.> >> >Even western jobs are mostly through networking - 60% of jobs are through networking . Perhaps this trend is spreading to India as well - where positions are advertised only when you cannot fill them through networks of friends or family members.> >> >> >> >> >> >Umesh Sharma> >> >Washington D.C.> >> >1-202-215-4328 [Cell]> >> >Ed.M. - International Education Policy> >Harvard Graduate School of Education,> >Harvard University,> >Class of 2005> >> >http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)> >> >http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)> >> >> >> >> >www.gse.harvard.edu/iep (where the above 2 are used )> >http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/> >> >> >> >http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/> >> >---------------------------------> > Yahoo! Answers - Get better answers from someone who knows. Tryit now.> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 6> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 22:03:32 -0600> > From: 'Ram Sarangapani' <assamrs at gmail.com>> >Subject: [Assam] On 1996 tour, Gary Kirsten hated India - TOI> >To: 'A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the> > world' <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID:> > <6e564ddf0711282003y57cfdec5l9d9a9d3db89e368c at mail.gmail.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1252> >> >This is interesting. Don't really know Gary Kristen, but for someone> >hailing from South Africa, its a stretch to be disappointed with Indian> >conditions,> >while SA can hardly be called 'developed'.> >> >-Ram> >> >> >http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/On_1996_tour_Gary_Kirsten_hated_India/articleshow/2579788.cms> >> >NEW DELHI: Quiz question: Which South African cricketer wrote the following> >words for a journal in his 1996-97 India tour dairy: '62 days in a country> >where westernised living conditions are regarded a luxury is no task for the> >faint-hearted.'> >> >Answer: Gary Kirsten.> >> >In fact, his tour diary indicates that the former opening batsman had> >problems with almost every aspect of the Indian condition: food,> >socializing, travelling.> >> >The tour diary was published in the December 1996-January 1997 issue of SA> >Cricket Action. Kirsten also wrote that 'to spread cricket to all corners of> >India, we played in what could politely be classed as one-horse towns,> >places with more cows on the street than cars.'> >> >For the record, the South Africans played one-day games in Hyderabad,> >Indore, Jaipur, Faridabad, Rajkot, Guwahati and Mumbai. The Tests were> >played at Ahmedabad, Kolkata and Kanpur.> >> >'I'll never forget arriving in Rajkot ? laughter broke out in the bus when> >we were told we had reached our hotel, yet there didn't seem to be one in> >sight. It was actually above another building... A sense of humour is a> >necessity on this tour,' wrote Kirsten. One wonders how the present BCCI> >secretary Niranjan Shah, who hails from Rajkot, would react to that.> >> >Kirsten, who has been offered a two-year term with a package similar to Greg> >Chappell's, had also cribbed about the unavailability of direct flights to a> >playing destination.> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 7> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:53:51 +0530> > From: shantikam hazarika <shntikamhaz at hotmail.com>> >Subject: [Assam] Mischief afoot> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the> > world <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID: <BAY116-W37677647C24332716D963FB3700 at phx.gbl>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset='Windows-1252'> >> >> >That is why, I think Arnab Goswami has a different level of credibility in the tv media. Timesnow has always beena responsible media; only that it uis becoming a one man show.> >> >Shantikam Hazarika> >Director,> >Assam Institute of Management> >PO Box 30, GUWAHATI 781001, India> >HOME PAGE: www.aimguwahati.edu.in> >> >> >Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 04:46:05 +0000From: muktikamp at yahoo.co.inTo: assam at assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] Mischief afoot> >TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation. In fact Arnab Goswami has raised a very pertinent question -> >> >'HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING FURTHER INSULT TO THE ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?'shantikam hazarika <shntikamhaz at hotmail.com> wrote:> >> >> >I am sure if Homen Borgohain's Amar Axom would not have published the photograph of the helpless woman first, anyone else would have dared to republish it. Today Telegraph has published the same photo in a slightly enlarged version. No doubt, when we try to accost the anti Assam media, they would say that they have reproduced something from the Assamese media only, what is wrong in that?That has been our problem. Our own media is so busy sensationalising that they have not considered various aspects before going ahead. For e.g. one paper has headlined that Bhaben Saikia's Arohan has been badly damaged. Till now I am not sure how much of it has been damaged, has it been vandalised? All that was required was to pick up the phone and ring up Mrs. Bhaben saikia or any other opffice bearer but very few did that. I am sure all genuine Assamese would be concerned about Arohan.> >> >Shantikam Hazarika> >Director,> >Assam Institute of Management> >PO Box 30, GUWAHATI 781001, India> >HOME PAGE: www.aimguwahati.edu.in> >> >> >Date: Mon, 26 Nov 2007 09:01:39 +0000From: biku006 at yahoo.co.inTo: assam at assamnet.orgSubject: Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 28, Issue 39/Assam] Mischief afoot> >> >> >Friends,> >Now the time has also came for review of Media like TV live,Newspapers and the so called reporters which are mostly Bengale or Bihari operating from Assam and the lone cameraman being Assamese origin.WE have encient newspapers like what Late Radha gobinda Baruah established.However his expectations are no more.The Assamese media or newspapers failed to make Assam a proud of India.Instead we can easily see the infight to NRA or irritating them more by these categories.Neiterh they lack behind the proper publishing languages or skills.All are limited to make turmoil inside Assam and Axomiya in whole.Living outside Assam, we fail to get the exact incidents or news.All we ned to depend upon the so caled Bengal based reports or Delhi based reports given by the Bengalee reporter.> >Till now if any news to be given to any Assma so called leading dailies/weekly/Fortnightlys, we have to mail by post.Nothing is availbale on net or fast circulation outside the state.Why so the concerned news/media management must look into.> >I will give one simple example- Months ago I did protested strongly about Swaheed Kanaklata issue against wrong misleading publication by Indian Coast Guard.I did informed to Then Xabhapati Axom Xahitya Xabha Xabhapati Dr.Kanaksen Deka.Nothing happened.Then I personally wrote to one of the known man at amar Axom, it was published with heading on 08 Aug 2007.Later wrote with all relevent letters to Prantik- what should be Dr Bhaben Saikia Sirs best production.They took months and later my A4 size 5 page was converted to a small para and published as a letter with no moral value!!! When I did caled up to GHY ofice, I was only pleased with they get thousand of leters, so no time to reply!!!This is what happens with Assam pride media.> >Attacking us, we being outside singing for our home land is easy.Our fault is Assamese.But its now time for our own media to wake up and look their own fault and open voice with their strong thoughts.Please stop irritating us as what ULFA cadres do!> >I wish Assam based media coverages be fully with well versed people of Assam- who know the root cause of anything.Not like AAjtak and NDTV to keep relaying the whole nonsense clips to give more bad vision of Assam and its people every day.> >With RG Baruah pride, now Assam Tribune management must come up please with good edition of web news and TV Channel.The so called ofice sitting TV coverages must be prevented or be warned off any anti assamese relays.> >Anyone ready??> >> >Dr.Bikash Kumar Das> >Bangalore> >> >> >> > From: shntikamhaz at hotmail.comTo: assam at assamnet.org; assam_dubai at yahoogroups.com; assamfoundation1 at yahoogroups.com; assamsociety at yahoogroups.com; assamonline at yahoogroups.comDate: Sun, 25 Nov 2007 10:14:28 +0530Subject: [Assam] Mischief afoot> >> >Pradip Kumar Dutta is very fast in spreading canard.The incident was a highly localised one. Only around Beltola tiniali to Dispur. Curfew was declared only on that stretch not on the city. In fact only one death has been announced, and that too in the hospital, so far. The clashes did not spread to Khanapara area as stated. My elder brother who stays behind GNRC, and my elder sister who stays on the road behind the MLA hostel did not feel any thing at all though the happenings took place within a km of their residence.The whole thing is very very unfortunate. I am sure the AASA leaders never thought it would go out of hand.Also there has been maturity on part of the AASA leaders that they have not talked about retaliation. Though the Telegraph sys that there would be a 36 hr Assam bandh on Monday, no other paper says so.It is no use blowing things out of proportion or indulge in blame game. The spark has to be nipped in the bud. I am aware of many people who got injured trying to prevent some people whose shops were vanadlised becoming vey violent and bent on retaliation. Everyone should reach out with balms of love and our century old tradition. At our Institute, TCS was having interviews and till 2.00 pm we were not aware of anything till there was a message from TCS Calcutta office asking the TCS personnel to come back to Calcutta immediately because of riots in Guwahati. As such they were catching the 4.30 flight from Guwahati and their interview had finifhsed so they went to the airport by 2.15 pm. Then we found that the national networks of the tv chnnels were cooking up stories sitting on their studios and playing on the visuals being sent from Guwahati. As an Guwahatian I am more angry at the media than ashamed of what has happened here.> >> >Shantikam Hazarika> >Director,> >Assam Institute of Management> >PO Box 30, GUWAHATI 781001, India> >HOME PAGE: www.aimguwahati.edu.in> >> >Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it.> >> >Live the life in style with MSN Lifestyle. Check out! Try it now! _______________________________________________assam mailing listassam at assamnet.orghttp://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >> >> >> >> >Muktikam Phukan> >Deputy Director (NR)> >Petroleum Conservation Research Association> >Sanrakshan Bhawan,10, Bhikaiji Cama Place,New Delhi 110066> >Ph: +91 11 26198856 Ext 385, Mob: +91 9818598565> >email: phukanm at pcra.org , muktikamp at yahoo.co.in> >> >> >> >Love shopping? Click here to find the best shops in every city.> >_________________________________________________________________> >Tried the new MSN Messenger? It?s cool! Download now.> >http://messenger.msn.com/Download/Default.aspx?mkt=en-in> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 8> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 05:45:08 +0000 (GMT)> > From: muktikam phukan <muktikamp at yahoo.co.in>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of> > India> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the> > world <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID: <510425.89747.qm at web8410.mail.in.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> >Dear Mr Chakraborty> >> > HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ?> >> > Regards> > Muktikam Phukan> >> >> >Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com> wrote:> > Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred the> >face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such> >henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon> >but is done by media all over world.> >> >> >What is the allegation against media ---> >> >1) That they exposed a crime> >> >2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity> >> >3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by> >the photograph) has been insulted> >> >Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is> >number 2 above.> >> >But then, had media not exposed it, would there been> >such swift action from GOA. The GOA was earlier trying> >to cover it up as a minor incident.> >The Assam Police already mentiond that they have> >identified the culprits from the media footage.> >> >If someone can prove that what media showed is> >false/fabricated, I am all with him in blaming media> >but this does not seem to be the case here.> >> >Yes, it gave a negative publicity to Assam but that> >was NOT because of Media's fault .... it was because> >of our Government's fault. The incident could have> >been controlled much earlier had the police force been> >active.> >> >To dilute the situation, there are already comments by> >some that the Adivasi's were inebriated, or that why> >they should demand such things in Assam.> >All set aside, there cannot be any justification to> >such barbaric act .. period.> >> >BTW, does someone know what happened to Barnali rape> >case ..... a child who was raped and murdered by some> >Network travel employees?> >> >> > >>Media always exposes such incidents be it Assam or> >Abu Ghraib. I thought it is duty of Media.> >> >> > >> TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped> >woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation.> >In fact Arnab >>Goswami has raised a very pertinent> >question -> >> > >> 'HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY> >BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING> >FURTHER INSULT TO THE >>ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?'> >> >> >> >> >____________________________________________________________________________________> >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.> >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> >> >_______________________________________________> >assam mailing list> >assam at assamnet.org> >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >> >> >> > Muktikam Phukan> > Deputy Director (NR)> > Petroleum Conservation Research Association> > Sanrakshan Bhawan,10, Bhikaiji Cama Place,New Delhi 110066> > Ph: +91 11 26198856 Ext 385, Mob: +91 9818598565> > email: phukanm at pcra.org , muktikamp at yahoo.co.in> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >---------------------------------> > Now you can chat without downloading messenger. Click here to know how.> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 9> >Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2007 18:22:41 +0000 (GMT)> > From: Buljit Buragohain <buluassam at yahoo.co.in>> >Subject: [Assam] 'Media projected Assam divide'> >To: assam at assamnet.org> >Message-ID: <885956.54142.qm at web8610.mail.in.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> >'Any atrocity on women and children is condemnable.But It is very pathetic to see the media only projecting the negative aspect of all events.The man who saved and covered the naked women with his own cloth and the numerous unknown faces who gave shelter and security to many victims,common people who donated blood to save the injured in the hospital never got mentioned in the coverage.I wonder why good deeds of common Indians are never highlighted in our media.Come on media, be positive,good ,unbiased ,rather than negative,provocative,damaging and maligning the whole society Posted by Pradip at 16:1 on Nov 28, 2007'> > http://www.ndtv.com/convergence/ndtv/story.aspx?id=NEWEN20070034190&ch=11/28/2007%207:23:00%20PM> >> >> >বুলজিৎ বুঢ়াগোহাঁই> >> >---------------------------------> > 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Click here.> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 10> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:29:28 +0000> > From: 'Bartta Bistar' <barttabistar at googlemail.com>> >Subject: [Assam] Author, if you are that IGNORANT; hear it loud and> > clear, the ULFA exists because India is denying fulfilment of the> > UNIVERSAL rights of self-determination Assam posses. You cannot> > ?UNDERMINE? that right into oblivion, with your moronic penning.> >To: AssamNet <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID:> > <23e0addc0711282229v20f24277p2dbac2a9f143e7bf at mail.gmail.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1> >> >TOP STORIES> >A few surrenders of ULFA cadres mean little> >http://in.news.yahoo.com/071128/48/6ntu6.html> >> ><http://in.rd.yahoo.com/expressnews/SIG=11738n0j1/**http%3A%2F%2Fwww.expressindia.com%2F>> >> >> > By IE> >> >*Thursday November 29, 02:23 AM*> >> >Assam is in the news for all the wrong reasons. While new problems, like> >renewed adivasi activism, have surfaced before the Gogoi government, the old> >ones remain. One recent development however has given hope: the recent> >surrender of ULFA cadres. At least 118 of them have laid down their arms> >over the month of October and November. Both the government and the army> >have claimed it is the success of their policies. However, there are several> >pertinent questions to be answered. For one, this is not the first time we> >have seen such mass surrenders. The point is that they have not led to a> >decline of ULFA as an organisation.> >> >The outfit has always been able to successfully regroup even after such> >reversals. ULFA's traditional recruitment base - in the Nalbari district of> >Lower Assam and in pockets in the Dibrugarh and Tinsukia districts of Upper> >Assam - has over the years seen fewer recruits. The cadre composition has> >also been widely diversified. ULFA has also adopted a change in tactics. It> >now focuses on attacking urban centres, leaving rural areas largely free of> >such terror. This helps maintain at least a semblance of a support base in> >rural areas , crucial for networking.> >> >It is also important to remember that in such a long-drawn-out movement,> >instances of demoralisation among cadres are inevitable. The cadres, living> >separated from their families for a long time and fielding threats to their> >very survival, sometimes succumb to prospects of leading a normal life.> >However, it is important to make a distinction between the dilemmas facing> >ordinary cadres and those of the top leaders. In many of these surrenders,> >it is not hardcore cadres that figure, but ordinary foot soldiers.> >> >Unemployment is a major trigger for youth joining ULFA. They see it as an> >easy way out of their problems. The outfit, exploiting their discontentment,> >lures them into the organisation. It is only after the hardships of their> >new life becomes more manifest that disillusionment sets in and the> >incentives offered by the government begin to appear attractive. It is> >important therefore to discover whether these surrenders actually mean a> >surrender of faith or a surrender in the face of overwhelming circumstances.> >Only when we understand this can we assess the future of ULFA. Assam needs> >more tangible evidence of the undermining of ULFA. Surrenders of a few> >cadres could be deceptive. Indeed, the state should now brace up for further> >attacks by ULFA, which it will carry out, if only to show that it still has> >the strength and will to strike despite desertion by a few.> >> >*The author is a researcher at the Institute of Peace and Conflict Studies,> >New Delhi*> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 11> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 12:40:54 +0000 (GMT)> > From: ranenkumar goswami <goswamiranenkr at yahoo.co.in>> >Subject: [Assam] Citizens' meet> >To: assam at assamnet.org> >Message-ID: <926917.99427.qm at web8911.mail.in.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> >Citizens demand round-table meet> >> >Guwahati, November 29: A citizens' meet organised by> >the Journalists' Forum, Assam (JFA) on Thursday> >demanded a round-table conference among various ethnic> >groups in Assam to discuss their demands, which, in> >some cases, appear to be conflicting.> >The meeting held at the Guwahati Press Club, was> >organised in connection with the unfortunate incident> >of November 24 in the Beltola-Dispur area of the city> >and its aftermath.> >> >The citizens, who included noted litterateur Nirupama> >Borgohain and veteran journalist Dhirendra Nath> >Chakravarty, said in a resolution that the demands, if> >considered separately, might lead to further> >misunderstanding in an already polarised society.> >Hence, the plea for a round-table conference.> >> >In another resolution, the meeting, with JFA president> >Rupam Baruah in chair, called upon the people in> >general and the media in particular to remain vigilant> >against the divisive forces who are working overtime> >to drive a wedge between various sections of the> >people. It also urged the media to exercise extreme> >restraint while covering the incident and its> >aftermath.> >> >The citizens demanded of the Government to fix> >responsibility for the collapse of the administration> >on that day and mete out exemplary punishment to those> >found guilty. They also urged the authorities to> >punish those who instigated and indulged in vandalism> >and murderous assaults against innocents, and pay> >adequate compensation to the victims.> >> >Earlier, Pradip Thakuria and Arupjyoti Das, eye> >witnesses of the incident, related their first-hand> >account of the day. Those who spoke at the meeting> >included former M.L.A. Ajoy Dutta, senior journalists> >Hiten Mahanta, Nava Thakuria, Biman Hazarika, Dilip> >Chandan,Divas Phukan and Greater Guwahati Cable> >Operators' Association president Rajesh Sarma.> >> > Sent by Ranen Kumar Goswami on behalf of> >Journalists' Forum, Assam> >> >> >> >> >> > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. To know how, go to http://help.yahoo.com/l/in/yahoo/mail/yahoomail/tools/tools-08.html> >> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 12> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:00:25 +0000 (GMT)> > From: muktikam phukan <muktikamp at yahoo.co.in>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of> > India> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the> > world <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID: <126671.4341.qm at web8414.mail.in.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> >Dear Mr Chakraborty> >> > HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION. WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ?> >> > Regards> > Muktikam Phukan> >> >Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com> wrote:> > Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred the> >face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such> >henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon> >but is done by media all over world.> >> >> >What is the allegation against media ---> >> >1) That they exposed a crime> >> >2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity> >> >3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by> >the photograph) has been insulted> >> >Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is> >number 2 above.> >> >But then, had media not exposed it, would there been> >such swift action from GOA. The GOA was earlier trying> >to cover it up as a minor incident.> >The Assam Police already mentiond that they have> >identified the culprits from the media footage.> >> >If someone can prove that what media showed is> >false/fabricated, I am all with him in blaming media> >but this does not seem to be the case here.> >> >Yes, it gave a negative publicity to Assam but that> >was NOT because of Media's fault .... it was because> >of our Government's fault. The incident could have> >been controlled much earlier had the police force been> >active.> >> >To dilute the situation, there are already comments by> >some that the Adivasi's were inebriated, or that why> >they should demand such things in Assam.> >All set aside, there cannot be any justification to> >such barbaric act .. period.> >> >BTW, does someone know what happened to Barnali rape> >case ..... a child who was raped and murdered by some> >Network travel employees?> >> >> > >>Media always exposes such incidents be it Assam or> >Abu Ghraib. I thought it is duty of Media.> >> >> > >> TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped> >woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation.> >In fact Arnab >>Goswami has raised a very pertinent> >question -> >> > >> 'HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY> >BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING> >FURTHER INSULT TO THE >>ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?'> >> >> >> >> >____________________________________________________________________________________> >Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page.> >http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs> >> >_______________________________________________> >assam mailing list> >assam at assamnet.org> >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >> >> >> > Muktikam Phukan> > Deputy Director (NR)> > Petroleum Conservation Research Association> > Sanrakshan Bhawan,10, Bhikaiji Cama Place,New Delhi 110066> > Ph: +91 11 26198856 Ext 385, Mob: +91 9818598565> > email: phukanm at pcra.org , muktikamp at yahoo.co.in> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >---------------------------------> > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 13> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 06:33:40 -0800 (PST)> > From: Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com>> >Subject: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of> > India> >To: assam at assamnet.org> >Message-ID: <468900.63129.qm at web58001.mail.re3.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION.> > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS> > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ?> >> >> >So what is the solution .... shove it under the carpet> >just like our Netas were trying to do until Media> >exposed it ?> >> >By your logic a rape victim should not move to> >court/police station ! You would probably advice this> >if your relative is a victim of such incident.> >> > >From what I see in this forum, people are more> >concerned primarily because this exposure caused a> >negative publicity to Assam and NOT because they are> >concerned about the modesty of the woman. This is> >apparent from many questioning why media exposed it> >for Assam and never do it for other places .> >> >May I know why you are shouting ...... or is it just> >that the CAPS lock in your keyboard is stuck :)> >> >> >> >> > >>Dear Mr Chakraborty> >> > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION.> > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS> > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ?> >> > >> Regards> > >> Muktikam Phukan> >> > >>Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com>> >wrote:> > >> Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred> >the> >face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such> >henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon> >but is done by media all over world.> >> >> >What is the allegation against media ---> >> >1) That they exposed a crime> >> >2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity> >> >3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by> >the photograph) has been insulted> >> >Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is> >number 2 above.> >> >But then, had media not exposed it, would there been> >such swift action from GOA. The GOA was earlier trying> >to cover it up as a minor incident.> >The Assam Police already mentiond that they have> >identified the culprits from the media footage.> >> >If someone can prove that what media showed is> >false/fabricated, I am all with him in blaming media> >but this does not seem to be the case here.> >> >Yes, it gave a negative publicity to Assam but that> >was NOT because of Media's fault .... it was because> >of our Government's fault. The incident could have> >been controlled much earlier had the police force been> >active.> >> >To dilute the situation, there are already comments by> >some that the Adivasi's were inebriated, or that why> >they should demand such things in Assam.> >All set aside, there cannot be any justification to> >such barbaric act .. period.> >> >BTW, does someone know what happened to Barnali rape> >case ..... a child who was raped and murdered by some> >Network travel employees?> >> >> > >>Media always exposes such incidents be it Assam or> >Abu Ghraib. I thought it is duty of Media.> >> >> > >> TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped> >woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation.> >In fact Arnab >>Goswami has raised a very pertinent> >question -> >> > >> 'HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY> >BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING> >FURTHER INSULT TO THE >>ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?'> >> >> >> > ____________________________________________________________________________________> >Be a better pen pal.> >Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how. http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/> >> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 14> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 10:08:55 -0600> > From: 'Alpana B. Sarangapani' <absarangapani at hotmail.com>> >Subject: [Assam] Rally by Womens' org.s: from The AT> >To: 'assam at assamnet.org' <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID: <BLU123-W4387E664F94C48F1E3ABCEB3700 at phx.gbl>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset='Windows-1252'> >> >http://www.assamtribune.com/nov2907/Photo2.html> > Activists of women organisations taking out a rally in the city on Wednesday, demanding punishment to the culprits involved in the stripping of an Adivasi woman and proper investigation into the violence that took place at Beltola. ? UB Photos> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >?In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass?> >- Lakshmana> >> >> >> >_________________________________________________________________> >You keep typing, we keep giving. Download Messenger and join the i?m Initiative now.> >http://im.live.com/messenger/im/home/?source=TAGLM> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 15> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 08:53:54 -0800 (PST)> > From: Dilip/Dil Deka <dilipdeka at yahoo.com>> >Subject: [Assam] Visual Account of the Day in Beltola> >To: ASSAMNET <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID: <554229.57227.qm at web54109.mail.re2.yahoo.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1> >> >To get almost a visual account of the day in Beltola from a doctor who has a clinic there, please read http://www.asomiyapratidin.co.in/epaper/Login.aspx> >> > Dilip Deka> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 16> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 22:32:39 +0530> > From: 'Nayanjyoti Medhi' <nayanjyoti.medhi at gmail.com>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of> > India> >To: 'A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the> > world' <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID:> > <eda7ef120711290902h1beaa9abs8c440d54a596bad8 at mail.gmail.com>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8> >> >If I may,> >1. Maybe the media could have given the tapes to the police so that they> >could catch the culprits (which they have done).> >2. Maybe they could have given a detailed write up instead of the photograph> >or video.> >3. Maybe they could have given the girl a piece of cloth to cover her> >modesty instead of a black strip on the photo or video (I presume they were> >Eye Witnesses).> >4. Maybe they could have resisted the hooligans and saved the girl from> >getting stripped instead of shooting pictures (If I am not wrong they did> >not shoot pictures of the person who gave the girl a piece of cloth to cover> >her modesty).> >5. Maybe they could have used their pens to condemn the incident.> >> >Uncovering the truth is of course their duty but is it not their duty to> >save a girl from getting stripped in the first place. Will they (the> >photographers) go and testify against the molestors in the court? If it is> >their duty to uncover the truth? Can you give us assurance that they will be> >present in the court to ensure punishment to the molestors? Or is it that> >their duty finishes as soon as they click with zoom lenses from safe> >distances and publish the pictures?> >> >Regards> >> >Nayanjyoti Medhi> >> >On Nov 29, 2007 8:03 PM, Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com> wrote:> >> > > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION.> > > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS> > > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ?> > >> > >> > > So what is the solution .... shove it under the carpet> > > just like our Netas were trying to do until Media> > > exposed it ?> > >> > > By your logic a rape victim should not move to> > > court/police station ! You would probably advice this> > > if your relative is a victim of such incident.> > >> > > >From what I see in this forum, people are more> > > concerned primarily because this exposure caused a> > > negative publicity to Assam and NOT because they are> > > concerned about the modesty of the woman. This is> > > apparent from many questioning why media exposed it> > > for Assam and never do it for other places .> > >> > > May I know why you are shouting ...... or is it just> > > that the CAPS lock in your keyboard is stuck :)> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >>Dear Mr Chakraborty> > >> > > >> HIDING THE FACE OF THE WOMAN IS NOT THE SOLUTION.> > > >>WILL YOU AGREE TO SUCH A SOLUTION IF THAT HAPPENS> > > >>TO YOUR OWN SISTER OR MOTHER OR ANY RELATIVE ?> > >> > > >> Regards> > > >> Muktikam Phukan> > >> > > >>Krishnendu Chakraborty <krish_gau at yahoo.com>> > > wrote:> > > >> Unless I am mistaken, ALL media reports blurred> > > the> > > face of the lady to hide identity. Exposing such> > > henious acts are not a Assam/India media phenomenon> > > but is done by media all over world.> > >> > >> > > What is the allegation against media ---> > >> > > 1) That they exposed a crime> > >> > > 2) That it gave Assam a bad publicity> > >> > > 3) That the lady (whose identity is not disclosed by> > > the photograph) has been insulted> > >> > > Seeing all the posts in this forum, I suspect it is> > > number 2 above.> > >> > > But then, had media not exposed it, would there been> > > such swift action from GOA. The GOA was earlier trying> > > to cover it up as a minor incident.> > > The Assam Police already mentiond that they have> > > identified the culprits from the media footage.> > >> > > If someone can prove that what media showed is> > > false/fabricated, I am all with him in blaming media> > > but this does not seem to be the case here.> > >> > > Yes, it gave a negative publicity to Assam but that> > > was NOT because of Media's fault .... it was because> > > of our Government's fault. The incident could have> > > been controlled much earlier had the police force been> > > active.> > >> > > To dilute the situation, there are already comments by> > > some that the Adivasi's were inebriated, or that why> > > they should demand such things in Assam.> > > All set aside, there cannot be any justification to> > > such barbaric act .. period.> > >> > > BTW, does someone know what happened to Barnali rape> > > case ..... a child who was raped and murdered by some> > > Network travel employees?> > >> > >> > > >>Media always exposes such incidents be it Assam or> > > Abu Ghraib. I thought it is duty of Media.> > >> > >> > > >> TIMESNOW has not shown any footage of the stripped> > > woman but reported the news with heavy condemnation.> > > In fact Arnab >>Goswami has raised a very pertinent> > > question -> > >> > > >> 'HAS ANYONE TAKEN THE PERMISSION OF THE LADY> > > BEFORE SHOWING HER NAKED PHOTOS ? ARE WE NOT ADDING> > > FURTHER INSULT TO THE >>ALREADY INSULTED POOR WOMAN ?'> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________________________________________________________________________________> > > Be a better pen pal.> > > Text or chat with friends inside Yahoo! Mail. See how.> > > http://overview.mail.yahoo.com/> > >> > > _______________________________________________> > > assam mailing list> > > assam at assamnet.org> > > http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> > >> >> >> >> >--> >Nayanjyoti Medhi> >Advocate> >> >Chamber:> >Satya Bora Lane, Dighalipukhuri East> >Guwahati-781001, Assam> >> >> >Phone:> >+91 361 2416960> >+91 94350 43007> >> >Email:> >nayanjyoti.medhi at gmail.com> >> >> >------------------------------> >> >Message: 17> >Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 11:41:25 -0600> > From: 'Alpana B. Sarangapani' <absarangapani at hotmail.com>> >Subject: Re: [Assam] Mob strips woman protester in Guwahati - Times of> > India> >To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the> > world <assam at assamnet.org>> >Message-ID: <BLU123-W8B95A23E86C5D2DE8F854B3700 at phx.gbl>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset='Windows-1252'> >> >Isn't still the main issue be that a girl was brutally humiliated in broad daylight and that it should NEVER EVEr happen to anyone?> >> >I thought I saw a person on the video spreading his hands to protect the girl from others after she was given a jacket to cover herself up.> >> >It is a shame!!> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >?In order to make spiritual progress you must be patient like a tree and humble like a blade of grass?> >- Lakshmana> >> >> >> >_________________________________________________________________> >Share life as it happens with the new Windows Live.Download today it's FREE!> >http://www.windowslive.com/share.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_Wave2_sharelife_112007> >> >------------------------------> >> >_______________________________________________> >assam mailing list> >assam at assamnet.org> >http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org> >> >> >End of assam Digest, Vol 28, Issue 44> >*************************************> _______________________________________________> assam mailing list> assam at assamnet.org> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org>_________________________________________________________________>Tried the new MSN Messenger? 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