[Assam] [asom] Corrigendum to the Statement of BHRPC regardingClash in Guwahti

Rajen & Ajanta Barua barua25 at hotmail.com
Sun Dec 2 09:48:59 PST 2007


>We won't seek it from those we have no respect for, or show no 
>credibility, would we?

>So why even dignify the piece of trash  seeking an apology?

Chandan:
I don't want to argue with you or dispute of any kind. But I think what you are saying is pureluy 'Assamese'  Hobo Diok type talk which is one of our problems and for which the Assamese people have suffered much. People forget things. We don't care whether they have creditability or not. As long as they have a 'face' in the North East, they count and count very much. We donot ignore anybody. We take the western philosophy of Crime and Punishment.
Thanks
Rajen


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around theworld" <assam at assamnet.org>
Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 9:32 AM
Subject: Re: [Assam] [asom] Corrigendum to the Statement of BHRPC regardingClash in Guwahti


> Rajen:
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> At 8:56 AM -0600 12/2/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
>>Chandan:
>>We don't have to so magnanimous as to let someone go free who try to create
>>problems for the North East in the name o Human Rights Protection Committee.
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> I won't dispute the notion above.
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> But think about WHO we seek apologies from when we are offended? They 
> would be people who would have a degree of respectability or 
> credibility.
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> We won't seek it from those we have no respect for, or show no 
> credibility, would we?
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> So why even dignify the piece of trash  seeking an apology?
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>>The Assamese speaking people, need a public apology from BHRPC. A public
>>apology means publishing the apology in all the Newspapers in Assam as a
>>minimum.
>>Otherise, we may use RTI or PIL or whatever law we can use against BHRPC.
>>I still donot understand how and why the name of the Assamese speaking
>>people are involved in the incident.
>>Rajen Barua
>>
>>----- Original Message -----
>>From: "Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>To: "A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around theworld"
>><assam at assamnet.org>
>>Sent: Sunday, December 02, 2007 7:48 AM
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] [asom] Corrigendum to the Statement of BHRPC
>>regardingClash in Guwahti
>>
>>
>>>  Well said.
>>>
>>>  I will go a step farther. This so-called report from BHRPC had little
>>>  to do with human rights protection of Adivasis or anybody else's and
>>>  was all about attempting to beat up on Assamese speakers. While I
>>>  understand the Barak Valley people's grudge against Assamese language
>>>  speaking people, to use the Adivasi riot and counter riot at Guwahati
>>>  to give vent to its grievances had to be the brainchild of people who
>>>  obviously don't have much.
>>>
>>>  Therefore, personally, I would not even care to seek an apology.
>>>  Because it was so mindless a piece to begin with.
>>>
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>>>
>>>  At 1:12 AM -0600 12/2/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
>>>>   > "These speak a volume of the attitude of some of the Assamese people
>>>>>   towards the tribals which also can explain the barbarity committed
>>>>>   against the Adibasis."
>>>>
>>>>Dear Mr Laskar:
>>>>The above sentence is not acceptable to the Assamese people.
>>>>Probably you know that the term 'Assamese' is a linguistic term, it
>>>>is not  a racial term.
>>>>Thus when you say, Assamese people, it actually means the Assamese
>>>>speaking people.
>>>>In the group of people who were involved in the violence, how do you
>>>>know they were ALL Assamese speaking people? Without knowing, why
>>>>you are picking only the Assamese speaking people? We think there
>>>>were Bengali as well as Hindi speaking people also in the group.
>>>>Also please note that these Adibasis were also Assamese speaking people.
>>>>Overall your above sentence is not only objectionable but also self
>>>>contradictory and grossly biased towrds the Assamese speaking people
>>>>for no reason.
>>>>This biasness speaks volumes for lack of creditability for a Human
>>>>Rights Protection Commitee such as yours.
>>>>We hope you on behalf of Barak Human Rights Protection Committee,
>>>>would withdraw the sentence completely without further delay.
>>>>Rajen Barua.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----- Original Message -----
>>>>From: "umesh sharma" <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
>>>>To: <umesh.sh05 at post.harvard.edu>; <assamonline at yahoogroups.com>;
>>>><assam at assamnet.org>
>>>>Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 9:16 PM
>>>>Subject: Re: [Assam] [asom] Corrigendum to the Statement of BHRPC
>>>>regardingClash in Guwahti
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>   Mr Laskar,
>>>>>
>>>>>   It is good to note that you have overcome your bias and blamed
>>  >>>only a section of the local people  why not go one step further in
>>>>>removing the bias and blame the very people - the few hundred (??)
>>>>>out of the millions of Assamese residents.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Umesh
>>>>>
>>>>>   umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com> wrote: That makes more sense.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Umesh
>>>>>
>>>>>   Waliulllah Ahmed Laskar <wlllhlaskar at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  >>>Dear Group Members,
>>>>>
>>>>>   The Statement posted by me in this group regarding Violence in
>>>>>   Guwahati street on 24th November, 2007 on behalf of the Barak Human
>>>>>   Rights Protection Committee, in the capacity of Special
>>>>>   Representative of the organisation to the city, contained a sentence
>>>>>   to which our many friends in the group raised onjections. The
>>>>>   sentence was as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>   "These speak a volume of the attitude of Assamese people towards the
>>>>>   tribals which also can explain the barbarity committed against the
>>>>>   Adibasis."
>>>>>
>>>>>   Here a mistake has been committed by me inadvertently in the
>>>>>   construction of the sentence. The sentence rather should be as
>>>>>   follows:
>>>>>
>>>>>   "These speak a volume of the attitude of some of the Assamese people
>>>>>   towards the tribals which also can explain the barbarity committed
>>>>>   against the Adibasis."
>>>>>
>>>>>   I sincerely regret this mistake and apologize to all the persons who
>>>>>   have gone through this statement.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Yours
>>>>>   With Sincere Regret
>>>>>   Waliullah Ahmed Laskar
>>>>>   Special Representative to Guwahati
>>>>>   Barak Human Rights Protection Committee,
>>>>>   15, Darandha, Panjabari Road, Guwahati-781037.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Re: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3894
>>>>   >     http://groups.yahoo.com/group/assamonline/message/3879
>>>>>
>>>>>   --- "Waliulllah Ahmed Laskar" <wlllhlaskar at ...> wrote:
>>>>   >
>>>>>   Humanity Was Raped in Guwahati on 24th November, 2007
>>>>>
>>>>>   More than 20 people were killed, 3 women raped, one girl stripped
>>>>>off in the highway and paraded, about 300 thousand injured of whom
>>>>>the condition of 10 is critical and 45 persons simply disappeared
>>>>>when the demonstrators belonging to Adibasi, as some tribal
>>>>>communities--mainly Kul, Santal, Munda--who work in tea gardens are
>>>>>known here, were marching towards the state secretariat in Dispur,
>>>>>Guwahati on the fateful day of 24th November as a part of their
>>>>>programme formulated to push for the age-long demand of including
>>>>>the communities in the list of scheduled castes.In the course of
>>>>>the march while police stopped them before they reached the Last
>>>>>Gate of the MLA Hostel some of the  demonstrators turned violent
>>>>>and destroyed properties such as shops, vehicles etc. and injured
>>>>>some pedestrians. Some local residents came out to retaliate the
>>>>>violence, to take revenge and to teach the tribals a lesson. In the
>>>>>process they got wild and savage so much so that they lost every
>>>>>   sense of humanity and unleashed the brute within them. The beast
>>>>>killed many innocent persons, kicked the dead bodies with diabolic
>>>>>enjoyment, stripped many women off all cloths, raped them and it
>>>>>raped the humanity. We saw in Guwahati the wild dance of the beast.
>>>>>
>>>>>   Circumstances cry to yet another most diabolic fact that during
>>>>>the period of 4 to 5 hours of this wild dance of the beast in the
>>>>>political and administrative power center of the state no worth
>>>>>mention state presence was there. The beast danced with the tacit
>>>>>leave of the state. The state allowed the beast to finish its
>>>>>horrendous ritual by making it self absent. It is nothing but the
>>>>>naked parade of electoral  politics in its worst.
>>>>>
>>>>>   The officials of the organisation which co-ordinated the programme
>>>>>told that they did not have any intention to create a violent
>>>>>situation. They regretted the fact of committing violence by some
>>>>>of their members.
>>>>>
>>>>>   The facts which indicate clearly towards direct and indirect
>>>>>abetment of the government are:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. When the tribal groups sought permission for a meeting and a
>>>>>demonstration they were denied.
>>>>>   2. When they held the meeting and demonstration there was no
>>  >>>adequate arrangement of security forces.
>>>>>   3. After the mayhem started no forces sent to control the situation.
>>>>>   4. Government is trying desperately to show down the incident
>>>>>reducing the number of casualties in its statement,perhaps in order
>>>>>to save the perpetrators from the law.
>>>>>   5. The authorities of the medical college hospital where most of
>>  >>>the injured were admitted released many of them without proper
>>>>>treatment to show down the enormity of the mayhem,  perhaps in
>>>>>order to save the perpetrators from the law.
>>>>>   6. At first just an inquiry by an additional chief secretary was
>>>>>ordered and later a judicial inquiry overlooking callously the
>>>>>demands of CBI probe.
>>>>>   7. More cases registered against the demonstrators that against
>>>>>the local residents.
>>>>>   8. No case was registered regarding rape cases.
>>>>>
>>>>>   There some other more painful facts indicative of the callousness
>>>>>of the so-called civil society which include the attitude of the
>>>>>media in covering the incident. Most of the local media presented
>>>>>the story in such a way as if they are justifying, or at least
>>>>>making an excuse of, the brutality meted out to the demonstrators
>>>>>by making tacit statement of who-started-it-first. There are also
>>>>>allegations that doctors raped a victim girl who was brought in
>>>>>Guwahati Medical College.
>>>>>
>>>>>   These speak a volume of the attitude of Assamese people towards
>>>>>the tribals which also can explain the barbarity committed against
>>>>>the Adibasis.
>>>>>
>>>>>   The Barak Human Rights Protection Committee categorically condemns
>>>>>the violence and the mayhem. The committee demands:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. A CBI probe into the whole incident.
>>>>>   2. Compensation of 5 lakhs to the family of deceased, 2 lakh to
>>>>>the victim of rape, 1 lakh to the victim of abuse 50 thousand to
>>>>>the severely injured, 25 thousand to the other injured and adequate
>>>>>compensation to those whose properties were destroyed.
>>>>   >
>>>>>   The Barak Human Rights Committee urges the Assam State Human
>>>>>Rights Commission to register a suo-moto case against the police
>>>>>and other government officials for whose negligence in duty made
>>>>>the mayhem possible.
>>>>>
>>>>>   The Committee requests all people to maintain peace and harmony.
>>>>>
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