[Assam] assam Digest, Vol 29, Issue 12

Chan Mahanta cmahanta at charter.net
Tue Dec 11 06:05:17 PST 2007


Thanks Dileep.

Suddenly began to remember all these names of books and authors I 
read decades ago, but could not remember the details, which have 
gotten  got lost in a muddle of overlapping and fading bits and 
pieces of a distant past.

cm









At 1:42 PM +0000 12/11/07, dileep  chandan wrote:
>DAAWAR  AARU  NAI-by Jogesh Das is an original novel,-not 
>translated.This  is a story of Uppar Assam(Jorhat/Golaghat) after 
>the 2nd world war and the impact on the society  
>
>
>
>Dileep Chandan
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>>     1. Re: A Question (kamal deka)
>>     2. Columbia University  honours  tennis coach Bidyut Goswami
>>        (Buljit Buragohain)
>>     3. Novel on Gauhati University by Urmila Doley (Buljit Buragohain)
>>     4. Re: A Question (Chan Mahanta)
>>     5. Re: A Question (uttam borthakur)
>>     6. Re: A Question (uttam borthakur)
>>     7. Business houses eyeing candidates from NE(The Assam Tribune,
>>        10.12.2007) (Buljit Buragohain)
>>     8. Re: assam Digest, Vol 29, Issue 11/  A QUESTION?
>>        (DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS)
>>     9. Better than my neighbor - study abroad (umesh sharma)
>>    10. NE documentaries selected for MIFF(The Assam Tribune,
>>        10.12.2007) (Buljit Buragohain)
>>    11. Re: A Question (Chan Mahanta)
>>    12. Re: assam Digest, Vol 29, Issue 11/  A QUESTION? (Chan Mahanta)
>>    13. [Iepgraduates-list] Latest PISA results : USA overall scroe
>>        in science and math (umesh sharma)
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 14:42:23 -0600
>>  From: "kamal deka" <kjit.deka at gmail.com>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
>>Message-ID:
>>	<7b43066c0712091242w774208fbnbb440c9697f4c8ac at mail.gmail.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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>>Chandanda,
>>
>>your query in regard to the Oxomiya book " Mati aru Manuh " reminds me of a
>>Oxomiya kobita , I read during my early school years.I don't know the name
>>of the poet nor do I remember all the stanzas of the same.I vaguely remember
>>a few lines , which are as follows:
>>" MATIR MANUH MATIT MILIBO
>>DHUN PES KEO KORISE LAGIBO
>>MISA GORBO MISA OBHIMAN
>>MORILEY XOKOLU XOMAN
>>SMOXANEI JOLONTO PROMAN"
>>
>>KJD
>>
>>
>>On 12/9/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net > wrote:
>>  >
>>  > You are right Rajen-- the author WAS Jogesh Das. Now I remember.
>>  >
>>  > But I never read The Good Earth by Pearl S Buck. I guess that is why
>>  > could not make the connection. I  will have to look up The Good Earth
>>  > synopsis now, if not reads it some day.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  > At 10:26 AM -0600 12/9/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
>>  > >Chandan
>>  > >If I remeber, the novel Mati aru Manuh by Jogesh Das (?) may be based on
>>  > the
>>  > >novel Good Earth by Pers Buck, because I rembered the similarity when
>>  > >reading the novel.
>>  > >Rajen
>>  > >----- Original Message -----
>>  > >From: "Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
>  > > >To: < w.saleh at indiawijzer.nl>; "A Mailing list for people interested in
>>  > Assam
>>  > >from around theworld" < assam at assamnet.org>
>>  > >Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:35 AM
>>  > >Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  > >
>>  > >
>>  > >>  WK:
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  No, it is not How Much Land Does a Man Need -- we knew that story
>>  > >>  well from our matriculation syllabus as well.
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  I remember the title Maati Aaru Manuh well. But I could be mixed up
>  > > >>  about the names of the main characters. My very vague recollection is
>>  > >>  that the story dealt with pioneering characters in a new or frontier
>>  > >>  land.
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  s
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>
>>  > >>  At 10:02 AM +0100 12/9/07, W.Saleh wrote:
>>  > >>>How Much Land Does a Man Need?
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>It is a short story by Leo Tolstoy about a man called Pahom who in his
>>  > >>>lust
>>  > >>>for land, sacrifices everything, including his own life. Years ago this
>>  > >>>short story was included in the English syllabus of our Matriculation
>>  > >>>examination.
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>I don't know if an Assamese translation "Maati aaru Manuh" refers to
>>  > the
>>  > >>>same story. The name of the main character is different.
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>Encyclopaedia of Indian literature vol. 2, page 1434 mentions about the
>>  >
>>  > >>>work
>>  > >>>of Lila Gogoi including the publication of 1963 - Srimantar Mati aru
>>  > Manuh
>>  > >>>(a study of the life and culture of the tribes of the Arunachal
>>  > Pradesh).
>>  > >>>This is not the book which Chandan means.
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>Wahid da
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>  > >>>Van: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto: assam-bounces at assamnet.org]
>>  > Namens
>>  > >>>uttam borthakur
>>  > >>>Verzonden: zondag 9 december 2007 8:57
>>  > >>>Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>  > world
>>  > >>>CC: shantanunandan sharma; shantanu sharma; shantanu sharma
>>  > >>>Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>Dear Manoj
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>    I seem to remember the book and its get up. It had a hard bound,
>>  > turbid
>>  > >>>  in
>>  > >>>its colour and had some sort of figure in the cover. I too suspect as
>>  > you
>>  > >>>do
>>  > >>>to be that of Tolstoy. My mother seconds me. May be the original title
>>  > by
>>  > >>>Tolstoy was different. Some people told me that they will look up. Has
>>  > >>>Chandan Da wagered some where:-)?
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>Manoj Das <dasmk2k at gmail.com > wrote:
>>  > >>>    ok...i am forwarding this mail to shantanu nandan sharma..his
>>  > >>>  grandfather
>>  > >>>may know..
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>tc
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>On Dec 8, 2007 8:57 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  > >>>
>>  > >>>>   I am not sure it was Tolstoy Manoj. I looked up Tolstoy's works and
>>  >
>>  > >>>>   did not ring a bell. Must be some other great author.
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>
>>  > >>>>   At 10:03 AM +0530 12/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:
>>  > >>>>   >is it by leo tolstoy?
>>  > >>>>   >
>>  > >>>>   >On Dec 8, 2007 8:54 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  > >>>>   >
>>  > >>>>   >> Way back when I was in Class VI or VII, I read an Assamese
>>  > >>>>   >> translation of a novel entitled Maati aaru Manuh. If I am not
>>  > >>>>   >> mistaken, the two principal characters in the novel were Isaac
>>  > and
>>  > >>>>   >> Einaar ( or Inaar) or something like that. Has anyone read it?
>>  > If so
>>  > >>>>   >> who wrote the original and who was the translator? I am curious
>>  > to
>>  > >>>>   >> all heck, now that I can't remember the details. BTW, it was a
>>  > thick
>>  > >>>>   >> book.
>>  > >>>>   >>
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>>Message: 2
>>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:45:56 +0000 (GMT)
>>  From: Buljit Buragohain <buluassam at yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: [Assam] Columbia University  honours  tennis coach Bidyut
>>	Goswami
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
>>Message-ID: <348109.15466.qm at web8601.mail.in.yahoo.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>>You can read the Asomiya Pratidin's news about Columbia University 
>>honours  tennis coach Bidyut Goswami from the below link :
>>
>>
>>    http://goodnews.bihu.in/1887/
>>
>>
>>    And News from The Assam Tribune:
>>
>>    http://www.assamtribune.com/scripts/details.asp?id=nov2507/Sports2
>>
>>
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>>Message: 3
>>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 23:37:44 +0000 (GMT)
>>  From: Buljit Buragohain <buluassam at yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: [Assam] Novel on Gauhati University by Urmila Doley
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
>>Message-ID: <596295.41922.qm at web8603.mail.in.yahoo.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>>News  on Novel  "Gauhati University (Jalukbarit Abuku Prem Aru 
>>Preronare)" by Urmila Doley (Dhemaji).
>>
>>http://goodnews.bihu.in/1888/
>>
>>
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>>Message: 4
>>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 19:39:22 -0600
>>  From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>	world	<assam at assamnet.org>
>>Message-ID: <a06240809c38248e88526@[192.168.1.104]>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed"
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>>K
>>
>>
>>Very apt indeed. Never came across it myself.  Very similar to
>>Dhulikona Moi by the late Chandradhar Barua.
>>
>>
>>c-da
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 2:42 PM -0600 12/9/07, kamal deka wrote:
>>  >Chandanda,
>>  >
>>  >your query in regard to the Oxomiya book " Mati aru Manuh " reminds me of a
>>  >Oxomiya kobita , I read during my early school years.I don't know the name
>>  >of the poet nor do I remember all the stanzas of the same.I 
>>vaguely remember
>>  >a few lines , which are as follows:
>>  >" MATIR MANUH MATIT MILIBO
>>  >DHUN PES KEO KORISE LAGIBO
>>  >MISA GORBO MISA OBHIMAN
>>  >MORILEY XOKOLU XOMAN
>>  >SMOXANEI JOLONTO PROMAN"
>>  >
>>  >KJD
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >On 12/9/07, Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net > wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >>  You are right Rajen-- the author WAS Jogesh Das. Now I remember.
>>  >>
>>  >>  But I never read The Good Earth by Pearl S Buck. I guess that is why
>>  >>  could not make the connection. I  will have to look up The Good Earth
>>  >>  synopsis now, if not reads it some day.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>  > >>
>>  >>
>>  >>  At 10:26 AM -0600 12/9/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
>>  >>  >Chandan
>>  >>  >If I remeber, the novel Mati aru Manuh by Jogesh Das (?) may 
>>be based on
>>  >>  the
>>  >>  >novel Good Earth by Pers Buck, because I rembered the similarity when
>>  >>  >reading the novel.
>>  >>  >Rajen
>>  >>  >----- Original Message -----
>>  >>  >From: "Chan Mahanta" <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>  >>  >To: < w.saleh at indiawijzer.nl>; "A Mailing list for people interested in
>>  >>  Assam
>  > >>  >from around theworld" < assam at assamnet.org>
>>  >>  >Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:35 AM
>>  >>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >
>>  >>  >>  WK:
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  No, it is not How Much Land Does a Man Need -- we knew that story
>>  >>  >>  well from our matriculation syllabus as well.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  I remember the title Maati Aaru Manuh well. But I could be mixed up
>>  >>  >>  about the names of the main characters. My very vague 
>>recollection is
>>  >>  >>  that the story dealt with pioneering characters in a new or frontier
>>  >>  >>  land.
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  s
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>
>>  >>  >>  At 10:02 AM +0100 12/9/07, W.Saleh wrote:
>>  >>  >>>How Much Land Does a Man Need?
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>It is a short story by Leo Tolstoy about a man called Pahom 
>>who in his
>>  >>  >>>lust
>>  >>  >>>for land, sacrifices everything, including his own life. 
>>Years ago this
>>  >>  >>>short story was included in the English syllabus of our Matriculation
>>  >>  >>>examination.
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>I don't know if an Assamese translation "Maati aaru Manuh" refers to
>>  >>  the
>>  >>  >>>same story. The name of the main character is different.
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>Encyclopaedia of Indian literature vol. 2, page 1434 
>>mentions about the
>>  >>
>>  >>  >>>work
>>  >>  >>>of Lila Gogoi including the publication of 1963 - Srimantar Mati aru
>>  >>  Manuh
>>  >>  >>>(a study of the life and culture of the tribes of the Arunachal
>>  >>  Pradesh).
>>  >>  >>>This is not the book which Chandan means.
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>Wahid da
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>  >>  >>>Van: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto: assam-bounces at assamnet.org]
>>  >>  Namens
>>  >>  >>>uttam borthakur
>>  >>  >>>Verzonden: zondag 9 december 2007 8:57
>>  >>  >>>Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>  >>  world
>>  >>  >>>CC: shantanunandan sharma; shantanu sharma; shantanu sharma
>>  >>  >>>Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>Dear Manoj
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>    I seem to remember the book and its get up. It had a hard bound,
>>  >>  turbid
>>  >>  >>>  in
>>  >>  >>>its colour and had some sort of figure in the cover. I too suspect as
>>  >>  you
>>  >>  >>>do
>>  >>  >>>to be that of Tolstoy. My mother seconds me. May be the 
>>original title
>>  >>  by
>>  >>  >>>Tolstoy was different. Some people told me that they will 
>>look up. Has
>>  >>  >>>Chandan Da wagered some where:-)?
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>Manoj Das <dasmk2k at gmail.com > wrote:
>>  >>  >>>    ok...i am forwarding this mail to shantanu nandan sharma..his
>>  >>  >>>  grandfather
>>  >>  >>>may know..
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>tc
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>On Dec 8, 2007 8:57 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>>   I am not sure it was Tolstoy Manoj. I looked up 
>>Tolstoy's works and
>>  >>
>>  >>  >>>>   did not ring a bell. Must be some other great author.
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >  > >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>
>>  >>  >>>>   At 10:03 AM +0530 12/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:
>>  >>  >>>>   >is it by leo tolstoy?
>>  >>  >>>>   >
>>  >>  >>>>   >On Dec 8, 2007 8:54 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >>  >>>>   >
>>  >>  >>>>   >> Way back when I was in Class VI or VII, I read an Assamese
>>  >>  >>>>   >> translation of a novel entitled Maati aaru Manuh. If I am not
>>  >>  >>>>   >> mistaken, the two principal characters in the novel were Isaac
>>  >>  and
>>  >>  >>>>   >> Einaar ( or Inaar) or something like that. Has anyone read it?
>>  >>  If so
>>  >>  >>>>   >> who wrote the original and who was the translator? I 
>>am curious
>>  >>  to
>>  >>  >>>>   >> all heck, now that I can't remember the details. BTW, it was a
>  > >>  thick
>>  >>  >>>>   >> book.
>>  >>  >>>>   >>
>>  >>  >>>>   >> _______________________________________________
>>  >>  >>>>   >> assam mailing list
>>  >>  >>>>   >> assam at assamnet.org
>>  >>  >>>>   >> http://assamnet.org/mailman/listinfo/assam_assamnet.org
>>  >>  >>>>   >>
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>  > >>  >  >>>
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>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>Uttam Kumar Borthakur
>>  >>  >>>
>>  >>  >>>
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>>Message: 5
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 02:50:49 +0000 (GMT)
>>  From: uttam borthakur <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>	world	<assam at assamnet.org>
>>Message-ID: <491043.11156.qm at web8701.mail.in.yahoo.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
>>
>>We are on the job.
>>
>>Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:  No wagers Uttam. Just a 
>>curiosity arising out of a flicker of ancient
>>memory, perhaps accidentally turned over in the course of a routine
>>disk optimization procedure :-).
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 7:57 AM +0000 12/9/07, uttam borthakur wrote:
>>  >Dear Manoj
>>  >
>>  > I seem to remember the book and its get up. It had a hard bound,
>>  >turbid in its colour and had some sort of figure in the cover. I too
>>  >suspect as you do to be that of Tolstoy. My mother seconds me. May
>>  >be the original title by Tolstoy was different. Some people told me
>>  >that they will look up. Has Chandan Da wagered some where:-)?
>>  >
>>  >Manoj Das wrote:
>>  > ok...i am forwarding this mail to shantanu nandan sharma..his grandfather
>>  >may know..
>>  >
>>  >tc
>>  >
>>  >On Dec 8, 2007 8:57 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >
>>  >> I am not sure it was Tolstoy Manoj. I looked up Tolstoy's works and
>>  >> did not ring a bell. Must be some other great author.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> At 10:03 AM +0530 12/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:
>>  >> >is it by leo tolstoy?
>>  >> >
>>  >> >On Dec 8, 2007 8:54 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >> >
>>  >> >> Way back when I was in Class VI or VII, I read an Assamese
>>  >> >> translation of a novel entitled Maati aaru Manuh. If I am not
>>  >> >> mistaken, the two principal characters in the novel were Isaac and
>>  >> >> Einaar ( or Inaar) or something like that. Has anyone read it? If so
>>  >> >> who wrote the original and who was the translator? I am curious to
>  > >> >> all heck, now that I can't remember the details. BTW, it was a thick
>>  >> >> book.
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>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:29:57 +0000 (GMT)
>>  From: uttam borthakur <uttamborthakur at yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>	world	<assam at assamnet.org>
>>Message-ID: <283089.68937.qm at web8708.mail.in.yahoo.com>
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>>Chandan Da
>>
>>    Matir Manooh is by Hitesh Deka, as confirmed by Paresh Malakar of Anwesha.
>>    Mati Aru Manooh to my belief is a translated piece and a Russian 
>>one at that. Like you, I have not read Pearl S Buck's Good Earth 
>>and there the characters' names are not what you say. And I am sure 
>>we did not have PSB's translated work at our place, only the 
>>English ones. Paresh says he'll trace the book if it was there in 
>>the first place.
>>
>>Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>    K
>>
>>
>>Very apt indeed. Never came across it myself. Very similar to
>>Dhulikona Moi by the late Chandradhar Barua.
>>
>>
>>c-da
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 2:42 PM -0600 12/9/07, kamal deka wrote:
>>  >Chandanda,
>>  >
>>  >your query in regard to the Oxomiya book " Mati aru Manuh " reminds me of a
>>  >Oxomiya kobita , I read during my early school years.I don't know the name
>>  >of the poet nor do I remember all the stanzas of the same.I 
>>vaguely remember
>>  >a few lines , which are as follows:
>>  >" MATIR MANUH MATIT MILIBO
>>  >DHUN PES KEO KORISE LAGIBO
>>  >MISA GORBO MISA OBHIMAN
>>  >MORILEY XOKOLU XOMAN
>>  >SMOXANEI JOLONTO PROMAN"
>>  >
>>  >KJD
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >On 12/9/07, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >>
>>  >> You are right Rajen-- the author WAS Jogesh Das. Now I remember.
>>  >>
>>  >> But I never read The Good Earth by Pearl S Buck. I guess that is why
>>  >> could not make the connection. I will have to look up The Good Earth
>>  >> synopsis now, if not reads it some day.
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >> At 10:26 AM -0600 12/9/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
>>  >> >Chandan
>>  >> >If I remeber, the novel Mati aru Manuh by Jogesh Das (?) may be based on
>>  >> the
>>  >> >novel Good Earth by Pers Buck, because I rembered the similarity when
>>  >> >reading the novel.
>>  >> >Rajen
>>  >> >----- Original Message -----
>>  >> >From: "Chan Mahanta"
>>  >> >To: < w.saleh at indiawijzer.nl>; "A Mailing list for people interested in
>>  >> Assam
>>  >> >from around theworld" < assam at assamnet.org>
>>  >> >Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:35 AM
>>  >> >Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  >> >
>>  >> >
>>  >> >> WK:
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> No, it is not How Much Land Does a Man Need -- we knew that story
>>  >> >> well from our matriculation syllabus as well.
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> I remember the title Maati Aaru Manuh well. But I could be mixed up
>>  >> >> about the names of the main characters. My very vague recollection is
>>  >> >> that the story dealt with pioneering characters in a new or frontier
>  > >> >> land.
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> s
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >>
>>  >> >> At 10:02 AM +0100 12/9/07, W.Saleh wrote:
>>  >> >>>How Much Land Does a Man Need?
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>It is a short story by Leo Tolstoy about a man called Pahom who in his
>>  >> >>>lust
>>  >> >>>for land, sacrifices everything, including his own life. 
>>Years ago this
>>  >> >>>short story was included in the English syllabus of our Matriculation
>  > >> >>>examination.
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>I don't know if an Assamese translation "Maati aaru Manuh" refers to
>>  >> the
>>  >> >>>same story. The name of the main character is different.
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>Encyclopaedia of Indian literature vol. 2, page 1434 
>>mentions about the
>>  >>
>>  >> >>>work
>>  >> >>>of Lila Gogoi including the publication of 1963 - Srimantar Mati aru
>>  >> Manuh
>>  >> >>>(a study of the life and culture of the tribes of the Arunachal
>>  >> Pradesh).
>>  >> >>>This is not the book which Chandan means.
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>Wahid da
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>  >> >>>Van: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto: assam-bounces at assamnet.org]
>>  >> Namens
>>  >> >>>uttam borthakur
>>  >> >>>Verzonden: zondag 9 december 2007 8:57
>>  >> >>>Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>  >> world
>>  >> >>>CC: shantanunandan sharma; shantanu sharma; shantanu sharma
>>  >> >>>Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>Dear Manoj
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>> I seem to remember the book and its get up. It had a hard bound,
>>  >> turbid
>>  >> >>> in
>>  >> >>>its colour and had some sort of figure in the cover. I too suspect as
>>  >> you
>>  >> >>>do
>>  >> >>>to be that of Tolstoy. My mother seconds me. May be the original title
>>  >> by
>>  >> >>>Tolstoy was different. Some people told me that they will look up. Has
>>  >> >>>Chandan Da wagered some where:-)?
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>Manoj Das wrote:
>>  >> >>> ok...i am forwarding this mail to shantanu nandan sharma..his
>>  >> >>> grandfather
>>  >> >>>may know..
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>tc
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>On Dec 8, 2007 8:57 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >> >>>
>>  >> >>>> I am not sure it was Tolstoy Manoj. I looked up Tolstoy's works and
>>  >>
>>  >> >>>> did not ring a bell. Must be some other great author.
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  > > >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>>
>>  >> >>>> At 10:03 AM +0530 12/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:
>>  >> >>>> >is it by leo tolstoy?
>>  >> >>>> >
>>  >> >>>> >On Dec 8, 2007 8:54 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >> >>>> >
>>  >> >>>> >> Way back when I was in Class VI or VII, I read an Assamese
>>  >> >>>> >> translation of a novel entitled Maati aaru Manuh. If I am not
>>  >> >>>> >> mistaken, the two principal characters in the novel were Isaac
>>  >> and
>>  >> >>>> >> Einaar ( or Inaar) or something like that. Has anyone read it?
>>  >> If so
>>  >> >>>> >> who wrote the original and who was the translator? I am curious
>>  >> to
>>  >> >>>> >> all heck, now that I can't remember the details. BTW, it was a
>>  >> thick
>>  >> >>>> >> book.
>>  >> >>>> >>
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>>Message: 7
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 04:33:45 +0000 (GMT)
>>  From: Buljit Buragohain <buluassam at yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: [Assam] Business houses eyeing candidates from NE(The Assam
>>	Tribune,	10.12.2007)
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
>>Message-ID: <102652.61341.qm at web8606.mail.in.yahoo.com>
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>>                Business houses eyeing candidates from NE
>>By A City Reporter
>>   GUWAHATI, Dec 9 ? The dream of north-eastern students to work in 
>>big conglomerates has started turning into a reality.
>>
>>Whereas students of the region are getting maximum benefits and 
>>opportunities through association with the brand names, the firms 
>>too are queuing up in search of skilled and stable manpower from 
>>the region.
>>
>>?Workforce from the region and the State managed to come in the 
>>good books of the management and IT companies by dint of their 
>>commitment and a stable pattern of working in comparison to the 
>>workforce from other parts of the country,? feels Pratul Chandra 
>>Kalita, Institute Coordinator of the North East Professional 
>>Institutes Forum (NEPIF).
>>
>>The NEPIF is a joint forum of 11 premier engineering and management 
>>institutes of North East India endorsed by the institute 
>>authorities. The forum has already organized six common placement 
>>events for its member institutes, from where organisations like 
>>ICICI Bank, Genpact, Satyam, Colgate Palmolive, Kanbay (Capgemini) 
>>TCS and TVS Motors have picked up 126 of the students.
>>
>>According to an estimate, the State requires raising its capacity 
>>by 17 times over the existing infrastructure in degree engineering 
>>level and five times over the existing capacity in diploma 
>>engineering level to be at par with other States of the country. 
>>However, despite this, the students from this region have managed 
>>to have a sizeable presence in the BPO sector of the country.
>>
>>The companies that have planned a visit in the State in the coming 
>>days are TCS, Infosys Technologies, Infosys BPO, Wipro 
>>Technologies, First Source (Formerly known as ICICI one Source), 
>>IBM Daksh Bangalore and IBM Daksh, Gurgaon.
>>
>>Recently the Tata Consultancy Services (TCS) recruited six students 
>>from Guwahati, Dibrugarh and Nalbari, and the next event was held 
>>on December 3 at the Department of Chemistry, Cotton College by IBM 
>>Daksh, Banglore for graduates in any discipline passing out in 
>>2008. Infosys Technologies Limited and Infosys BPO will recruit 
>>students at the same venue it was learnt.
>>
>>?They have profiles for various domains such as Banking, Insurance, 
>>Telecom, Procurement, Customer service, Financial & Accounting, 
>>Knowledge Service, HR Operations, Life Sciences & Order 
>>Management,? he added.
>>
>>?Our other placement events will take place on December 10 and 11. 
>>We have also initiated talks with some of the firms like Vodafone 
>>and Kotak but their visit is still to be finalised,? added Kalita.
>  >
>>Recently, Wipro BPO, the BPO arm of global IT giant Wipro, and 
>>Gauhati University (GU) organized a mega job fair for students of 
>>the university. In this first ever partnership at this scale in the 
>>north-eastern part of the country, Wipro selected around 42 
>>students for providing job in BPO.
>>
>>Kandarpa Kumar Sarma, training and placement officer, GU said, 
>>?Nearly 42 students are selected by Wipro during the fair. Those 
>>selected are graduates from different colleges under the GU.?
>  >
>>Though the State and the region can not boast of the best quality 
>>infrastructure in its education sector, the number of students 
>>joining the job after getting through the selection procedure is 
>>higher than many of the leading States of the country.
>>
>>This credibility and the dedication of the North-east work force is 
>>sure to draw the national and multinational companies for the 
>>recruitment drive to the region in future,? added Kalita.
>>(The Assam Tribune,10.12.2007)
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>>Message: 8
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 05:19:44 +0000 (GMT)
>>  From: DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS <biku006 at yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 29, Issue 11/  A QUESTION?
>>To: Assamnet <assam at assamnet.org>, w.saleh at indiawijzer.nl,	Umesh
>>	Sharmah <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
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>>
>>I feel lot of hammering all over.... but the book was written by 
>>none other than Sri Hitesh Deka. The famous Assamese novel  MATI 
>>AROO MANUH.
>>
>>    It was never a translated book, although many books in assamese 
>>belongs to Leo tolstoy and Maxim Gorky with sweet translated 
>>language. Most of the stories being russian origin got same taste, 
>>even I too sometimes get confused.
>>    OPOJA NATIR PARAX  is written by Amarendra Barman from a big 
>>story of Maxim Gorky.
>>    Anyway good efforts by all.
>>
>>
>>
>>Dr.Bikash Kumar Das
>>Bangalore
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>>Message: 9
>>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2007 22:37:43 -0800 (PST)
>>  From: umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: [Assam] Better than my neighbor - study abroad
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
>>Message-ID: <142597.55919.qm at web60415.mail.yahoo.com>
>>Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
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>>Hi,
>>
>>I had been trying to get US internship for a student of mine for 
>>2008. That was not possible somehow but it seems it has enthused a 
>>schoolmate of hers to come to US for Masters in IT/Computer Science 
>>starting in 2008 (Spring or Fall semester). The interesting part is 
>>that they both stay in the same apartment complex - atleast they 
>>did till other one went to IIT. As someone has said : one learns 
>>from the neighbors or Neighbor's envy Owners pride -as an Advt 
>>jingle said once.
>>
>>http://www.wikimapia.org/#lat=26.950468&lon=75.77454&z=18&l=0&m=a&v=2
>>
>>This is their apartment complex - Khandelwal  Towers
>>
>>Competition is good, atleast healthy one??
>>
>>Umesh
>>
>>
>>Umesh Sharma
>>
>>Washington D.C.
>>
>>1-202-215-4328 [Cell]
>>
>>Ed.M. - International Education Policy
>>Harvard Graduate School of Education,
>>Harvard University,
>>Class of 2005
>>
>>http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)
>>
>>http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)
>>
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>>
>>www.gse.harvard.edu/iep  (where the above 2 are used )
>>http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/
>>
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>>http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/
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>>Message: 10
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 07:50:38 +0000 (GMT)
>>  From: Buljit Buragohain <buluassam at yahoo.co.in>
>>Subject: [Assam] NE documentaries selected for MIFF(The Assam Tribune,
>>	10.12.2007)
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
>>Message-ID: <368817.19817.qm at web8605.mail.in.yahoo.com>
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>>5 NE documentaries selected for MIFF
>>By Partha Pratim Hazarika
>>   GUWAHATI, Dec 9 ? Five documentary films made by directors 
>>hailing from the North-East India have been selected for the Indian 
>>Competitive Section of the highly-prestigious Mumbai International 
>>Film Festival (MIFF) to be held from February 3 to 9 next year. 
>>These films are ? Children of the River: The Xihus of Assam, 
>>directed by filmmaker Maulee Senapati, Freedom at The Edge, 
>>directed by Aneisha Sharma, The World of Montu by Ashim Dutta, 
>>Distant Rumblings by Bani Prakash Das, all from Assam, and The 
>>Story of the Eastern Protectors by Ronel Haobam from Manipur.
>  >
>>The 60-year-old MIFF, organised every two years by the Film 
>>Division, Government of India, is considered one of the most 
>>prominent festivals for short, documentary and animation films in 
>>Asia.
>>
>>Maulee?s Children of the River: The Xihus of Assam, has been 
>>produced and scripted by noted Assamese journalist and writer 
>>Sanjoy Hazarika under the banner of Mimesha Productions.
>>
>>Shot on locations along the Brahmaputra river, the film looks at 
>>how humans and dolphins have co-existed and how this relationship 
>>is breaking down in the face of economic pressure and poverty. For 
>>the first time in the region, it has captured on camera the secret 
>>process used by dolphin hunters to catch them. The film was 
>>recently screened in Guwahati and widely appreciated. It was also 
>>screened at the India International Centre, New Delhi on last month 
>>and received rave reviews.
>>
>>Freedom at the Edge, produced, scripted and directed by Aneisha 
>>Sharma, is the tragic human story of Machang Lalung, a young man 
>>from the Nelie area of central Assam, who had languished in the 
>>Tezpur Mental Hospital as an under trial prisoner for long 54 years 
>>without any trial since the year 1951.
>>
>>Ashim Dutta, who directs The World of Montu, hails from Dhemaji.
>>
>>The Indian Competitive Section will also feature New Delhi-based 
>>filmmaker Kobita Joshi?s internationally-acclaimed Tales from the 
>>Margins, a documentary about the unprecedented protest by the women 
>>activists of Manipur when they disrobed outside the paramilitary 
>>headquarters to protest the custodial killing of a young woman and 
>>the epic fast-to-death by Irom Sharmila since November 2000 
>>demanding repeal of AFSPA.
>>
>>This year?s MIFF also has a North-East connection in the form of 
>>Utpal Borpujari, the National Award-winning New Delhi-based 
>>Assamese journalist being chosen to be a member of the Critics Jury.
>>
>>
>>    (The Assam Tribune,10.12.2007)
>>
>>
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>>Message: 11
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:01:52 -0600
>>  From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>	world	<assam at assamnet.org>
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>>Thanks Uttam.
>>
>>I was confused once more when I wrote to Rajen confirming it to be
>>Jogesh Das, who probably was the author of another translated novel I
>>read about the same time " Daawor Aaru Nai"--a war story.
>>
>>It will be interesting to find out about the origins of Maati aaru Manuh.
>>
>>Incidentally, The Good Earth story did not seem to be the origin.
>>
>>c-da
>>
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>>At 4:29 AM +0000 12/10/07, uttam borthakur wrote:
>>  >Chandan Da
>>  >
>>  >   Matir Manooh is by Hitesh Deka, as confirmed by Paresh Malakar 
>>of Anwesha.
>>  >   Mati Aru Manooh to my belief is a translated piece and a Russian
>>  >one at that. Like you, I have not read Pearl S Buck's Good Earth and
>>  >there the characters' names are not what you say. And I am sure we
>>  >did not have PSB's translated work at our place, only the English
>>  >ones. Paresh says he'll trace the book if it was there in the first
>>  >place.
>>  >
>>  >Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net> wrote:
>>  >   K
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Very apt indeed. Never came across it myself. Very similar to
>>  >Dhulikona Moi by the late Chandradhar Barua.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >c-da
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >At 2:42 PM -0600 12/9/07, kamal deka wrote:
>>  >>Chandanda,
>>  >>
>>  >>your query in regard to the Oxomiya book " Mati aru Manuh " 
>>reminds me of a
>>  >>Oxomiya kobita , I read during my early school years.I don't know the name
>>  >>of the poet nor do I remember all the stanzas of the same.I 
>>vaguely remember
>>  >>a few lines , which are as follows:
>>  >>" MATIR MANUH MATIT MILIBO
>>  >>DHUN PES KEO KORISE LAGIBO
>>  >>MISA GORBO MISA OBHIMAN
>>  >>MORILEY XOKOLU XOMAN
>>  >>SMOXANEI JOLONTO PROMAN"
>>  >>
>>  >>KJD
>>  >>
>>  >>
>>  >>On 12/9/07, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  You are right Rajen-- the author WAS Jogesh Das. Now I remember.
>  > >>>
>>  >>>  But I never read The Good Earth by Pearl S Buck. I guess that is why
>>  >>>  could not make the connection. I will have to look up The Good Earth
>>  >>>  synopsis now, if not reads it some day.
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  At 10:26 AM -0600 12/9/07, Rajen & Ajanta Barua wrote:
>>  >>>  >Chandan
>>  >>>  >If I remeber, the novel Mati aru Manuh by Jogesh Das (?) may 
>>be based on
>>  >>>  the
>>  >>>  >novel Good Earth by Pers Buck, because I rembered the similarity when
>>  >>>  >reading the novel.
>>  >>>  >Rajen
>>  >>>  >----- Original Message -----
>>  >>>  >From: "Chan Mahanta"
>>  >>>  >To: < w.saleh at indiawijzer.nl>; "A Mailing list for people 
>>interested in
>>  >>>  Assam
>>  >>>  >from around theworld" < assam at assamnet.org>
>>  >>>  >Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2007 8:35 AM
>>  >>>  >Subject: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >
>>  >>>  >> WK:
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >> No, it is not How Much Land Does a Man Need -- we knew that story
>>  >>>  >> well from our matriculation syllabus as well.
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >> I remember the title Maati Aaru Manuh well. But I could be mixed up
>>  >>>  >> about the names of the main characters. My very vague 
>>recollection is
>>  >>>  >> that the story dealt with pioneering characters in a new or frontier
>>  >>>  >> land.
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >> s
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >>
>>  >>>  >> At 10:02 AM +0100 12/9/07, W.Saleh wrote:
>>  >>>  >>>How Much Land Does a Man Need?
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>It is a short story by Leo Tolstoy about a man called 
>>Pahom who in his
>>  >>>  >>>lust
>>  >>>  >>>for land, sacrifices everything, including his own life. 
>>Years ago this
>>  >>>  >>>short story was included in the English syllabus of our 
>>Matriculation
>>  >>>  >>>examination.
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>I don't know if an Assamese translation "Maati aaru Manuh" refers to
>>  >>>  the
>>  >>>  >>>same story. The name of the main character is different.
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>Encyclopaedia of Indian literature vol. 2, page 1434 
>>mentions about the
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>work
>>  >>>  >>>of Lila Gogoi including the publication of 1963 - Srimantar Mati aru
>>  >>>  Manuh
>>  >  >> >>>(a study of the life and culture of the tribes of the Arunachal
>>  >>>  Pradesh).
>>  >>>  >>>This is not the book which Chandan means.
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>Wahid da
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
>>  >>>  >>>Van: assam-bounces at assamnet.org [mailto: assam-bounces at assamnet.org]
>>  >>>  Namens
>>  >>>  >>>uttam borthakur
>>  >>>  >>>Verzonden: zondag 9 december 2007 8:57
>>  >>>  >>>Aan: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>  >  >> world
>>  >>>  >>>CC: shantanunandan sharma; shantanu sharma; shantanu sharma
>>  >>>  >>>Onderwerp: Re: [Assam] A Question
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>Dear Manoj
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>> I seem to remember the book and its get up. It had a hard bound,
>>  >>>  turbid
>>  >>>  >>> in
>>  >>>  >>>its colour and had some sort of figure in the cover. I too 
>>suspect as
>>  >>>  you
>>  >>>  >>>do
>>  >>>  >>>to be that of Tolstoy. My mother seconds me. May be the 
>>original title
>>  >>>  by
>>  >>>  >>>Tolstoy was different. Some people told me that they will 
>>look up. Has
>>  >>>  >>>Chandan Da wagered some where:-)?
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>Manoj Das wrote:
>>  >>>  >>> ok...i am forwarding this mail to shantanu nandan sharma..his
>>  >>>  >>> grandfather
>>  >>>  >>>may know..
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>tc
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>On Dec 8, 2007 8:57 PM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>> I am not sure it was Tolstoy Manoj. I looked up 
>>Tolstoy's works and
>>  >>>
>>  >>>  >>>> did not ring a bell. Must be some other great author.
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>  > >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>>
>>  >>>  >>>> At 10:03 AM +0530 12/8/07, Manoj Das wrote:
>>  >>>  >>>> >is it by leo tolstoy?
>>  >>>  >>>> >
>>  >>>  >>>> >On Dec 8, 2007 8:54 AM, Chan Mahanta wrote:
>>  >>>  >>>> >
>>  >>>  >>>> >> Way back when I was in Class VI or VII, I read an Assamese
>>  >>>  >>>> >> translation of a novel entitled Maati aaru Manuh. If I am not
>>  >>>  >>>> >> mistaken, the two principal characters in the novel were Isaac
>  > >>>  and
>>  >>>  >>>> >> Einaar ( or Inaar) or something like that. Has anyone read it?
>>  >>>  If so
>>  >>>  >>>> >> who wrote the original and who was the translator? I am curious
>>  >>>  to
>>  >>>  >>>> >> all heck, now that I can't remember the details. BTW, it was a
>>  >>>  thick
>>  >>>  >>>> >> book.
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>>Message: 12
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 08:04:24 -0600
>>  From: Chan Mahanta <cmahanta at charter.net>
>>Subject: Re: [Assam] assam Digest, Vol 29, Issue 11/  A QUESTION?
>>To: A Mailing list for people interested in Assam from around the
>>	world	<assam at assamnet.org>,	w.saleh at indiawijzer.nl, Umesh Sharmah
>>	<jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
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>>
>>Thanks Dr. Das.
>>
>>Do you remember the story line of the novel and the main characters
>>by any chance?
>>
>>Obviously my feeble memory has it all mixed up among various books I
>>read in that era.
>>
>>cm
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>At 5:19 AM +0000 12/10/07, DR BIKASH KUMAR DAS wrote:
>>  >I feel lot of hammering all over.... but the book was written by
>>  >none other than Sri Hitesh Deka. The famous Assamese novel  MATI
>>  >AROO MANUH.
>>  >
>>  >   It was never a translated book, although many books in assamese
>>  >belongs to Leo tolstoy and Maxim Gorky with sweet translated
>>  >language. Most of the stories being russian origin got same taste,
>>  >even I too sometimes get confused.
>  > >   OPOJA NATIR PARAX  is written by Amarendra Barman from a big story
>>  >of Maxim Gorky.
>>  >   Anyway good efforts by all.
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >
>>  >Dr.Bikash Kumar Das
>>  >Bangalore
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>>Message: 13
>>Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 09:46:08 -0800 (PST)
>>  From: umesh sharma <jaipurschool at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: [Assam] [Iepgraduates-list] Latest PISA results : USA overall
>>	scroe	in science and math
>>To: assam at assamnet.org
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>>India  ofcourse does not participate othewise would show that only 
>>20-30 graduate from high school - that is just a rough guess. 
>>Perhaps I am being too optimistic.
>>
>>Any comments?
>>
>>Umesh
>>
>>"Fernando M. Reimers"  wrote:   Releases/11017.cfm
>>   Washington, DC, December 4, 2007 ? The results of the 2006 
>>Programme for International Student Assessments (PISA) were 
>>released this morning by the Organisation for Economic Co-operation 
>>and Development (OECD), showing that 15-year-old students in the 
>>U.S. continue to perform, in science and mathematics, at levels 
>>that demonstrate conclusively that far too many are unprepared for 
>>the global economy.
>>   The bottom line of the 2006 results is this: In relative terms, 
>>the U.S. ranked 25th among the 30 OECD member countries in 
>>mathematics, down from 23rd of 29 in the 2003 test, and 21st of 30 
>>in science this year, dropping from 19th in 2003. That places the 
>>15-year-olds in the United States below the OECD member country 
>>average in both subjects, not because students are scoring at lower 
>>levels on the tests, but because other countries, including 
>>Croatia, Estonia, and Azerbaijan are moving higher.
>>   American policies following World War II promoted and supported 
>>participation in secondary and higher education; as a result, the 
>>United States currently has the largest supply of high-level skills 
>>in its  adult labor force of any country in the world. But other 
>>countries are rapidly catching up to or overtaking us, as they 
>>focus on improving their educational systems. OECD data from 2003 
>>ranks the U.S. as 19th in high school graduation rates, below the 
>>OECD average. Other countries are sending larger proportions of 
>>their students to college, while the  U.S.' rate of students who do 
>>not complete a degree is growing. Vivien Stewart of the Asia 
>>Society notes, "As these latest PISA results show, the global 
>>talent pool is increasing. We urgently need to develop a globally 
>>oriented world-class educational system to prepare students in the 
>>U.S. with the knowledge and skills to succeed."
>>   Putting it another way, the National Governors Association's 
>>Raymond C. Scheppach points out that "Our students' performance 
>>today is the best indicator of America's global competitiveness 
>>tomorrow. The United States faces emerging challenges across the 
>>international marketplace. The countries that thrive in this new 
>>global, entrepreneurial, and knowledge-based economy will be those 
>>that have the most highly skilled and educated workforce."
>>   The Alliance for Excellent Education, Asia Society, Business 
>>Roundtable, Council of Chief State School Officers, ED in '08, and 
>>the National Governors Association joined to co-host a briefing on 
>>the PISA results to provide a unique opportunity for media, 
>>policymakers, educators, the business community, and other 
>>concerned citizens to join an important discussion focused on 
>>improving the performance of  U.S. students. Gene Wilhoit of the 
>>Council of Chief State School Officers explains that "The release 
>>of the 2006 PISA results is an important and worthwhile event. It 
>>provides all of us a unique opportunity to benchmark student 
>>learning in the United States with that of emerging and high 
>>performing countries, to learn from the progress of other nations, 
>>and to renew our commitment and search for ways to improve 
>>educational opportunity for all of our students."
>  >  Even the highest achieving U.S. students on the 2006 assessment 
>were either at or below the OECD average. Nine percent of students 
>in the U.S. tested in the top two levels of achievement in science 
>(the OECD average) and almost 8 percent were at those levels in math 
>(below the OECD average of over 13 percent). These higher achievers 
>are the most likely candidates to pursue careers in the fields of 
>science or mathematics.
>>   However, almost a quarter of the U.S. students tested 
>>demonstrated very low proficiency in science, and 28 percent scored 
>>at below the minimum math level for citizens' to be able to 
>>participate fully in society and the labor market. In both 
>>subjects, the  U.S. has a far greater percentage of students at 
>>these very low proficiency levels than is the average for OECD 
>>member countries as a whole.
>>   Business Roundtable President John J. Castellani, learning of the 
>>numbers of students in the lowest performance levels, and noting 
>>that about two-thirds of students in this country fall into the 
>>middle rankings in science and math, questions the lack of outrage 
>>that accompanies these test results: "It is difficult to understand 
>>why mediocre achievement by  U.S. teenagers on international math 
>>and science assessments produces less concern and outcry than 
>>mediocre performance by a football or basketball team. There is 
>>worldwide competition for people with strong backgrounds in math 
>>and science who have the analytic and problem-solving skills needed 
>>to create tomorrow's innovations. We need to take a serious look at 
>>what the  U.S. can learn from the education systems that routinely 
>>pass us by."
>>   PISA is administered triennially to 15-year-olds in participating 
>>countries and economies through OECD, and it relies on the leading 
>>experts in participating countries to develop valid comparisons 
>>across countries and cultures. In 2006, 57 countries, making up 
>>close to 90 percent of the world economy, participated in the 
>>assessment. Many of those countries, although not the  U.S., 
>>implement PISA both at national and state or regional levels, to 
>>provide more information to policymakers that will assist them in 
>>making better-informed decisions about ways to improve student 
>>achievement.
>>   Roy Romer, former governor of Colorado and superintendent of the 
>>Los Angeles Unified School District, now chairman of ED in '08, 
>>knows the importance of high-level leadership to improving the 
>>educational outcomes for students. "These results reaffirm that 
>>America's education system is in crisis and that there are lasting 
>>implications for our children, who are unprepared to enter an 
>>increasingly competitive global marketplace," he says. "They 
>>underscore the need for the presidential candidates to show bold 
>>leadership, free from ideological constraints and the influence of 
>>special interests, to bring America out of this crisis back to a 
>>level competitive with top-performing countries."
>>   Former governor and congressman from West Virginia, Bob Wise, 
>>looks to policymakers and the public for many of the changes that 
>>must be made if America is to maintain its strong global and 
>>economic position. "The message from this international report for 
>>the  U.S. Congress and every state official is that much of the 
>>world is improving education much faster than we are. Being 
>>internationally mediocre in the Olympics means only a loss of 
>>national pride; mediocre in PISA forecasts a loss of skilled jobs 
>>for  U.S. citizens. These results should arouse the public and all 
>>elected leaders to learn PISA's lessons ? all students must be 
>>given a true world class education where they graduate from high 
>>school truly prepared for college or the modern workplace. The 
>>current congressional deliberations about renewing No Child Left 
>>Behind must be the first ? but not last ? step to improve these 
>>international rankings."
>>
>>---------------------------------
>>    The Council of Chief State School Officers (CCSSO) is a 
>>nationwide, nonprofit organization of public officials who head 
>>departments of elementary and secondary education in the states, 
>>the District of Columbia, the Department of Defense Education 
>>Activity, and five  U.S. extra-state jurisdictions. CCSSO provides 
>>leadership, advocacy, and technical assistance on major educational 
>>issues. The Council seeks members' consensus on major educational 
>>issues and expresses their views to civic and professional 
>>organizations, federal agencies, Congress, and the public.
>  >  The Alliance for Excellent Education is a national policy and 
>advocacy organization that works to make every child a high school 
>graduate - to prepare them for college, work, and to be contributing 
>members of society. Founded in 2001, the Alliance focuses on 
>America's six million most at-risk secondary school students - those 
>in the lowest achievement quartile - who are most likely to leave 
>school without a diploma or to graduate unprepared for a productive 
>future.
>>   The Asia Society is the leading global organization working to 
>>strengthen relationships and promote understanding among the 
>>people, leaders, and institutions of Asia and the United States. We 
>>seek to enhance dialogue, encourage creative expression, and 
>>generate new ideas across the fields of policy, business, 
>>education, arts, and culture.
>>   The Business Roundtable is committed to advocating public 
>>policies that ensure vigorous economic growth, a dynamic global 
>>economy, and the well-trained and productive  U.S. workforce 
>>essential for future competitiveness. Business Roundtable believes 
>>that its potential for effectiveness is based on the fact that it 
>>draws on CEOs directly and personally, and presents government with 
>>reasoned alternatives and positive suggestions.
>>   The National Governors Association (NGA) is the collective voice 
>>of the nation's governors and one of Washington,  D.C.'s, most 
>>respected public policy organizations. NGA provides governors and 
>>their senior staff members with services that range from 
>>representing states on Capitol Hill and before the Administration 
>>on key federal issues to developing policy reports on innovative 
>>state programs and hosting networking seminars for state government 
>>executive branch officials.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
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>>
>>Washington D.C.
>>
>>1-202-215-4328 [Cell]
>>
>>Ed.M. - International Education Policy
>>Harvard Graduate School of Education,
>>Harvard University,
>>Class of 2005
>>
>>http://www.uknow.gse.harvard.edu/index.html (Edu info)
>>
>>http://hbswk.hbs.edu/ (Management Info)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>www.gse.harvard.edu/iep  (where the above 2 are used )
>>http://harvardscience.harvard.edu/
>>
>>
>>
>>http://jaipurschool.bihu.in/
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